What is Illuminati exactly??

[TheLOLRoller]

But why so many people believe in it? Maybe because it partly makes sense and they provide solid facts? After all how can you provide a proof when it can be classified or denied by the gov. I don't consider myself as conspirasy theorist but I'm open minded to everything. We're leaving in very interesting time, banks are exposed and it's a fact :3

I'd very much like to hear these ''solid facts'' that you speak of.

And please, don't post me a video from youtube, just tell me the ''solid facts'' why illuminati excists.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Kids like him won't believe they exist and will be continued to be brain-washed by them.

Most people are brain-washed and don't even know it.

Here are some videos that I suggest you guys to watch and notice how they're from the same up loader. He is an awesome youtuber and shares a lot of information about them.




9-11 attack that people think that it's Osama's doing. Pathetic.

So true, but it's not wise to force something down someones throat. I mean I totally agree with you but if anyone doesn't wonna know, then they are obviously ignorant and not open minded like 'Grim' suggested. No matter, who are we to convince the world. They disbelieve at their own risk, I guess Awsome videos btw, very informative and interesting

I'm not entirely sure about 'the conspiracy of 9/11', you could be right? However, what I do know is that the illuminati did have a hand in causing the First World War(WWI). From what i've been told, the Zionists who are known to be in control of the modern Illuminati organization, had negotiated with the Western Powers just before the war; mainly Britian, France and the US. Some also believe that it was a 'battle of territories' started by the Western powers. And the Central Powers were trying to suppress the Allied Powers from invading their lands and other lands. Britian and France supposedly brought the other countries into war to assist them in their plan of 'world domination' and in turn promised them with advanced technology as a prize. In the end they kept their promise and their countries were also much more developed than before but did it end there? No, because the Allied Powers also helped out the Jews and this was one of the main reasons why the zionists participated thus resulting in the creation of Israel. But they can't ****ing govern the state properly because they are committing atrocities against the population living amongst them. Why not be grateful for once that you got a whole country to yourself rather than still being hell-bent on revenge which is pointless now.

I'd very much like to hear these ''solid facts'' that you speak of.

And please, don't post me a video from youtube, just tell me the ''solid facts'' why illuminati excists.

Please....

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This page is not for ignorant *******s like you. The thread clearly states everything wrong that's going on in the world which are facts and makes sense because half of them are true and half are likely to be true. Don't waste my time or anyone else's time and more importantly your own time. Don't wonna believe, don't believe. No ones gotta force you.

 

[Suigetsu13]

Its more of a fallacy.

 

[Tendou00]

illuminati
skull and bones
dajjal system
antichrist system
lucifer worshiper
atheists free maçon
zionism

It's all the same group

 

[TheLOLRoller]

Anyway, as much as I know or so i've researched (1) is that the illuminati is a deceptive cult that's long-term goal is to manipulate the world and eventually make it evil. (2) We can already observe, analyze and conclude that this is already happening. I was also skeptical like any other person that just hears few words of truth (3) about the illuminati. One of it's objectives is to destroy religion (4) and slowly we can see that this is also happening. Alot of people are becoming atheists(non-religious). There are also a few guys I know and some friends that I have with ancestors (what potato?) who were once christians and muslims but they themselves are now atheist.(5) The biggest tool that this illuminati movement use is the Media.

The Media is the most effective tool that they have(6) and the main one that is used to deceive people (7) and encourage them to do things that are either against their morals or simply have an evil outcome.(8) They control many industries and organizations.(9) A few are: Music Industry, Pornographic Industry and the Film Industry. I mean they are pretty much poisoning everybody's mind that are alive around the world and they are succeeding in what they're doing.

