What is point of 64 palms

[Sagebee]

No I agree that Himawari using 1 shot made existence of 64 palms pointless in a way.

Only in the context that she's so powerful that she doesn't need it

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

64 palms is sort of a failed and useless technique as it now is I think I may write to Kodachi so Hanabi Hime has our proposed more functional version. She'll be even more awesome compared to the rest. It can be her own exclusive jutsu she develops

Send me his e mail I am going abuse him with countless e mails until he finally gives up and make it happen.

BTW what you described sounds familiar I remember something similar in games .

 

[salamander uchiha]

Send me his e mail I am going abuse him with countless e mails until he finally gives up and make it happen.

BTW what you described sounds familiar I remember something similar in games .

Will do we need to make this happen.

I can't remember seeing it in games but even so it's an OP technique that would be worthy of being associated with Hanabi Hime.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

No I agree that Himawari using 1 shot made existence of 64 palms pointless in a way.

I agree with, maybe because its hard to hit center of the chakra network in middle of the battle while target is moving and probably because the vision isnt clear like with other tenketsu,since the chakra is covering the stomach tenketsu with a mass of the chakra.

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[Tauren Chieftain]

Only in the context that she's so powerful that she doesn't need it

Which makes 64 useless to her as I said.

 

[Sagebee]

Which makes 64 useless to her as I said.

Thanks for making it clear to the himawari haters

 

[Made in Heaven]

It is likely a technique to capture opponents alive. That, and from what Himawari and Hizashi both showed, a Gentle Fist user needs to hit the very center of the network in order to one-shot, which both only managed due to Naruto and Hiashi being off guard, so I would say that one hit is harder than 64 Palms.

 

[Ambivalence]

I love how despite any Hyuuga related offense/defense barely being relevant you find new ways to make up stuff and wank. Literally only two of those examples were an actual battle scenario, and only one of them was an enemy one rank above Genin. :lol

Let me know when that worthless move works on an opponent above Chuunin and it's not for comic relief.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Why bothering learning something hard to perform and why hitting opponent with 64 strikes when 1 shot to vitals like heart can be equally effective.

Hizashi using one shot on Hiashi :

That was more of a surprise Hit like those you see in other anime or when someone hits someone else in the back of the neck

Half dead Neji who said he was low on chakra and yet still managed to damage Kidomaru organs

Chakra made web thread was used against him by Neji, were Neji his lethal Hyuga chakra to act like a poison

usually an opponent doesn't do things like that beyond maybe puppeteers

Himawari needed only 1 shot to knock out Naruto for entire day

Himawari, enough said

One blow to the heart from Neji almost killed Hinata

yup GF apparently can damage inner organs with just a graze

We see how Might Gai said deciding blow to heart and Hinata got 10 minutes of live if wasn't for doctors.

So what is exact purpose of 64 palms when 1 hit can equally deadly ?

Just goes to show how OP GF was

hence why Kishi never showed any Hyugas unless if it was a love confession while fighting a higher final dojutsu user with gravity powers


a long range battle against a pro archer so no CQC would be used

against the bloody 10 tails in the front lines

lol Kishi wrote himself in a corner with them and now he has an alien race that has the same abilities

Probably why Boruto's Jougan is dormant and why all of its powers are just there from the get go.


Also 64 palms seals the whole network. Besides Hima and her monster talent, the other scenarios isn't shutting down the chakra network.

Even then when a GF user hits any chakra point it just handicaps their opponent greatly.

I mean what would happen if they sealed the byakugou since it is just stored chakra on a chakra point in their forehead. Or if you seal the chakra circulation for a ninjas feet, no more walking on water for awhile lol.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Chakra control can counter plain gentle fist , Naruto was still able to create shadow clones after Neji touched him

 

[unknownvillain1254]

In your first response are you referring to neji feat versus kidomaru? If so I don't see what that has to do with what were saying were not discussing can any hyuga destroy organs but can they one shot anyone with gentle fist?

For example if himawaris feat against Naruto was nothing then any kid hyuga can one shot madara.

