What kid of boost did sasuke get from hashi cells

[Opiuchus05]

when danzo implanted hashi' cells it upped his physical energy and he was able to use kotoamtsukami, a technique that can be used only every 10 years,twice a day

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now sasuke has hashirama's cells

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viz called it much-tinkered hashirama cells

Kabuto: "That's right, with my medical ninjutsu and much-tinkered Hashirama cells...
...Plus a certain someone's suggestion...
I just managed to stop him from dying."

did it up his physical energy?and what could have tinkered hashi cells do?

 

[Gagster]

He got to live, what more do you want?

 

[Opiuchus05]

He got to live, what more do you want?

i want to know if his physical energies were boosted by hashi's cells and if it enhances any of his techniques like danzo

 

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This is his power-up

 

[ANiMUS]

He can handle the rinnengan for one. It most likely did increase his physical energy as well, and therefore gave hin a big boost in chakra

 

[Opiuchus05]

He can handle the rinnengan for one. It most likely did increase his physical energy as well, and therefore gave hin a big boost in chakra

ok makes sense
do you think hashi's chakra is still as strong as it was when he was ashura's successor considering what it does to kotoamatsukami?

does it have to be ashura's chakra to awaken rinnegan or chakra that's as strong as ashura

 

[Styles]

By Manga it should greatly enhance his physical energy/strength, Chakra reserves and give Mokuton. But we don't know what it did atm.

 

[ANiMUS]

ok makes sense
do you think hashi's chakra is still as strong as it was when he was ashura's successor considering what it does to kotoamatsukami?

does it have to be ashura's chakra to awaken rinnegan or chakra that's as strong as ashura

Yeah, it is pretty much the same, there isn't a reason for it to change. Though it is just a part.

 

[slayerdanger]

More chakra, more speed, more strength, higher durability, and shouldn't he be able to live without eating like Obito and Zetsu?

 

[xxSAGExx]

ok makes sense
do you think hashi's chakra is still as strong as it was when he was ashura's successor considering what it does to kotoamatsukami?

does it have to be ashura's chakra to awaken rinnegan or chakra that's as strong as ashura

Hashirama's chakra is his own, Ashura's power is more within like it's attached to a Hashirama's soul and moves on when Hashirama dies. Once he died he lost Ashura's chakra that was within him but his DNA consist of strong lifeforce for being a Senju. He also had the ability to heal, control Bijuus, and use wood jutsus. Only Madara got Hashirama's DNA when he had Ashura's chakra, now it's inside Naruto. Hashirama was able to cause the reaction that summoned Hagaromo when he touched Madara's lower half but Madara is the one who had Indra, Ashura, and Kurama's chakra.

As for the tinkering part, Hashirama was dead like 100 years ago so being able to use dead flesh to make living cells would be from much experimenting which Orochimaru did which resulted in Yamato with water down Hashirama abilities. Sasuke got a boost in stamina and in his jutsus like everyone else who had the cells did.

 

[Styles]

Hashirama's chakra is his own, Ashura's power is more within like it's attached to a Hashirama's soul and moves on when Hashirama dies. Once he died he lost Ashura's chakra that was within him but his DNA consist of strong lifeforce for being a Senju. He also had the ability to heal, control Bijuus, and use wood jutsus. Only Madara got Hashirama's DNA when he had Ashura's chakra, now it's inside Naruto. Hashirama was able to cause the reaction that summoned Hagaromo when he touched Madara's lower half but Madara is the one who had Indra, Ashura, and Kurama's chakra.

As for the tinkering part, Hashirama was dead like 100 years ago so being able to use dead flesh to make living cells would be from much experimenting which Orochimaru did which resulted in Yamato with water down Hashirama abilities.Sasuke got a boost in stamina and in his jutsus like everyone else who had the cells did.

That's speculation, because when Madara implanted his DNA he never got Mokuton. It was the ''tinkered cells'' that Kabuto and Orochimaru did that gave it to him. The same cells Sasuke have & Yamato have.

 

[Opiuchus05]

Hashirama's chakra is his own, Ashura's power is more within like it's attached to a Hashirama's soul and moves on when Hashirama dies. Once he died he lost Ashura's chakra that was within him but his DNA consist of strong lifeforce for being a Senju. He also had the ability to heal, control Bijuus, and use wood jutsus. Only Madara got Hashirama's DNA when he had Ashura's chakra, now it's inside Naruto. Hashirama was able to cause the reaction that summoned Hagaromo when he touched Madara's lower half but Madara is the one who had Indra, Ashura, and Kurama's chakra.

