What mangekyou techniques would you have given Izuna and Indra

[SkyGodHorus]

This is more or less a branch thread from my mangekyou technique theory thread where I hypothesized that mangekyou techniques reflect the hearts or souls of their wielders, somewhat like zanpakutos. Not much is known about these two characters, but I still can't seem to stop thinking about them, especially being that they were prime candidates for Tobi''s identity.

Indra is the deva king in hinduism that uses a vajra that shoots lightning bolts, which Sasuke's final susano'o used and which was named after Indra, so perhaps he would have the lightning equivalent to Amaterasu as his technique. Some sort of blinding, very hot plasma attack that disintegrated and or melted everything around it down. He having the mangekyou techniques would sound too overpowered to me lols and I believe they were exclusive to the ones who unlocked them. Spirals in Hindi beliefs represent cosmic awareness, cosmic power and life.

I have no idea for Izuna lols other than maybe some super magnetic release attack where summons and shoots microscopic blades from his eyes at super speeds, which could also further explain why Tobirama invented FTG to exceed the technique. I based this off his mangekyou somewhat resembling straight blades to me. Another idea would be he having either some form of telekinesis or an invisible, hypersonic wind technique that could cut skin like blades. I for get his name, but the shinto god of wind was never made into a mangekyou tech lols.

 

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Indra arrow


OT : sane as madara

Susano and genjutsu

 

[FemmeFatale]

I think izunas would be similar to Madara's, brothers seems to have the same ability...or they fall under the same category.
Is there much on izuna character, all he was is humble.
Maybe it was limbo. Izuna seemed to have the willpower to protect his clan.

Indra had Sasukes technique.
Control.
From what I can gather about him, he demanded control and power

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Eye fart beam- Where a simple eye fart casts a explosion.

Eye sing dream- A eye song that puts your opponent to sleep.

 

[JustSomeRandomNinja]

Indra: Power of Solo

Izuna: Power of BEING solo'd

 

[ARGUS]

Indra most likely had every single MS power seeing how every single MS power basically originated from him,

as for Izuna, his power was probably susanoo, just like madaras

 

[SkyGodHorus]

I think izunas would be similar to Madara's, brothers seems to have the same ability...or they fall under the same category.
Is there much on izuna character, all he was is humble.
Maybe it was limbo. Izuna seemed to have the willpower to protect his clan.

Tobirama stated Sasuke's Kagutsuchi was not the first one he had seen.

Indra had Sasukes technique.
Control.
From what I can gather about him, he demanded control and power

Would make sense I suppose. However, Indra appeared to be very selfish and spoiled rotten. He fought all by himself and didn't seem to really care about the people unlike Ashura, Hagoromo or even Sasuke. Amaterasu and Kagutsuchi to me represent Sasuke's anger and the want for revenge towards Konoha and the world because of Itachi.

 

[Tyris]

His power was a senju slash.. no feats other than death and allowing Madara to kill or put everyone in their place for a time

 

[Angelic.]

the power of being 1 dimesional and boring

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Indra arrow

OT : sane as madara

Susano and genjutsu

Indra's arrow is a susano'o tech and I believe all mangekyou's have exclusive techs, including Madara's.

Indra most likely had every single MS power seeing how every single MS power basically originated from him,

Possibly, though I don't think that's enough of a basis. It contradicts the techniques being exclusive and representing the characters and it would be well...oped lols. I doubt Ashura would have been able to defeat him then.

as for Izuna, his power was probably susanoo, just like madaras

Susano'o was never confirmed to be Madara's only mangekyou technique I believe Limbo was it, or that at least he created it with the Rinnegan by combing his mangekyou techniques.

 

[ARGUS]

Possibly, though I don't think that's enough of a basis. It contradicts the techniques being exclusive and representing the characters and it would be well...oped lols. I doubt Ashura would have been able to defeat him then.

Why not?
ashura had an avatar that had 6 TSB, and he most likely had RSM, the same mode which enabled naruto to blitz kaguya off,
and indra was stated to be the ancestor of all uchiha, and the first MS user ever in the manga,
it only makes sense for him to have all the MS techniques, the same reason why the sage was stated to have all the rinnegan jutsus
it only makes sense for the son of the Sage of the Six Paths to be really powerful,

Susano'o was never confirmed to be Madara's only mangekyou technique I believe Limbo was it, or that at least he created it with the Rinnegan by combing his mangekyou techniques.

