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Okay we all know Uchiha Madara wasted so much Chakra by using I.T(planetary level and you know how much chakra you need to do that),he wasted so much chakra by summoning almost everywhere in the world trees(becuase Kaguya absorbed the chakra of the entire humanity so the entire humanity was connected with Madara's Trees).
He lost alot of chakra against Gai becuase he got injured hard and same goes when he got reckt by Naruto and Sasuke.


PLOT TWIST:Madara tried to absorb all the chakra from the humanity or something but B.Z stabbed and overhelmed him since he had almost no chakra left and B.Z was strong enough becuase he also had Obito's body?
Remember that Obito was able to take from Madara abit of the 1 and 8 tails...
But Sasuke Uchiha got overhelmed by B.Z(he was helpless)remember when Kaguya cried and said"Hagoromo and Hamura i hate you".But Naruto overhelmed Zetsu so he saved himself and Sasuke.

Madara was weakened and Zetsu overhelmed him(that seal+Madara being weakened by losing so much chakra caused his death).

2nd possibilty:Kishimoto was on drugs or drunk?

Well i think this happened for a reason,becuase if not then that's B.S (Kishi didn't explain it but if we think about it Madara wasted so much Juubi's power)he got weaker and got stabbed in the heart,honestly Sasuke wasn't able to overhelm B.Z so this explains it (You need a huge amount of chakra to overhelm B.Z).

Or maybe he wasn't able to move becuase he got stabbed in the heart? Discuse
 

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Okay we all know Uchiha Madara wasted so much Chakra by using I.T(planetary level and you know how much chakra you need to do that),he wasted so much chakra by summoning almost everywhere in the world trees(becuase Kaguya absorbed the chakra of the entire humanity so the entire humanity was connected with Madara's Trees).
He lost alot of chakra against Gai becuase he got injured hard and same goes when he got reckt by Naruto and Sasuke.
Stop assuming and show scans for proof.
This is all just assumptions.
Lord Madara died for the plot.
Lord Madara is bliss.
 

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Stop assuming and show scans for proof.
This is all nothing but assumptions.
Lord Madara died for the plot.
Lord Madara is bliss.

Madara lost a huge amount of chakra and that's a fact!
Casting I.T (planetary level jutsu).
Soloing him like that makes no sense,his sage power has become weaker and his power is not infinite...

You can reread the manga.
 

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Okay we all know Uchiha Madara wasted so much Chakra by using I.T(planetary level and you know how much chakra you need to do that),he wasted so much chakra by summoning almost everywhere in the world trees(becuase Kaguya absorbed the chakra of the entire humanity so the entire humanity was connected with Madara's Trees).
He lost alot of chakra against Gai becuase he got injured hard and same goes when he got reckt by Naruto and Sasuke.


PLOT TWIST:Madara tried to absorb all the chakra from the humanity or something but B.Z stabbed and overhelmed him since he had almost no chakra left and B.Z was strong enough becuase he also had Obito's body?
Remember that Obito was able to take from Madara abit of the 1 and 8 tails...
But Sasuke Uchiha got overhelmed by B.Z(he was helpless)remember when Kaguya cried and said"Hagoromo and Hamura i hate you".But Naruto overhelmed Zetsu so he saved himself and Sasuke.

Madara was weakened and Zetsu overhelmed him(that seal+Madara being weakened by losing so much chakra caused his death).

This makes sense. U_U
 

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This makes sense. U_U

There must be a reason why this happened,otherwise it is completely bullshit.
Ik Naruto Gaiden chapter 6(when Naruto got stabbed was B.S).
But killing off the main villan like that sucks...
 

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HAHA...hahahhahahahhahahahahahahAHHAHAHAH.


You make the funniest threads + rep


Btw no :)
 

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HAHA...hahahhahahahhahahahahahahAHHAHAHAH.


