What Naruto lacks

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is Physical agility, swordsmanship, and base speed as far as I can tell.

and the advantage of having an eye that read moves, see, copy and react in superspeed.

not having the eye is understandable, thats sasukes advantage - naruto has kyuubi, However I wish Naruto had more agility in base mode, experience in using swords and impressive speed. (gai or lee coulve probably helped him with that)

if he had that, I think no one could belittle him, not even sasukefappers, infact I think this is one of the reasons there are so many sasuke fans, it makes naruto look just a tad lame in his base.

Before you start bashing, i think you should read my other posts, I dislike sasuke and his overfappers, ive always wanted Naruto to prevail. However this issue needed to be adressed truthfully and perhaps hear different takes on it!

Another point is, Im hoping Naruto has Honed those baser Skills by now, would love to see him put up a good fight in base mode. But I think kishi is a lil bish when it comes to that
 

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Have you not seen The Last? I'm guessing you didn't
 

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His base speed kept up with Rinnegan Sasuke.
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He also managed to counter a point-plank Chidori from Sasuke too.
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His base speed kept up with Rinnegan Sasuke.
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He also managed to counter a point-plank Chidori from Sasuke too.
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i dont think that was base speed tho?

he still had rikudou chakra in him no?.
 

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He fought in base against Sasuke and held his own. I think he's pretty decent in base and can hang with the best of them using clone feints and rasengan.
 

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His base speed kept up with Rinnegan Sasuke.
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He also managed to counter a point-plank Chidori from Sasuke too.
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lol. Sasuke got from the top of madara's statue to hashirama's statue in the same time naruto used to jump that distance from the ground in the mangascan. the chidori proves nothing. Sasuke wasted time there really.
 

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Actually Naruto can easily fight Sharingan users in his base form because his athletic ability gives him the edge in taijutsu. Sasuke had his Rinnegan and Sharingan activated yet Naruto reacted with no problem

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He fought in base against Sasuke and held his own. I think he's pretty decent in base and can hang with the best of them using clone feints and rasengan.
problem is, Ive never seen him fight in base mode, and someone say Wow" that guy is pretty fast - thats the bummer, as the main character i think that would make him look cooler!
 

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I think Naruto is pretty good. We have seen many kenjutsu users and its better if Naruto isnt one of them. His speed is pretty decent.
 

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problem is, Ive never seen him fight in base mode, and someone say Wow" that guy is pretty fast - thats the bummer, as the main character i think that would make him look cooler!

Naruto went RSM before Sasuke did anything fancy.

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I think Naruto is pretty good. We have seen many kenjutsu users and its better if Naruto isnt one of them. His speed is pretty decent.

I just think, kishi coulve expanded on that a little

example, it wouldve been nice if we saw him train with Bee in kenjutsu, and open up the first gate "like kakashi" after training with gai a bit etc.. that would tell us his a real badass in base too
 

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problem is, Ive never seen him fight in base mode, and someone say Wow" that guy is pretty fast - thats the bummer, as the main character i think that would make him look cooler!

He was brought to base against Sasuke at vote2. sasuke had sharingan and naruto kept up with him and he even countered him mid chidori when sasukes eye power weakened for just a second. The fact that he can got toe to toe with a shanrigan user speaks volumes about his base abilities imho.
 

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I just think, kishi coulve expanded on that a little

example, it wouldve been nice if we saw him train with Bee in kenjutsu, and open up the first gate "like kakashi" after training with gai a bit etc.. that would tell us his a real badass in base too

I guess Kishi didn't want Naruto to be good with everything just because he's the MC. Even then, I cannot imagine him fighting with a sword.
 

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He was brought to base against Sasuke at vote2. sasuke had sharingan and naruto kept up with him and he even countered him mid chidori when sasukes eye power weakened for just a second. The fact that he can got toe to toe with a shanrigan user speaks volumes about his base abilities imho.

yeah, all true but...still it has not been presented nor proclaimed properly by kishi, like i said, going toe to toe is different than actually displaying impressive speed in base, we can assume it means naruto is as fast, but it would still remain an assumption imo until it has been remarked as such, because we do not know if sasuke at moment was focused on speed or power.

guess im just longing for a remark on it in the manga
 

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And the lack of this thread is Salt.
 

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He was brought to base against Sasuke at vote2. sasuke had sharingan and naruto kept up with him and he even countered him mid chidori when sasukes eye power weakened for just a second. The fact that he can got toe to toe with a shanrigan user speaks volumes about his base abilities imho.

Lol. Sasuke's left eye was closed and Naruto was using clones. Sasuke had a huge blind spot. So of course naruto keeping up with him was easy.
 

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Naruto seriously needs to be more efficient with his clones but I disagree with what you said.
 

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I think the only thing Naruto needs is to stop being so boring and cliche and do at least something interesing or unexpected, for once
 
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