Limbo has got nothing to do with the MS at all, when would people understand this
its a rinnegan jutsu, and a rinnegan only jutsu

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Why not?
ashura had an avatar that had 6 TSB, and he most likely had RSM, the same mode which enabled naruto to blitz kaguya off,
and indra was stated to be the ancestor of all uchiha, and the first MS user ever in the manga,
it only makes sense for him to have all the MS techniques, the same reason why the sage was stated to have all the rinnegan jutsus
it only makes sense for the son of the Sage of the Six Paths to be really powerful,

I believe Kamui and KA together sounds a bit too overpowered and that Ashura wouldn't be able to defeat them. Kamui outsped and defeated Madara and Kaguya, Ashura I doubt had any dimensional techs of his own, and KA is supposed to be activated without you knowing it, even if you have something like senjutsu or a bijuu to disrupt it.

Limbo has got nothing to do with the MS at all, when would people understand this
its a rinnegan jutsu, and a rinnegan only jutsu

There's no basis for that, and there's a huge basis that it could be. It doesn't even state in the databook that it's exclusive to the Rinnegan. But I'm not arguing that here lols because it will be off-topic and I've done it a dozen times. Check my thread out for it if you like.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

I suppose Izuna should have had some kind of Genjutsu, like Tsukiyomi but weaker.

As for Indra, the ability to self destruct would be great.

 

[Lariatoo]

I belueve Izuna had a weaker form o Enron, seeing as him and Madara were one of the few know MS users of the time and both Madara and Tobirama recognized the technique when Sasuke used it.
Infra probably had them all.

 

[FubukiShirou]

I'm really interested in this because, Izuna had a great character design but he had no screen time in the anime or manga sadly... But I think he had enton and probably some other jutsu.

 

[ARGUS]

I believe Kamui and KA together sounds a bit too overpowered and that Ashura wouldn't be able to defeat them.

I highly doubt it, Kamui is not doing shit, to someone with RSM,
as for KA, it still requires a usage of chakra, something whichh ashura should be able to sense, in order to counter

Kamui outsped and defeated Madara and Kaguya, Ashura I doubt had any dimensional techs of his own, and KA is supposed to be activated without you knowing it, even if you have something like senjutsu or a bijuu to disrupt it.

Lets not get retarded shall we,

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in what way did kamui outspeed, let alone defeat madara? when madara shat on FTG, something thats even faster than Kamui

as for Kaguya, thats even more of a joke,

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, something which shits on the speed of kamui and FTG,

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yet despite of all this

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thus concluding that Ashura (who weilds RSM) shits on kamui with utmost ease,

There's no basis for that, and there's a huge basis that it could be. It doesn't even state in the databook that it's exclusive to the Rinnegan. But I'm not arguing that here lols because it will be off-topic and I've done it a dozen times. Check my thread out for it if you like.

Umm, No,
Limbo is a rinnegann technique as stated by madara himself,
and when only the rinnegan can be used to see the limbo clones themselves,

the jutsu has nothing to do with the sharingan at all

 

[Ansatsuken]

Indra, I will give him lightning related eye power

Izuna, I will give him time control related eye power

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Regarding Indra, I like the idea of him having every mangekyo technique since he's the original user... If not then I assume he was better at ninjutsu than genjutsu since he is meant to represent destruction and chaos. Therefore I would have to say PS with country-level lightning jutsu and forest sized fire techniques would be minimum requirements.

Asura = SM + yang release (healing) + mokouton/water/earth elements + avatar mode (w/ bijuu bombs) + chakra chains
vs.
Indra = All Mangekyo techniques + 5 elements and yin release (0 KKG) + PS with SM level ninjutsu (i.e : Indra arrow) ..

Damn Kishi, such a fight would be a dream to watch on anime... :Omg:

 

[ARGUS]

Yeah, like I give a **** what "you doubt."

Butthurt level over 9000

Validate it. It outsped Madara three time. First when Kakashi and Obito used it on him and, then when it teleported Minato, then when Black Zetsu used it on Madara.