You make the funniest threads + rep


Btw no :)

TY LOL,but there must be a reason dude but okay if you disagree that's a matter of opinion and i'm fine with that.
 

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died like a fodder
 

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Madara does not have infinite chakra levels just because he is a Juubi Jin (I mean even Kaguya was running out of chakra). He poured out all of his chakra in order to trap everyone with the Shinju's roots + Used a mass genjutsu by reflecting his eye off the moon. This would have consumed a massive amount of chakra, near about equal to the chakra used when Kaguya switches dimensions.

Madara being weakened makes sense, and so does Black Zetsu's takeover with above point in mind.
 

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What are you even going on about?

Black Zetus stabbed Madara > Kagyua who was inside took control > Madara's died from it, as he was split and lost all his Juubi power

How is this even remotely confusing for you to make a theory thread?
 

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Madara lost a huge amount of chakra and that's a fact!
Casting I.T (planetary level jutsu).
Soloing him like that makes no sense, his sage power has become weaker and his power is not infinite...

You can reread the manga.
Or praising him--jokes or not.
 

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Also what supports OP's point is Black Zetsu being forced to insert the chakra of the Mugen Tsukuyomi victims to make up for the chakra lost by Madara (Which was massive). This means Madara had low reserves of Chakra at that point and his body was not able to handle the huge spike of chakra level increase which triggered the transformation.
 

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Okay we all know Uchiha Madara wasted so much Chakra by using I.T(planetary level and you know how much chakra you need to do that)
Yeah ok
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he wasted so much chakra by summoning almost everywhere in the world trees(becuase Kaguya absorbed the chakra of the entire humanity so the entire humanity was connected with Madara's Trees).
stop here, it was effortless, madara was nowhere out of chakra.
He lost alot of chakra against Gai becuase he got injured hard and same goes when he got reckt by Naruto and Sasuke.
He regenrated,absorbed the tree and took back his other eye, bro what the hell are you talking about. Besides he was never out of chakra or even near that...
PLOT TWIST:Madara tried to absorb all the chakra from the humanity or something but B.Z stabbed and overhelmed him since he had almost no chakra left and B.Z was strong enough becuase he also had Obito's body?
Remember that Obito was able to take from Madara abit of the 1 and 8 tails...
Obito's body should have only prieced him, not restrict his movement and like I said madara wasn't even nearly out of chakra he had the whole juubi for god's sake what kind of reasoning is this/? plus he could switched with limbo
But Sasuke Uchiha got overhelmed by B.Z(he was helpless)remember when Kaguya cried and said"Hagoromo and Hamura i hate you".But Naruto overhelmed Zetsu so he saved himself and Sasuke.
It was due kaguya providing him with chakra but anyway sasuke could've switched with anything using ameno or even use sosunao, many things were possible he wasn't helpless, he simply couldn't move
Madara was weakened and Zetsu overhelmed him(that seal+Madara being weakened by losing so much chakra caused his death).
Madara wasn't weakened, he was 100% powerful and ready to whoop that ass, and BZ had no shown an ability of sealing anything's movement aside from obito who was totally overwherlemmd due losing to naruto and sasuke and bijuu extraction
2nd possibilty:Kishimoto was on drugs or drunk?
No it's just that he said he had no way of beating madara.



Or maybe he wasn't able to move becuase he got stabbed in the heart? Discuse

A juubi jin can regenerate even heart.




Madara simply lost because
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Most probably Madara had the same seal in his heart that he planted on Obito but was removed due to Kakashi Kunai chidori..

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Here Obito pierces Madara in the heart, restraining him from his movements.

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Exactly the same Black Zetsu did..

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Madara died because he was arrogant. Like explained by BZ he made Madara believe everything was his plan, so it doesn't suprise me if Madara had this seal in his heart, planted by BZ himself. There is no other explanation for why the heart pierces made Madara unable to move.

This is why Madara was defeated, it was not his plan, BZ was the Aizen of Naruto Manga.

