What is Gaara's counter to this?

[Uverdore9]

Sand clone substitute. I mean besides having the power to absorb ninjutsu, erasing ninjutsu or space time ninjutsu there is no counter for that jutsu from anyone.

Susano'O is a legit counter......I believe Onoki could only pulverize a Susano'O after Byakugo chakra.

 

[GetsugaTenshou]

Sand clone substitute. I mean besides having the power to absorb ninjutsu, erasing ninjutsu or space time ninjutsu there is no counter for that jutsu from anyone.

Yeah this. Jinton is hax, the only downside is how long it takes Ohnoki to create one that big

 

[Styles]

To be fair to the old boy he was pretty taxxed by that time, I can't see any reason why he wouldn't be able to do it without Tsunade's chakra.

Agreed.

What? You mean the Jinton on the gifs I posted? Yes he can. He did that all by himself on the gif. That's not the scene with 25 Susano'os

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Yea my mistake. He used a similar one with Tsunade's chakra and that one he did it solo to rid the pollen. So you're correct.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Teh Onoki waz able to make Gaara sand lighter so he can do teh oppozite and make it heavier so his sand would be too slow to even hit him .Onoki easily defeats him.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Susano'O is a legit counter......I believe Onoki could only pulverize a Susano'O after Byakugo chakra.

Susano'o would get vaporized by Particle style but it's too small to vaporize the whole thing, we are talking about at most a whole single shin from Perfect Suano'o would be gone.
That and Susano'o has enough mobility to get out of the way( I hope think). In terms of durability all solid/chakra substance in the narutoverse gets erased by jinton besides the ones I listed.

It's just that Oonoki and Mu don't even have the chakra to change in shape a Particle style jutsu that is as big as a biju or even perfect susano'o. It's too little but that little jutsu still vaporized anything inside of its circumference.

 

[Mori Jin]

Nothing.

OT: Wow someone must have rustled you, What with all these Gaara threads your making lol.

 

[Belserion]

Nothing.

OT: Wow someone must have rustled you, What with all these Gaara threads your making lol.

What...I only made 2 Gaara threads today...

 

[123fire]

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Any Suggestions to a reliabe counter without getting pulverized into dust?

even madara couldn't counter it

 

[Jinrou]

Simple. He simply doesn't allow Ohnoki the chance to use it in the first place.

Gaara is one of the few characters that has shown to be able to attack and defend simultaneously [

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Onoki simply doesn't have the luxury of long range attacks with the only one he has -Jiton iirc- taking quite the bit of time to execute completely. Onoki would first have to be stationary then look to fire but the slightest distraction would cause the tech to fail [

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] something i'm sure we all know Gaara is capable of creating.

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implies Gaara's sand speed is > Onoki's flight but it could very well mean they are just the same speed. Onoki's best flight speed praise was wrt Deidara [

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Even if this analysis of speed is wrong, fact remains that Onoki was just as fast as Deidara who was never totally clear of even the regular desert sand and was launching attacks while on the move [

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] Something Onoki can't do if he intends on using Jiton.

Once Gaara's sand touches him, Onoki is dead lol.. lightening the sand would make no sense while added weight rock technique would make no difference as Gaara just maintains the sand's hold on him and crush him quicker. If he uses that technique to the stage where it looks like it causes

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]for it to fall off, it would still change nothing as Gaara's chakra remains in the rocks and he simply breaks it down yet again to sand and we know for a fact his execution of this is pretty quick. [

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And lets just say Onoki does find a way somehow to keep the distance needed to prep and fire Jiton while Gaara stays still and stares at him with googly eyes, there is the advantage of sand feints and it more or less seems to me like Jiton is extremely chakra tasking as Onoki implies here. [

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TLDR; Jiton isn't instant, simple distraction cancels Jiton, Onoki can't get far enough to create the distance needed to prep and fire Jiton plus while running he just makes it easier for Gaara to use sand feints.

 

[Belserion]

massive trolling

Ohnoki is as fast as a meteor. He can pretty well create a huge distance between him and Gaara and one shot him. Sorry.