Did you even read my post?, i gave several scans to back up my claim, meaning that its a fact
whereas you just ignore them, and blabber on the same BS over and over again,
and please dont bring out mere statements, show me manga scans, not just ur opinion,

Okay, then don't get retarded KIFFLOM.

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Uh, that image is outright proof that it outspeeds the gudou damas

Again, you didnt read my post, and state the same BS over and over again,
I clearly said that madaras TSB speed is comparable to double kamui, i never said its faster,

LMFAO! He never stated such a thing. A claim is not a feat and that statement can be taken in different contexts. He said I shouldn't while he has the Rinnegan and that was probably because Obito would have SEEN IT lols being that he you know not only has the Rinnegan like Sasuke, but one of Madara's.

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again, you dont read, and just ignore the scans that i have provided, and instead just bring ur own fanfic without any proof at all, smh

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I am pretty sure that madara himself knows of his own abilities more than you do,
and I am sure as hell that kishi clearly stated that in the manga to make the reader beleve that Limbo is faster,
one only needs common sense to grasp this knowledge, something which you seem to lack

Double Kamui is faster than FTG.

Since when has Kamui warping been instant?,
because as far as that is concerned, FTG is, and kamui isnt, meaning that FTG is faster,

Yeah, when Madara had one eye lols. Obito and Kakashi outsped Kaguya with double Kamui twice.

Prove it, because they clearly didnt,
unless you think that amenominaka is slower than sasukes S/T or Limbo, Lol

There's no basis because there's no proof that Ashura even used bijuus.

Did i ever say that ashura had the bijuus? No i didnt,
so i dont see where ur bringing this from

Madara never stated such a thing. You made it up, and the fact that you can't link anything for it even further support that lols.

Madara himself states before using Limbo, that

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and then outright

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furthermore the Databook itself states that Limbo is a rinnegan jutsu,what more proof do you want?
logic mate, just use it,

MS uses Izanagi and Izanami, variants of creation of all things and Itachi's weapons are spirit items. How exactly is this proof lols? Just because only a Rinnegan can see it, doesn't mean it's a Rinnegan technique.

Not an argument, nor does it prove anything at all,

Validate it.

I just did, i suggest you to read before u keep repeating the same thing over and over again

And you need lessons in courtesy, punkass.

Look at what ur saying because its clearly you whose losing it,

If someone is remaining objective and polite with you, you don't call them retarded and patronize them.

In what world did you remain objective?, becuase im the one proving the scans, and im the one providing logical information, you on the other are just butthurt because my opinion is different from urs and then you resort to insulting me, yet accuse me of doing so, Lol
I think you should have a good cry, before giving me life lessons on how to use post on a mere internet site, either accept it, or just dont spout the same BS over and over again, or best of all, just dont bother

That was uncalled for. And as I stated THIS IS NOT THE ****ING COLLOSEUM lols.

What is that supposed to mean exactly? its Naruto Discussion, im discussing the manga, and ur crying over me having an opinion different from yours,

This is my thread about what techniques would fit Izuna and Indra in the discussion section lols, not what technique of already established characters is faster.

Yet you state that kamui is faster and too much for a demi god like ashura, and i also prove you why its not,
and i prove on why it wont play much of a factor to ashura who is most likely an RSM user,

Your arguments are filled with generalizations, fallacies, misinterpretations, bias, narcissism, and god knows what else,

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Says that my arguments are filled with fallacies and misinterpretations, when i prove more than enough scans and a logical analysis, to prove my point
yet ur angry and crying just because ur beloved kamui is not that powerful as you and many other tards claim it to be

but that's okay seeing as kids can't control the shitty environments they are brought up in, which I can vouch for, but if you insult me again, I'm headed for the mods.

Lol, go to the mods, i dont give a shit,
because the only thing that will happen is them telling you to cry somewhere else
and Lol you dont know anything about me, yet ur going personal and trying to insult where i am brought up, Lol
and then you threaten me, not to insult you, when its clearly the other way around ahah

Enjoy and learn from your negative rep and my debunking.

Your puny negs dont hurt, nor do i give a damn about receiving a mere neg on an internet forum
and you claiming that you have debunked my post is just laughable
and i have brought this post back in this thread because this is where it belongs, not some PM, where you insult me
i suggest you to either take it like a man, or dont bother with the forums just when someone proves you wrong,