Regarding the overwhelming BZ, lets not forget that a fragile Obito was able to control BZ..

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So I don't know if the part of being hard to overwhelm BZ requires a huge amount of chakra.
 
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Yeah ok
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stop here, it was effortless, madara was nowhere out of chakra.

He regenrated,absorbed the tree and took back his other eye, bro what the hell are you talking about. Besides he was never out of chakra or even near that...

Obito's body should have only prieced him, not restrict his movement and like I said madara wasn't even nearly out of chakra he had the whole juubi for god's sake what kind of reasoning is this/? plus he could switched with limbo

It was due kaguya providing him with chakra but anyway sasuke could've switched with anything using ameno or even use sosunao, many things were possible he wasn't helpless, he simply couldn't move

Madara wasn't weakened, he was 100% powerful and ready to whoop that ass, and BZ had no shown an ability of sealing anything's movement aside from obito who was totally overwherlemmd due losing to naruto and sasuke and bijuu extraction

No it's just that he said he had no way of beating madara.





A juubi jin can regenerate even heart.




Madara simply lost because
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Black Zetsu literally started inserting himself into Madara's body, mix that with Kaguya inside working with the former to recreate herself. It makes sense.
 

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Madara simply lost because
People like really baffle me. According to your logic the author introduced an even stronger being than Madara because he couldn't find a way to defeat Madara?

HELLO! Madara was going to lose the same way Kagyua, through the Yin and Yang seals of Naruto and Sasuke. They already attempted to seal him as soon as they started their counter attack with their new powers.

Madara's movement was restricted when BZ stabbed him, he literally said that himself ''I can't move''


Then because Kagyua was already inside Madara, her will (BZ) awakened her, splitting Madara in half and overtaking his body.

I'm not really sure what people find confusing about these events.
 

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People like really baffle me. According to your logic the author introduced an even stronger being than Madara because he couldn't find a way to defeat Madara?

HELLO! Madara was going to lose the same way Kagyua, through the Yin and Yang seals of Naruto and Sasuke. They already attempted to seal him as soon as they started their counter attack with their new powers.

Madara's movement was restricted when BZ stabbed him, he literally said that himself ''I can't move''


Then because Kagyua was already inside Madara, her will (BZ) awakened her, splitting Madara in half and overtaking his body.

I'm not really sure what people find confusing about these events.

Do you really think that Madara would allow anyone else to touch him besides Hashirama?

Please use your pairing senses.
 

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If obito killed him it would make sense but the fact that black zetsu did makes Madaras death a fodder
 

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Black Zetsu literally started inserting himself into Madara's body, mix that with Kaguya inside working with the former to recreate herself. It makes sense.
Why didn't madara switch with limbo, it was seen that even after the damage was done madara could switch with a limbo.
People like really baffle me. According to your logic the author introduced an even stronger being than Madara because he couldn't find a way to defeat Madara?
Are you saying that kaguya went all out?go ahead say it, make me laugh bro.
HELLO! Madara was going to lose the same way Kagyua, through the Yin and Yang seals of Naruto and Sasuke. They already attempted to seal him as soon as they started their counter attack with their new powers.
That was 1 eye'd juubi jin
Madara's movement was restricted when BZ stabbed him, he literally said that himself ''I can't move''
Limbo doesn't require moving it simply switch the user whole existence with a clone
Then because Kagyua was already inside Madara, her will (BZ) awakened her, splitting Madara in half and overtaking his body.
Yes but alone as chakra tree, kaguya couldn't do anything, she need BZ to somehow activate her powers, but madara should have normally used limbo like he did here.

The seal was half way through his body and the attacks had physically collide with his body yet he switched
I'm not saying nadara is unbeatable, all I'm stating is that his death contradicted with his feats of reacting to instantaneous movement, and even the speed of people like sasuke, he could even use on of his techs but nope he cant. In fact, black zetsu should have been inside the IT.
 
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