As for the 3 religions associated with this illuminati cult. They say the zionist jews are behind all of this. They seem to be working from within the shadows while the light that's infront of them appears to be colourful and attractive. I'm referring to the content which their industries have that seem colourful and very attractive. This is probably the best analogy that I've come up with about them. Adding everything up, it means that the source of this evil is the religion of Judaism. Now I'm not stereotypical so i'm not gonna blame every jew because not every jew is a zionist and not every jew support the works of evil. However, it seems to be that a group of zionist jews are plotting to destroy other religions but mainly the religions of Christianity and Islam.(10) But what's shown in the Media is propaganda against Islam and nothing much about Christianity. As far as I know. Not all christians are pious and loyal anymore. They're religion is pretty much unstable. Now these zionist jews(11) are concentrating on Islam because they know that the system in Islam is firm and they've always had a grudge against muslims and hated them more than christians.


If your still not sure about Illuminati or still don't believe in it, you might wonna think to your self again about a few negative factors that exist in this world. Take Crime as one. What might cause a sane person to become insane and kill a couple of innocent people? What might cause an honest, humble and modest person to steal, become arrogant and lie as well as deceive people? Isn't it the same answer to all of the negative things of the world..the Media! Your telling me: video games, movies, toys and music that contain violence and evil don't encourage or influence anyone to commit atrocious and vile acts!?


You seem to rely much on something ''they'' say. Who are these mysterious people?
And there are no facts here that have anything to do with the ''illuminati''

Your telling me: video games, movies, toys and music that contain violence and evil don't encourage or influence anyone to commit atrocious and vile acts!?

Yes.

Well, except the videogame part, I used to play MW3 and I would be quite mad when getting killed, but only for a brief moment. So how many kids or adults have you seen beating someone up because their barbie dolls, or their superman toys told them to do it? The same can be said with music, yes there have been some cases of violence, (ie. John Lennon) but most of the people who do this kind of stuff have a mental illness of some sort.

And you don't have to star calling me names, you aren't forcing me to believe something you just heard? from THEM?

And can you give me a few names of who you think are in the illuminati? Do you believe that the leaders of countries are a part of it, or is someone that controls them a part of it?

1. So what's your research? I doubt that such a powerful organization would let information just float around freely. So I presume you have been in the field, and done somekind of spying?

2.How would you describe this evil? How would the illuminati benefit from it?

3.Words of truth huh?

4.Source?

5.So being an atheist means you have been brainwashed by the illuminati, not that you believe in the huge amount of proof and other facts that atheism has to offer?

6.How do they controll the media? Source?

7.Like lie to them? This could happen.

8.So things like murder or child rape? Seems like their brainwash hasn't been very succesful, but what about the fact that there are more christians who turned atheist than there are child rapists?

9.What industries do they control? Also source?

10.What would they benefit from that? Also source?

11.How did you come to the conclusion that it was the jews? I've heard of this guy just like you, he likes to blame the jews for EVERYTHING BAD. You might have heard of him? Adolf Hitler, he was a pretty famous guy.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

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Way to many people brainwashed to believe in such a "evil" group.

 

[mcchikeneater]

There may be a secret society causing problems behind the scenes, but I will place a good bet "illuminati" stopped existing hundreds of years ago. The fact that we know the word illuminati, means they are very unlikely to be called illuminati anymore. Illuminati is probably something that the real secret society keeps spreading rumors about on the internet to keep idiot conspiracy theorists miles away from the truth. If any one of you had even the tiniest bit of truth in what you were posting, then you probably already would have vanished. Stop making these dumb threads about it, try using the search bar, illuminati threads are getting really old since they are made almost as often as religion threads, and they are just as pointless. If you searched illuminati, I am sure there are hundreds upon hundreds of illuminati threads on the base, each one with less purpose than the last.

You all keep assuming that its evil, but I highly doubt evil has anything to do with. People don't do bad things just because they are bad, especially powerful people, they do things for power. Any secret society isn't trying to turn the world evil or destroy the world, humans do a good enough job of that on their own, they are trying to make sure no matter which civilizations rise and fall, that they retain their power.

 

[Grim]

I'd very much like to hear these ''solid facts'' that you speak of.

And please, don't post me a video from youtube, just tell me the ''solid facts'' why illuminati excists.

