What Itachi and Kisame said?

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But they were way too nonchalant about it. They casually just knocked on Narutos door taking there sweet ol time like it was some kind of joke. I'm sure Itachi would of known when Jman broke the genjtsu he placed on that woman. It was Itachi's decision to retreat both times even when Kisame wanted to keep on going and fight it out. And if he REALLY wanted to capture Naruto like you said he does, don't you think he would of went all out despite the consequences of using his MS.

Everything leads to the fact that Itachi's true intentions were not to catch Naruto.
Also, it was confirmed that despite joining the Akatsuki and doing what he did, his real loyalty remained to the Leaf Village, it just adds on to to the fact that Itachi didn't want to capture Naruto in the first place.


Maybe but maybe not. It could have been his way of still waiting for sasuke to get stronger he wanted to die at the hands of his brother only to put things to rest. Not die a meaningless death at the hands of jiraiya he wanted it to mean something.
 

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When did I mention oro I did not at one point he has nothing to do with this use some logic buddy

listen bro you i will talk with rationally as i dont think you are a joke like this other kid so let me start from the begining

this is about if itachi really wanted to get naruto: the answer is no and ill explain why ( this is where oro comes in )

itachi was attacked from behind...if you go watch the video you can see the quick shock on his face as he wasnt expecting this....after being attacked from behind and not even facing him ( which oro intended because he knew if itachi looked at hm it was over) itachi then proceeded to beat oro ( the strongest sanin) in 5 second and cut his arm off didnt even put any effort in

no vs jman to get naruto

he went there and jman didnt know he was comming....and he had kisame on top of himself there now if itachi wanted to beat jman in this situation he could have quickly and quietly just like he did to oro who had way more knowledge of itachi because he knew he wanted itachi sharigan so he would have made a plan (which failed)


so if he can take out oro in five second while jumped and alone....he can def get jman when he is facing him and has kisame

so in the end itachi didnt wanna take naruto or he would have
 

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oh ya he wanted ppl dead eh....why is kakashi still alive surely you dont think kakashi cant be killed by itachi
i can't believe this,,i just don't believe that there is person can be this stupid!! unbelievable

who is talking about Kakasi!!he didn't want him died, he wanted to take him alive.
i just told you something happensed, so it is FACT!!! FACTTTTT
you know what is fact? you brainless!! so answer with facts, don't throw hypothetical situations!

Itachi TOLD KISAME GO KILL THESE TWO, so we can take Kakashi with us( kidnap him), so they can investigate how he knew about the akatsuki.

SO if Gai wasn't in time, Then Kisame would of killed both of them( he was about to ), and they would of kidnapped kakashi)
 

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Maybe but maybe not. It could have been his way of still waiting for sasuke to get stronger he wanted to die at the hands of his brother only to put things to rest. Not die a meaningless death at the hands of jiraiya he wanted it to mean something.

C'mon man...do you really believe Jiraiya > Itachi and Kisame? Please consider all of Itachi and Kisames abilities before answering.
I think it would be common sense that they are too much for Jman alone to handle.
And if you're reply is going to be the manga said so, then this right here contradicts it.
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i can't believe this,,i just don't believe that there is person can be this stupid!! unbelievable

who is talking about Kakasi!!he didn't want him died, he wanted to take him alive.
i just told you something happensed, so it is FACT!!! FACTTTTT
you know what is fact? you brainless!! so answer with facts, don't throw hypothetical situations!

Itachi TOLD KISAME GO KILL THESE TWO, so we can take Kakashi with us( kidnap him), so they can investigate how he knew about the akatsuki.

