What is point of 64 palms

[InfiniteMugen]

What's to say he was trying to one shot him? I remember at one point in the fight he got him with the 64 palms if a one shot was in his capabilities that would of been the perfect opportunity.

That’s what I’m sayin, i think we’re mostly in agreement here. To one shot, either your level has to be leagues above your opponents, or your opponent isn’t defending, or even knows they’re fighting(i guess defenseless was a bad word to use)

 

[lImmortal Regis]

The attack is completely different. 64 hits was suppose to block the chakra network also doing some of the dmg, while the scan you show with single attack was to disable the enemy.

 

[Sagebee]

That’s what I’m sayin, i think we’re mostly in agreement here. To one shot, either your level has to be leagues above your opponents, or your opponent isn’t defending, or even knows they’re fighting(i guess defenseless was a bad word to use)

Yeah I agree and like I said to salamander if a hyuga could one shot anyone then that would make them too op

 

[salamander uchiha]

In your first response are you referring to neji feat versus kidomaru? If so I don't see what that has to do with what were saying were not discussing can any hyuga destroy organs but can they one shot anyone with gentle fist?

Thats the point you can attack 1 point and seal it off all you need is to deceive your opponent. And if killing is an issue all Hyuga(minus Hinata) can perform straight up kill shots.

For example if himawaris feat against Naruto was nothing then any kid hyuga can one shot madara.

Madara isn't Naruto so let's not go there. Your right in the general sense all you need to do is teach or train Hyuga to attack 1 point and develop strategies to force opponent to expose said point.

And. I don't get the point of your second response if you can one hit ko someone why don't you.

And lastly the point of palms technique is to close chakra networks I think in the series there's 360 in total and as they get more experienced they can close more.

The only reason I can think off is because 1 hit Ko's would make a story very short.

Closing 360? It doesnt quite work like that why bother closing 10, 20, 32, 64 when 1 is necessary Hyuga should train for that and develop strategies to make opponents expose the 1 point.

But trying to close chakra networks becomes pointless if you can one hit ko anyone and this would make the byakugan super op in general.

Of course but it's confirmed that 1 point is all that's necessary like I said I don't see any reason past the Head House being bored and deciding to create the jutsu.

I think all we're going to do is have a back and forth on the same points so there's no point continuing this unless there's something else we've missed.

 

[salamander uchiha]

64 palms would've been cooler of it was multi directional to deal with several opponents within a 360° sphere of influence then you could understand it being OP similar to rotation. If it was like that then you could understand the hype and it's power.

 

[Pyro NB]

I have a better chance at dodging and deflecting one shot versus 64 u.u

 

[Jinrou]

Juken effect with 64 palms will last the longest. The user is completely shutting off your chakra system for a long period of time, Hinata suffered the effects for about a week. If Neji had Six Path his 64palms could permanently destroy a chakra network.

*An entire month.. And Neji didn't use 64 palms against Hinata did he?

 

[Sagebee]

Thats the point you can attack 1 point and seal it off all you need is to deceive your opponent. And if killing is an issue all Hyuga(minus Hinata) can perform straight up kill shots.

Madara isn't Naruto so let's not go there. Your right in the general sense all you need to do is teach or train Hyuga to attack 1 point and develop strategies to force opponent to expose said point.



The only reason I can think off is because 1 hit Ko's would make a story very short.

Closing 360? It doesnt quite work like that why bother closing 10, 20, 32, 64 when 1 is necessary Hyuga should train for that and develop strategies to make opponents expose the 1 point.



Of course but it's confirmed that 1 point is all that's necessary like I said I don't see any reason past the Head House being bored and deciding to create the jutsu.

I think all we're going to do is have a back and forth on the same points so there's no point continuing this unless there's something else we've missed.

But we're not talking kill shots were just talking kos and you only really go after organs for kill shots.

Anyways let's just disrespectfully disagree and the series should make clear whose right

 

[Belserion]

The attack is completely different. 64 hits was suppose to block the chakra network also doing some of the dmg, while the scan you show with single attack was to disable the enemy.

Don't argue when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

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[Tauren Chieftain]

I'll give you time to edit your first sentence or you'll be reported for disrespecting my opinion.

OP- SIMPLE. if a kid who just happened to activate the Byakugan trashes all over the concept of 64 palms, the said technique is rendered useless at this point.

Yes I have to agree with this.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Yes I have to agree with this.

Do you think 64 palms would've made more sense if it was a 360° jutsu designed to attack specific points on multiple opponents around the user? The user could dispatch them quickly by sealing chakra points without necessarily killing them. That would be heavily overpowered, more combat orientated and would make sense being a head house secret Jutsu?

 

[lImmortal Regis]

Don't argue when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

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Maybe because the center of the stomach is the main chakra network, which Himawari hit with finger which block's all the network. The palm hit is more like of a blunt (if its the right word) hit which disables the enemy.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Maybe because the center of the stomach is the main chakra network, which Himawari hit with finger which block's all the network. The palm hit is more like of a blunt (if its the right word) hit which disables the enemy.

You do know 64 palms doesnt actually hit with 64 palm strikes right?

 

[Belserion]

Maybe because the center of the stomach is the main chakra network, which Himawari hit with finger which block's all the network. The palm hit is more like of a blunt (if its the right word) hit which disables the enemy.

Contradicted yourself with your second post. Quality stuff right there.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Do you think 64 palms would've made more sense if it was a 360° jutsu designed to attack specific points on multiple opponents around the user? The user could dispatch them quickly by sealing chakra points without necessarily killing them. That would be heavily overpowered, more combat orientated and would make sense being a head house secret Jutsu?

Of course I would I think main purpose of 64 palms is to capture you opponent and not kill him that's why you are denying him of chakra usage which will easily let you capture him.

 

[Sagebee]

Yes I have to agree with this.

Why exactly?

So do you think any hyuga can one shot ko anyone?

 

[Belserion]

^

That's funny how they use this panel to support their narrative when they cried about it being a irrelevant feat "comic relief".

"they" I'm the only one using this scan right now and I don't remember ever saying this scene is comedic relief. :|

 

[salamander uchiha]

Of course I would I think main purpose of 64 palms is to capture you opponent and not kill him that's why you are denying him of chakra usage which will easily let you capture him.

64 palms is sort of a failed and useless technique as it now is I think I may write to Kodachi so Hanabi Hime has our proposed more functional version. She'll be even more awesome compared to the rest. It can be her own exclusive jutsu she develops

 

[lImmortal Regis]

You do know 64 palms doesnt actually hit with 64 palm strikes right?

I never said it was the palm strikes ?

Contradicted yourself with your second post. Quality stuff right there.

There is a difference between finger hits and palm hits, but im glad i did. Finger hits blocks chakra network, while the palm is more of a blunt dmg similar to rasengan.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Why exactly?

So do you think any hyuga can one shot ko anyone?

No I agree that Himawari using 1 shot made existence of 64 palms pointless in a way.