First of all it isn't a conspiracy fiction.. Illuminati was created in 1776 ''fact'' It's a name given to several groups. Which members are or we're from wealthiest families .as. (ex presidents, bankers, etc ) Bush, Rockefeller, Ford, Edison ... and so on. I never said they plan world domination or other conspiracy stuff that people claim. I personally believe they simply discuss market ''business'' how to manipulate it, how to destroy something that could've lower they'r profits, and I would be shocked if this organisation didn't exist. It's a society where you can discuss things with people on your level. It's like drug addicts having they'r little society somewhere under the bridge. Where no one can interfare. You don't expect them to show up with whole group of people infront of Cameras and start discussing how to drain oil out of 3'd world country's and force U.S dollar as oil currency to the rest. On top of that federal bank of america and europe belong to private owners not the country


and mcchikeneater is right: word illuminati might be ''nickname'' they probably have different name now. After all there's 100'ds of secret societies over the world... it's nothing new

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

You seem to rely much on something ''they'' say. Who are these mysterious people?
And there are no facts here that have anything to do with the ''illuminati''

So your confused about my use of the word “they”. Well I’ll help clear this up for you since it must be so difficult for you to understand, or tell you what go check the thread again. You can’t be that stupid. Depending on the context of what you read, I’m either referring to the Illuminati, the people that watch and listen to the Media or the Zionist jews apart from the paragraph where I talk about my friends who were Muslims and Christians(is also the first time I use “they” in the thread).

Do you even know the definition of fact? "A fact is something that is known to exist that is based and backed up by evidence and proof."

Everything that I’ve stated is evidence that “Illuminati” or some evil organization exists and is clearly destroying the world so therefore something of the nature must exist. Like I said before, you can believe or not it’s up to you.

Your telling me: video games, movies, toys and music that contain violence and evil don't encourage or influence anyone to commit atrocious and vile acts!?

Yes - Well, except the videogame part, I used to play MW3 and I would be quite mad when getting killed, but only for a brief moment. So how many kids or adults have you seen beating someone up because their barbie dolls, or their superman toys told them to do it? The same can be said with music, yes there have been some cases of violence, (ie. John Lennon) but most of the people who do this kind of stuff have a mental illness of some sort.

Haha, the stupity that you show in your message makes me laugh. Quite ludicrous actually. People are NOT born to behave insanely but are driven to behave insanely. There are countless games that encourage violence and evil(Call of Duty, GTA, Tomb Raider, Mortal Kombat, Devil May Cry to name a few)

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> The same can be said about Movies and Films(Ong Bak, Rush Hour, Godfather etc.)

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^ Notice the pupper strings above "The Godfather"? (subliminal message)
Tell me you don’t believe how horror movies can cause psychological disorders and other problems. About toys, what would you say about a 3year old kid holding a replica SG 540 or a replica glock/revolver. He’d be immediately shot by a police officer just by pointing the gun at him. Still don’t get it!? Let’s go to Music, yah young emos and punks slitting their wrists and hanging themselves after listening to a type of hardcore rock music isn’t crazy!? Do you understand what i'm trying to say now?

And you don't have to star calling me names, you aren't forcing me to believe something you just heard? from THEM?

Sorry for calling you a moron and ignorant then. Even if this may be 100% true, I guess you get offended easily. Lucky for you I can sympathize.

And can you give me a few names of who you think are in the illuminati? Do you believe that the leaders of countries are a part of it, or is someone that controls them a part of it?

You got the wrong impression, I have no relation with the “Illuminati.” Why would I be enlightening you and other people about their ‘true colors’ then? Unlike the Illuminati, I don’t comply with Hypocrisy and I’m completely against it since it’s purely evil. I’m sure you would agree unless you believe that Obito(Tobi) was doing a good thing by disguising as different people and deceiving everyone. You’re aware of how the Akatsuki was structured, right? Nagato was controlling the organization just like a prime minister/president controls a country. But someone was also controlling Nagato, yah it was Obito(Tobi). Just like that there is someone/some people that control/s the leaders of a country. Nagato was like a figurehead of Akatsuki while Obito(Tobi) was playing with the puppet strings even though he’s not Sasori xd.