SO if Gai wasn't in time, Then Kisame would of killed both of them( he was about to ), and they would of kidnapped kakashi)

that is not what would have happened......itachi was always down for the leaf as stated many many times and everything itachi did was a lie....itachi s a mad liar so all the crap you bring is itachi games to stay a secret in the akasuki
 

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listen bro you i will talk with rationally as i dont think you are a joke like this other kid so let me start from the begining

this is about if itachi really wanted to get naruto: the answer is no and ill explain why ( this is where oro comes in )

itachi was attacked from behind...if you go watch the video you can see the quick shock on his face as he wasnt expecting this....after being attacked from behind and not even facing him ( which oro intended because he knew if itachi looked at hm it was over) itachi then proceeded to beat oro ( the strongest sanin) in 5 second and cut his arm off didnt even put any effort in

no vs jman to get naruto

he went there and jman didnt know he was comming....and he had kisame on top of himself there now if itachi wanted to beat jman in this situation he could have quickly and quietly just like he did to oro who had way more knowledge of itachi because he knew he wanted itachi sharigan so he would have made a plan (which failed)
so if he can take out oro in five second while jumped and alone....he can def get jman when he is facing him and has kisame so in the end itachi didnt wanna take naruto or he would have



Your still using wrong logic it has never been said who was the stronger of the sannin so throw the oro crap out the door it is useless data for jiraiya v.s Itachi the only data we have on jiraiya and Itachi was what Itachi stated. Real data! You can't compare other characters for your reasoning of why this person beats that person when that is not data saying well he can beat oro and oro could beat jiraiya. Oro has never truly beat jiraiya never. Or else jiraiya would have been dead already. I will leave the oro and jiraiya crap at this, jiraiya never stopped loving his friend he always wanted oro to come back. Never had jiraiya said he would kill oro, tsunade yes she had stated plenty of times she would.

Next go by actual fight data of jiraiya and Itachi, kisame did nothing he was told to pull back by Itachi actual data. Jiraiya used toad belly jutsu and Itachi cancelled it out. And kept running. Without ems Itachi would have a hard time killing jiraiya because jiraiya has an abundance of jutsu to wear down itachi's eyes to give jiraiya an advantage but my actual opinion on there fight is Both die Itachi would die because of sickness from the strain of his eyes, and jiraiya would die from over exerssion of his chakra.
 

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that is not what would have happened......itachi was always down for the leaf as stated many many times and everything itachi did was a lie....itachi s a mad liar so all the crap you bring is itachi games to stay a secret in the akasuki
HAHHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAA!!
man you really really living in your lil world with your bf Itachi.

you idiot, i am not asking you what you think of Itachi, i am telling you something happened, and it is TRUE, believe it or not

Kisame was heading toward Asumai and Kurai, with both of them have their eyes closed, and he was 1 second from killing them, and Gai stopped him IN THE MOVE, so KISAME was actually killing them.

this is not one of your hypothetical situations.
 

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Itachi even told Kisame to CUT OFF naruto's hands

Oh c'mon, you're making things up u_u KISAME said that he'll cut Naruto's legs and Itachi noticed Jiraiya's presence so he didn't have to do anything.
 

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C'mon man...do you really believe Jiraiya > Itachi and Kisame? Please consider all of Itachi and Kisames abilities before answering.
I think it would be common sense that they are too much for Jman alone to handle.
And if you're reply is going to be the manga said so, then this right here contradicts it.
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Hard to say dude I go by what is said in the anime/manga that is used a data material. But no I don't believe he could take them both but would have loved to see it. Also you forget the fact that if jiraiya uses sage mode then samehada is useless it would turn to stone. You have to sit there and look at all points of a battle.
 

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Oh c'mon, you're making things up u_u KISAME said that he'll cut Naruto's legs and Itachi noticed Jiraiya's presence so he didn't have to do anything.

Yes you are right, i guess i missed what happened exactly in that part, it was few years ago anyway.
yet i don't believe that he didn;t act because he sensed J-man, he was just not caring enough for what is going on.

and the incident with Asuma and Kurai( i am sure you know what i am referring to) is the best evidence for this.
 