As for the tinkering part, Hashirama was dead like 100 years ago so being able to use dead flesh to make living cells would be from much experimenting which Orochimaru did which resulted in Yamato with water down Hashirama abilities. Sasuke got a boost in stamina and in his jutsus like everyone else who had the cells did.

then why does edo hashirama seem as strong as he was when he was ashura's reincarnation minus the fact he wasnt brought back full power
he even stated that naruto and kurama combined had as much chakra as him and naruto resembles ashura's avatar with kurama's power

 

[xxSAGExx]

That's speculation, because when Madara implanted his DNA he never got Mokuton. It was the ''tinkered cells'' that Kabuto and Orochimaru did that gave it to him. The same cells Sasuke have & Yamato have.

What makes you think that? It could have easily be his Rinnegan which has been stated to allow him to use all elements and use any jutsu (was said about Nagato but same applies to Madara and Obito used that power as well). Plus Orochimaru had to do a lot of experimenting just to replicate Hashirama's wood jutsus into Yamato and he didn't even know if the child lived until he seen Yamato. He made Danzo's arm be infused with Hashirama's DNA but Danzo didn't actively use wood jutsus, a tree grew when Danzo lost control of his chakra is all. Plus Orochimaru never tried it with fresh Hashirama cells nor with an Uchiha body plus add the fact that Madara was adding Indra and Ashura's chakra which gave him Sage chakra.

Madara cultivated Hashirama's cells which allowed him to make white Zetsus without any human sacrifice and these Zetsus were using wood jutsus so it's safe to assume Madara could do it by having it inter grated into him as well. Plus Madara knew the wood jutsus hand seal and could use them as good as Hashirama so it make more sense that he got it before hand and copied Hashirama's hand signs knowing that he would get the Rinnegan because he had no reaso to try and copy it prior to knowing about the Rinnegan.

 

[xxSAGExx]

then why does edo hashirama seem as strong as he was when he was ashura's reincarnation minus the fact he wasnt brought back full power
he even stated that naruto and kurama combined had as much chakra as him and naruto resembles ashura's avatar with kurama's power

Hashirama is Hashirama, he is strong because he trained to get strong. Losing Ashura wouldn't make him weaker, Naruto said himself that he's not Ashura and Sasuke isn't Indra. Just because they are their reincarnations doesn't mean they are them or have their power, they are only similar to them. Naruto and Kurama combined didn't have as much chakra as Hashirama, Naruto and Minato both gave the Alliance chakra comparable to the volume of Hashirama's. Kurama have much more chakra than Hashirama does as his chakra was said to be near limitless and this is half Kurama.

All Edo's weren't brought back at full power. Hashirama, Tobirama, and Madara all lived in a time of constant war, they grew up in battles unlike the later generations who might have 1 or 2 wars in their life time (the wars spread apart by many years. Madara was killing grown adults before he even got his Sharingan, this shows how strong ninjas of Madara's time were compared to later generations who mostly grew in time of peace. Hashirama has been fighting from childhood to adulthood and that's why he is strong. Also Edo Madara was actually much stronger, Kishi just doesn't let Madara use his full power. Madara can absorb ninjutsus, pull Hashirama to himself with Deva path and pull out his soul but he was playing most if the time then nerfed when he became the Juubi Jin.

Look at Naruto, he's 17, his base is Jounin level and he's the current Ashura reincarnation, Hashirama's base is above Kage level by like 2 levels and he was fighting Madara PS which made the 5 Kages wet themselves. It's all about their era, Hashirama grew up in combat so he's stronger than Naruto who just not enter war.

 

[Opiuchus05]

Hashirama is Hashirama, he is strong because he trained to get strong. Losing Ashura wouldn't make him weaker, Naruto said himself that he's not Ashura and Sasuke isn't Indra. Just because they are their reincarnations doesn't mean they are them or have their power, they are only similar to them. Naruto and Kurama combined didn't have as much chakra as Hashirama, Naruto and Minato both gave the Alliance chakra comparable to the volume of Hashirama's. Kurama have much more chakra than Hashirama does as his chakra was said to be near limitless and this is half Kurama.

All Edo's weren't brought back at full power. Hashirama, Tobirama, and Madara all lived in a time of constant war, they grew up in battles unlike the later generations who might have 1 or 2 wars in their life time (the wars spread apart by many years. Madara was killing grown adults before he even got his Sharingan, this shows how strong ninjas of Madara's time were compared to later generations who mostly grew in time of peace. Hashirama has been fighting from childhood to adulthood and that's why he is strong. Also Edo Madara was actually much stronger, Kishi just doesn't let Madara use his full power. Madara can absorb ninjutsus, pull Hashirama to himself with Deva path and pull out his soul but he was playing most if the time then nerfed when he became the Juubi Jin.