So what's your research? I doubt that such a powerful organization would let information just float around freely. So I presume you have been in the field, and done somekind of spying?

Again, you really need to learn the definition of the words you use in your arguments man. Research is “The systematic investigation into and study of materials and sources in order to establish facts and reach new conclusions.” ^

How would you describe this evil? How would the illuminati benefit from it?

In this case: the opposite of sustainable peace, the opposite of sustainable happiness, encouragement of various immoral actions and acts(crime, gambling, disbelief, intoxication via alcohol and drugs etc.) It is told in religious scriptures(mainly abrahamic), Satan is looking for the best group of people to do his filthy work for him. Illuminati are also considered to be people who worship Satan, take part in sorcery(magic). “Illuminati”’s goal is to corrupt the world and spread disbelief which is the same or a very similar goal of the Satan’s. They may foolishly believe that Satan will grant them eternal happiness and prosperity.

Source?

How do they controll the media? Source?

What industries do they control? Also source?

What would they benefit from that? Also source?

Source? I have something called a Brain. A Brain is a blessed tool that if used correctly and efficiently, you can get very far and realize as well as have a great insight in something which makes a lot of sense about what’s actually going on around the world. I was once renowned for my great analytical skill during English classes at College. You need to read and understand carefully!

So being an atheist means you have been brainwashed by the illuminati, not that you believe in the huge amount of proof and other facts that atheism has to offer?

No you misunderstand. Firstly, I didn’t say anything about atheists. Although, it is true that this “Illuminati” is affecting the world that obviously includes atheists and many religious people. But the point I’m trying to make is the concept of ‘conversion in people’. From belief to disbelief, from religious to non-religious, from morality to immorality, get it?

So things like murder or child rape? Seems like their brainwash hasn't been very succesful, but what about the fact that there are more christians who turned atheist than there are child rapists?

Precisely, and why hasn’t their brainwash been successful if this is happening more frequently now??

How did you come to the conclusion that it was the jews? I've heard of this guy just like you, he likes to blame the jews for EVERYTHING BAD. You might have heard of him? Adolf Hitler, he was a pretty famous guy.

Well firstly, who do you think are Zionist Jews? They were initially a group of Jews that were against Anti-Semitism and supported the creation of a Jewish state; Israel. Now that they have got what they wanted, they are still not satisfied. They have a strong desire that Jews be respected and supported in every country and to take radical action against anyone that treats the Jews harshly. In order to ensure the safety of the Jews around the world, they would like to rule the world. This is another reason for why Zionist Jews are connected to the Illuminati. To me, they seem to be more like a Jewish version of the Muslim extremists. They are clearly behind the massacre of the innocent Palestinians. Obviously, this is not the way to go about it, taking innocent lives to protect others when the people you wonna protect are already safe. Clearly stupid and ridiculous!

There is also some information that we don’t know about them and is left concealed except between them themselves. They may also have some associations with Sorcery and Satan. Yes, hypocrisy at it’s finest. They say that they are loyal to Jews and the state of Israel but is this actually true? Islam enlightens alot of people involving the relationship between then and Jews but I don’t know much. You may have to research yourself, maybe ask a knowledgeable muslim about this. Forgot to mention, there are also some Jews who are against what the Zionists are doing. There not really fulfilling every Jew's wish here now are they? This again adds to more suspicion.

As for Adolf Hitler, I don’t know much about him. If he wanted to kill the whole race of Jews, then he was kind of a psychopath without any doubt. But if he wanted to exterminate only Zionist Jews, then it may have been a type of heroic act which he set in motion. Come to think of it, what he did is no different than what the Zionist Jews are doing to the Palestinians.