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listen bro you i will talk with rationally as i dont think you are a joke like this other kid so let me start from the begining

this is about if itachi really wanted to get naruto: the answer is no and ill explain why ( this is where oro comes in )

itachi was attacked from behind...if you go watch the video you can see the quick shock on his face as he wasnt expecting this....after being attacked from behind and not even facing him ( which oro intended because he knew if itachi looked at hm it was over) itachi then proceeded to beat oro ( the strongest sanin) in 5 second and cut his arm off didnt even put any effort in

no vs jman to get naruto

he went there and jman didnt know he was comming....and he had kisame on top of himself there now if itachi wanted to beat jman in this situation he could have quickly and quietly just like he did to oro who had way more knowledge of itachi because he knew he wanted itachi sharigan so he would have made a plan (which failed)
so if he can take out oro in five second while jumped and alone....he can def get jman when he is facing him and has kisame so in the end itachi didnt wanna take naruto or he would have



Your still using wrong logic it has never been said who was the stronger of the sannin so throw the oro crap out the door it is useless data for jiraiya v.s Itachi the only data we have on jiraiya and Itachi was what Itachi stated. Real data! You can't compare other characters for your reasoning of why this person beats that person when that is not data saying well he can beat oro and oro could beat jiraiya. Oro has never truly beat jiraiya never. Or else jiraiya would have been dead already. I will leave the oro and jiraiya crap at this, jiraiya never stopped loving his friend he always wanted oro to come back. Never had jiraiya said he would kill oro, tsunade yes she had stated plenty of times she would.

Next go by actual fight data of jiraiya and Itachi, kisame did nothing he was told to pull back by Itachi actual data. Jiraiya used toad belly jutsu and Itachi cancelled it out. And kept running. Without ems Itachi would have a hard time killing jiraiya because jiraiya has an abundance of jutsu to wear down itachi's eyes to give jiraiya an advantage but my actual opinion on there fight is Both die Itachi would die because of sickness from the strain of his eyes, and jiraiya would die from over exerssion of his chakra.

HAHHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAA!!
man you really really living in your lil world with your bf Itachi.

you idiot, i am not asking you what you think of Itachi, i am telling you something happened, and it is TRUE, believe it or not

Kisame was heading toward Asumai and Kurai, with both of them have their eyes closed, and he was 1 second from killing them, and Gai stopped him IN THE MOVE, so KISAME was actually killing them.

this is not one of your hypothetical situation,

well its is clear you are both uneducated in the facts of naruto and im sure the views are laughing at you as we speak

itachi is the best and not even just the best but the best by far when it comes to genjutsu he can cast them with his eyes to his fingertips he even took the leafs best genjutsu specialist and made her look like a child

the fact that you think jman is immune to this or can even avoid it when no one else has ever been show to be able to is proof enough of your lack of ability to read a situation

Yes you are right, i guess i missed what happened exactly in that part, it was few years ago anyway.
yet i don't believe that he didn;t act because he sensed J-man, he was just not caring enough for what is going on.

and the incident with Asuma and Kurai( i am sure you know what i am referring to) is the best evidence for this.

awww did you miss what happened are you gonna flip back from he was serious to he half assed it now flip flopper
 
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well its is clear you are both uneducated in the facts of naruto and im sure the views are laughing at you as we speak

itachi is the best and not even just the best but the best by far when it comes to genjutsu he can cast them with his eyes to his fingertips

the fact that you think jman is immune to this or can even avoid it when no one else has ever been show to be able to is proof enough of your lack of ability to read a situation

That's your opinion that is not data come up with some proof bro show jiraiya getting his ass whooped by Itachi and I'll believe you.
 

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Hard to say dude I go by what is said in the anime/manga that is used a data material. But no I don't believe he could take them both but would have loved to see it. Also you forget the fact that if jiraiya uses sage mode then samehada is useless it would turn to stone. You have to sit there and look at all points of a battle.

I understand that. But in the manga page i just showed you, zetsu says hes invincible, meaning no one can stop him. Is that true? Most likely not, as we seen a few ninja with the ability to beat Itachi.
So again, that contradicts what Itachi initially said about not being able to take on Jman with out both them dying.

Lets not turn this into a Jiraiya vs. Itachi and Kisame thread though. My point was there is more evidence leading to believe Itachi never wanted to capture Naruto, otherwise he would have.
 