Look at Naruto, he's 17, his base is Jounin level and he's the current Ashura reincarnation, Hashirama's base is above Kage level by like 2 levels and he was fighting Madara PS which made the 5 Kages wet themselves. It's all about their era, Hashirama grew up in combat so he's stronger than Naruto who just not enter war.

so does hashi have ashura's chakra because he's his reincarnation or because he trained to get to that level
the peak of a senju's power is ashura

does madara and sasuke have ems because of being indra's reincarnation or because them both being the only uchihas give them the same chakra as indra

 

[xxSAGExx]

so does hashi have ashura's chakra because he's his reincarnation or because he trained to get to that level
the peak of a senju's power is ashura

does madara and sasuke have ems because of being indra's reincarnation or because them both being the only uchihas give them the same chakra as indra

Hasirama is Ashura's reincarnation but that does t reflect his power as he trained to get that strong and Ashura's chakra didn't bloom until hard work and with the help if those he cared for while Hashirama was always stronger than Madara. Being the reincarnation more gives them their potential but they have to actually achieve that potential. Sasuke and Madara have EMS because they took their brothers eyes, Madara got the Rinnegan by having both Ashura and Indra's chakra while Sasuke have his Rinnegan from Hagaromo giving him his Yin chakra since Sasuke never got Naruto's DNA. Hagaromo said Naruto has Ashura chakra because he's the latest reincarnation, Hashirama died and Ashura moved on so Hashirama can't have Ashura's chakra.

 

[lucario14]

I think it just healed him and restored his vitality, the same way jugo's body healed and restored his vitality after B blew his chest out. He didn't gain ashura's chakra so no mokuton, no enhanced physical strength no enhanced stamina, no rinnegan (I think he awoke it through another way) etc.

His power boost can be directly attributed to receiving the sage's chakra, nothing else.

 

[Opiuchus05]

Hasirama is Ashura's reincarnation but that does t reflect his power as he trained to get that strong and Ashura's chakra didn't bloom until hard work and with the help if those he cared for while Hashirama was always stronger than Madara. Being the reincarnation more gives them their potential but they have to actually achieve that potential. Sasuke and Madara have EMS because they took their brothers eyes, Madara got the Rinnegan by having both Ashura and Indra's chakra while Sasuke have his Rinnegan from Hagaromo giving him his Yin chakra since Sasuke never got Naruto's DNA. Hagaromo said Naruto has Ashura chakra because he's the latest reincarnation, Hashirama died and Ashura moved on so Hashirama can't have Ashura's chakra.

Is narutos sole DNA even potent enough for sasuke to get rinnegan
He only has the same power as ashura once he gains kuramas chakra
And you awaken rinnegan by getting both ashuras chakra(yang) indras chakra (yin) how does getting more yin chakra awaken rinnegan
Maybe hago didn't give sasuke rinnegan but just the seal

 

[salamander uchiha]

What hashi cells is there proof he actually recieved hashi cells or is it speculation

 

[Styles]

What makes you think that? It could have easily be his Rinnegan which has been stated to allow him to use all elements and use any jutsu (was said about Nagato but same applies to Madara and Obito used that power as well). Plus Orochimaru had to do a lot of experimenting just to replicate Hashirama's wood jutsus into Yamato and he didn't even know if the child lived until he seen Yamato. He made Danzo's arm be infused with Hashirama's DNA but Danzo didn't actively use wood jutsus, a tree grew when Danzo lost control of his chakra is all. Plus Orochimaru never tried it with fresh Hashirama cells nor with an Uchiha body plus add the fact that Madara was adding Indra and Ashura's chakra which gave him Sage chakra.

Madara cultivated Hashirama's cells which allowed him to make white Zetsus without any human sacrifice and these Zetsus were using wood jutsus so it's safe to assume Madara could do it by having it inter grated into him as well. Plus Madara knew the wood jutsus hand seal and could use them as good as Hashirama so it make more sense that he got it before hand and copied Hashirama's hand signs knowing that he would get the Rinnegan because he had no reaso to try and copy it prior to knowing about the Rinnegan.

Obito used Mokuton when Hashi was dead and he didn't have Rinnegan so how could he use it? Zetsu's are made from the Mazo not his DNA. Hashi's DNA was only in his arm which made his left/right eye stronger and lower the CD of KA and longer Izanagi. Hashirama's DNA is what gave Madara Mokuton because of Orochimaru/Kabuto and Orochimaru gave Hashi's DNA to Yamato he know Mokuton too. all this points to you being wrong.