 

[drknght]

It's all about the money. There videos of David Duke who explains what jews really are.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

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Way to many people brainwashed to believe in such a "evil" group.

Allow me to correct you by rewording what you've written. Many people are brainwashed to believe in the existance of such a evil group and what it consists of and what it's objectives and intentions are. I'm not saying it's entirely everybody's fault, they could be too distracted by what the societies in which they live in have to offer such as various products that are advertised and sold via the marketing industry. There are also social affairs and matters such as paying bills and job commitments which are usually considered to be primary responsibilities in almost every society today. So people remain occupied with these commitments and never have enough time to think about what is actually going on around the world, I mean from within.

There may be a secret society causing problems behind the scenes, but I will place a good bet "illuminati" stopped existing hundreds of years ago. The fact that we know the word illuminati, means they are very unlikely to be called illuminati anymore. Illuminati is probably something that the real secret society keeps spreading rumors about on the internet to keep idiot conspiracy theorists miles away from the truth. If any one of you had even the tiniest bit of truth in what you were posting, then you probably already would have vanished. Stop making these dumb threads about it, try using the search bar, illuminati threads are getting really old since they are made almost as often as religion threads, and they are just as pointless. If you searched illuminati, I am sure there are hundreds upon hundreds of illuminati threads on the base, each one with less purpose than the last.

You all keep assuming that its evil, but I highly doubt evil has anything to do with. People don't do bad things just because they are bad, especially powerful people, they do things for power. Any secret society isn't trying to turn the world evil or destroy the world, humans do a good enough job of that on their own, they are trying to make sure no matter which civilizations rise and fall, that they retain their power.

I agree with you and as I've also stated in the earlier posts, the term "Illuminati" refers to groups which are associated with one but have the same goal. It's like if we compare with Naruto, how the alias Pein actually refered to a number of people with the same goal. This goal was initially Obito(Tobi's) but Nagato was doing the job. Similarly the "Illuminati" are following the orders of someone in charge and this person possibly communicates with Satan in some way in order to fulfill his goal of corrupting the world and ruining it.

This search bar is shit compared to the other. It's not useful at all, you can't find what you want to find. I'd highly disagree that this "Illuminati" thread is anywhere near as good as the others. This is probably the most informative and enlightening "Illuminati" thread on NB. You need to read with attentiveness and understand more. I can see that your starting to lose hope and if anything can be done to stop this evil organization. That's a misconception. Not every leading person in the world cares about power, well maybe they're only starting to reach that stage now and then wars will come about. Before, leaders of countries were humble and peaceful showing love and maintaining happiness in their country and firm peace agreements with their neighbor countries. Now all of this is beginning to change, people are becoming arrogant and lusting for power. What you talk about when you mention "power", your trying to refer to the leaders of countries. Who are the puppets of "Illuminati" but this is not the sole purpose of "Illuminati". Nevertheless, it is still an imporant component which is used in their plan. Please read my post ^^

 

[Avani 🥉]

What can we do to put a permanent end to this evil and bring peace and happiness once again to our world??

How do we know you are not one of them? smh

Why must we imagine that there is a group of people out to get us; that that unknown force is the root of all the so called evil and must be dealt with or taken care of or fought against or make a crusade/jihad against or we all must be destroyed. Aren't we ourself creating conflict right there? The same conflict we are accusing them for?

I see blaming any particular group(existent or imaginary) for all our problems, weakness, failures and misdeeds as an attempt to avoid taking responsibility of our own actions and decisions. We the ones making decisions and acting upon it. We have brains and our own conscious to lead us.

There is nothing permanent in the land of the living. Only thing permanent is death. Peace and happiness are relative and thus pretty subjective terms. Same music which sounds us nice may sound like noise under different circumstances.

You want peace?

Let your conscious, your own inherent sense of right and wrong guide you. Give, anything you do, your best shot but learn to be satisfied what you get in the end. Leave everything else to God. There is no greater peace when you are satisfied with the effort you made and your conscious knows that you made the right choice and you couldn't do any better in action or thought.