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That's your opinion that is not data come up with some proof bro show jiraiya getting his ass whooped by Itachi and I'll believe you.

YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN ALL THE PROOF YOU NEED......ORO AND JMAN WERE NOT FAR APART BOTH SANIN SO LETS SAY FOR ARGUMENT SAKE JMAN IS STRONGER THEN ORO

ITACHI FODDERIZED ORO BUT HE HAS NO CHANCE OF BEAT JMAN WITH A PARTNER AS POWERFUL AS HE IS A MAN WHO BEAT A PERFECT JIN BY HIMSELF AND CAM BACK UNHARMED

THAT IS PROOF JMAN CANT HANDLE THE DUO

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To be quite fair, i knew that Itachi Fanboys can be a lil bit irritating, but i never knew that they are mostly an idiots.

you tell a guy that Itachi told Kisame to kill two guys, and he was about to kidnapped kakashi, and what is the Answer?

ITACHI IS THE BEST, I WISH HE WAS REAL SO HE CAN SLEEP WITH ME EVERY NIGHT, ITACHI LOVES THE LEAF
 

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YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN ALL THE PROOF YOU NEED......ORO AND JMAN WERE NOT FAR APART BOTH SANIN SO LETS SAY FOR ARGUMENT SAKE JMAN IS STRONGER THEN ORO

ITACHI FODDERIZED ORO BUT HE HAS NO CHANCE OF BEAT JMAN WITH A PARTNER AS POWERFUL AS HE IS A MAN WHO BEAT A PERFECT JIN BY HIMSELF AND CAM BACK UNHARMED

THAT IS PROOF JMAN CANT HANDLE THE DUO

- sorry for the caps

Finally you got back OT yes I don't feel jiraiya would beat both of them at the same time and not once did I say oh he can beat both I said refer to what Itachi said. You guys need to chill when threads like these are made it is all endless debate of people's opinions.

I always go by this if the battle has never happened we have no proof of who wins we go by Our opinions all we have for proof is what Itachi has said.
 

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To be quite fair, i knew that Itachi Fanboys can be a lil bit irritating, but i never knew that they are mostly an idiots.

you tell a guy that Itachi told Kisame to kill two guys, and he was about to kidnapped kakashi, and what is the Answer?

ITACHI IS THE BEST, I WISH HE WAS REAL SO HE CAN SLEEP WITH ME EVERY NIGHT, ITACHI LOVES THE LEAF

Let's not take it there. I am an Itachi fanboy, but at the same time humble. I will admit when he is beaten.

I have been completely logical and stated nothing but facts. And i didn't fail to realize that you have stopped replying to me after i countered everything you said.
 

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To be quite fair, i knew that Itachi Fanboys can be a lil bit irritating, but i never knew that they are mostly an idiots.

you tell a guy that Itachi told Kisame to kill two guys, and he was about to kidnapped kakashi, and what is the Answer?

ITACHI IS THE BEST, I WISH HE WAS REAL SO HE CAN SLEEP WITH ME EVERY NIGHT, ITACHI LOVES THE LEAF

no one hers is being a fanboy.....you have been shut down at every turn and just cant accept your wrong maybe it pride maybe its cuz your childish who knows
 

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To be quite fair, i knew that Itachi Fanboys can be a lil bit irritating, but i never knew that they are mostly an idiots.

you tell a guy that Itachi told Kisame to kill two guys, and he was about to kidnapped kakashi, and what is the Answer?

ITACHI IS THE BEST, I WISH HE WAS REAL SO HE CAN SLEEP WITH ME EVERY NIGHT, ITACHI LOVES THE LEAF

Not needed dude don't let it get to you it's just a petty debate if they want to argue let them. It won't change anything.
 

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Let's not take it there. I am an Itachi fanboy, but at the same time humble. I will admit when he is beaten.

I have been completely logical and stated nothing but facts. And i didn't fail to realize that you have stopped replying to me after i countered everything you said.
well i guess i was lil bit busy with the other stupid guy(which i shouldn't), so i missed your answer, otherwise i would of replied, which i will do now. so apologies is due
 
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