And. I don't get the point of your second response if you can one hit ko someone why don't you.

And lastly the point of palms technique is to close chakra networks I think in the series there's 360 in total and as they get more experienced they can close more.

But trying to close chakra networks becomes pointless if you can one hit ko anyone and this would make the byakugan super op in general.

The thing is that is true hyuga don't get in too much screen time because they can shot everybody

 

[Reraru]

When you want to capture the enemy alive I guess? Doesn't it also open the points? It can be pretty useful.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

No I agree that Himawari using 1 shot made existence of 64 palms pointless in a way.

The problem is you all are looking at it wrong and most of you don't have a Fighters IQ

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If you hit straight directly in the middle you can definitely take a person down because that is the center of where everybody chakra come from. But the problem comes in at two points

First that's a hard place to hit and moving battle along with the fact that it's heavily guarded by most people arms .

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Add in the fact that most people stand to the side as to not give you direct line to their stomach and or in your stance and changing your arm placement you can completely cover that up

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Then add in the fact that if somebody knows you're aiming only for one spot you become predictable but if you have 64 spots to hit that leaves your opponent with way too many spots to guard.


Imagine fighting somebody like killer bee who is not going to give you a clear open shot like that constantly moving

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[Reviewing Logic]

Now I am going to explain something to you OP (Tauren)

THE VALUE OF THE 64 PALMS

There is more then 64 major points in the Chakra Pathway System (経絡系), if you count them all, they are at least a total of 361 nodes called tenketsu.

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To Stop, increase, or do whatever to a users chakra network is the main trait of the GF

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With the Byakugan you can see this

These nodes act like little banks and gateways that connect the chakra network/system. Besides Himawari and her absurd prodigy status, one can't end a whole entire system with only one hit.

Of course one might say "why doesn't a Hyuga just use open palm strikes and chakra injection to basically kill the person via inner organ damage?" :wut:

There are many cases as to why that isn't the preferred choice of action, the MAIN being that since they are in a world of chakra and ninjitsu someone may even be able to still find a way to heal their organs with their chakra, or worse somehow have armour to tank it.

Shown here we see Tsunade heal her wounds with the byakugou.

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Kabuto was also able to heal his wounds with his chakra and we've seen other people like Naruto, Kisame, etc... do the same.

Why take a chance against a strong opponent when you are not certain if they have something up their sleeve to keep them alive. (Heck like Kakuzu they might have more then one hear, and on the battle field lack of information is a given.)


So this leads to my point of sealing/closing the chakra network.

Again there are more then 64 nodes/points in a system even some that are smaller then the major 361 points

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but in order to disrupt a ninja's overall chakra function and capability to the point of paralysis, one would just need to hit 32 and would need to complete it with 64 palm hits.

They do this by molding their chakra into needle like points and hitting the nodes with it.

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If you do less then that then a user can basically force a chakra restart by pushing a ton of chakra in their body to the closed point.

Having several points sealed leads to no movement or transfer of that chakra, turning the user into a vegetable.

They only way out of it is if you have an external (outside) chakra source to reignite the network by force.

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NOTE: That the byakugou seal is just a stored bank of chakra in one of these nodes, preferably the forehead.

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It is NOT an external source but the users OWN chakra that is stored away for a certain amount of time. (Sakura around 2-3years).


The only way for you to break free from a 64 Palm, again is to have an outside source, and Naruto has one called the Kyuubi. Designed by Minato to be the specifically the case.

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Which leads back to the Hima point being even more absurd since she trans passed even that and sealed the Kyuubi too.


So all in all the 64 Palm is indeed a needed asset since there is more to fighting and taking down your enemy beyond just stabbing them or attacking their organs.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Wow factor and guaranteed deathblow.
Just because there have been cases where One Jyuuken hit landed a deadly blow, it doesn't mean 64 palms is for naught.
For all I care, those one hits just served their narrative purposes

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Also the difficulty is hard since you have to hit very tiny 64 nodes (that the byakugan can only see) on a moving body during a small time interval

so also being incredibly fast in consecutive strikes