You want happiness?

‘In this little life of ours, if we can bring even a moment’s joy in another heart, that alone is true religion. Everything else is moonshine. Bring joy to others, and you shall attain joy. Because the others and us are not different. We are one and the same. This is one of the best ways of being in bliss. "

-Swami Vivekananda

 

[Scorps]

They are out to get you. Run. Save yourself.


>_>


you must really have trouble sleeping..

 

[Avani 🥉]

They are out to get you. Run. Save yourself.


>_>


you must really have trouble sleeping..

Somebody said "run"?

Quick! Get the BatMobile!!

I am joining whichever side has it.^^

 

[Shinobi Train]

How do we know you are not one of them? smh

Why must we imagine that there is a group of people out to get us; that that unknown force is the root of all the so called evil and must be dealt with or taken care of or fought against or make a crusade/jihad against or we all must be destroyed. Aren't we ourself creating conflict right there? The same conflict we are accusing them for?

I see blaming any particular group(existent or imaginary) for all our problems, weakness, failures and misdeeds as an attempt to avoid taking responsibility of our own actions and decisions. We the ones making decisions and acting upon it. We have brains and our own conscious to lead us.

There is nothing permanent in the land of the living. Only thing permanent is death. Peace and happiness are relative and thus pretty subjective terms. Same music which sounds us nice may sound like noise under different circumstances.

You want peace?

Let your conscious, your own inherent sense of right and wrong guide you. Give, anything you do, your best shot but learn to be satisfied what you get in the end. Leave everything else to God. There is no greater peace when you are satisfied with the effort you made and your conscious knows that you made the right choice and you couldn't do any better in action or thought.

You want happiness?

‘In this little life of ours, if we can bring even a moment’s joy in another heart, that alone is true religion. Everything else is moonshine. Bring joy to others, and you shall attain joy. Because the others and us are not different. We are one and the same. This is one of the best ways of being in bliss. "

-Swami Vivekananda

It's necessary for some people to blame others, or even a secret group, for certain things. For instance, people saying "The Man is keeping us down". This is merely a popular excuse for one's shortcomings. In the case of secret societies, its actually how some people mentally deal with things such as 9/11 attacks, wars and other types of disasters including assassinations of critical people, like John Lennon or JFK.

The problem is that the truth is too simple for them, in some way its too scary to think that things like this happen without some great plot behind it...otherwise it could easily happen to them or something of that nature. Its more than just that however, its the human mind's lack of education and fear of the unknown. People used to burn what they thought were witches simply because witches were assumed to be the cause of the plague. There didn't seem to be a more rational explanation at the time for so many people dying. They knew it was a disease of some sort, but for it to be so bad, it had to have been caused by someone, when all that was really wrong was the people's lack of hygiene. It was their own fault for not bathing properly, storing food properly so the rats wouldn't be attracted, etc.

In other words, people are incapable of blaming themselves as a whole...it must be the fault of a secret group plotting against the world. No other explanation allows people to rest at night knowing that there's nothing they can do to stop it. War could be ended if people would just simply start behaving like adults, and the same goes for every other disaster caused by humanity. Of course, every Black Friday we get to see that people are really just animals, incapable of rational thought. As long as that remains, there will always be war, terrorism, etc.

 

[Scorps]

Somebody said "run"?

Quick! Get the BatMobile!!

I am joining whichever side has it.^^

O__O

I think its on "their" side... "they" control everything...


O__________O

 

[~Yubel~]

Illuminati FTW!

My abo is a member.
That's how i get free jad.

 

[Tosen]

Illuminati FTW!

My abo is a member.
That's how i get free jad.

LMAO ****ING ASS OFFFFF

share some of that jad bro

 

[~Yubel~]

LMAO ****ING ASS OFFFFF

share some of that jad bro

Pirates don't share.

 

[Sigma]

Watching you all debate on this amuses me and brings interest. Keep up the flow.