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Given everyone in this thread agrees that there is no counter you should put your obvious trolling bias aside and accept the fact that Ohnoki would absolutely trash neg Gaara with the lowest of difficulty. :lol

 

[Umari Senju]

The only counter is to not let him fire it off. If he gets the shot off...gg

Why are you hating on my boy Gaara so much today Bel?

 

[Belserion]

The only counter is to not let him fire it off. If he gets the shot off...gg

Why are you hating on my boy Gaara so much today Bel?

I didn't mean to! Gaara is great let me post a Gaara appreciation thread for you later! :T_T:

 

[Jinrou]

Ohnoki is as fast as a meteor. He can pretty well create a huge distance between him and Gaara and one shot him. Sorry.

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Given everyone in this thread agrees that there is no counter you should put your obvious trolling bias aside and accept the fact that Ohnoki would absolutely trash neg Gaara with the lowest of difficulty. :lol

The other thread has kinda proven to me you are not to be taken seriously and are probably Salamander level at this point which is a shame tbh. I will now plead with you to re add/put me in your ignore list because i have made you face facts before and your reaction in your comments is akin to crying little kids and i really won't like for you to be crying like that anymore.. Its sorta embarassing.

Food for thought. Gaara was able to utilize his sand techniques amongst the speedsters in the series when they were looking to tag Madara with 7 and 8G Gai. Try to use your head and figure out what that would mean.

 

[Reboryushon]

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All I could think of.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Ohnoki is as fast as a meteor. He can pretty well create a huge distance between him and Gaara and one shot him. Sorry.

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Given everyone in this thread agrees that there is no counter you should put your obvious trolling bias aside and accept the fact that Ohnoki would absolutely trash neg Gaara with the lowest of difficulty. :lol

Nothing but facts as always keep up the good work.

 

[Jiren]

Dodge no jutsu

 

[Made in Heaven]

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All I could think of.

That is some garbage tier cgi lmfao

 

[Alchemy9167]

That is some garbage tier cgi lmfao

I like how your sig is categorized by strength bro..

Hanabi > Hima > Hinata.

 

[DrProof]

Lmfao.

You must be registered for see images Gaara's Speed Gaara's many talents as a character is his speed, while not praised within the category, possessing a "3" in the Third Databook (note that speed in the Third Databook is regarding foot-speed), Gaara has beyond shown the capability to far out speed most of the speedsters we see within the Manga. Past Speed Feats (Before Pt.2) ✗. You must be registered for see links . You must be registered for see links ✗. Face to face with a bone impalement, Gaara nearly instantaneously formed a cloud of Sand underneath himself, and Lee before Kimimaro could take their lives. [ You must be registered for see links You must be registered for see links ]. Gaara even goes on to say it was an "easy" task, damn Gaara performing near-death saving moments is an easy task? That potential. Present Speed Feats (Pt.2) ✗. Sand-Shunshin to appear right before Deidara, while Deidara was literally looking in that direction (appeared simultaneously when Deidara's head tilted downward while jumping off his Clay Bird) [ You must be registered for see links You must be registered for see links ]. ✗. Gaara was able to quickly, and easily You must be registered for see links from Deidara's explosion, then transition -- You must be registered for see links , with a monstrous amount of sand. ✗. You must be registered for see links (Kishi indirectly implying Gaara > Onoki in flight speed). ✗. Gaara also has shown the capabilities of performing You must be registered for see links able to fool the Nidaime Mizukage You all get the jest, Gaara's speed seemingly increased rapidly over the course of Pt.1, and Pt.2. If you even argue that Ohnoki is faster than Gaara you are dense, and do not follow canon You must be registered for see links . You must be registered for see images Terrain Albeit formerly being a neutral terrain, Gaara effortlessly turns it into an You must be registered for see links one. Take into account a few things: I. Size II. Scenery III. Simplicity Overall, the location is A. humongous in size, Gaara has a whole forest + a field at his disposal & B. Every objects in sight can, and will be integrated into making more sand. Basically, Gaara turns You must be registered for see links -- into You must be registered for see links -- because of You must be registered for see links . Gaara would You must be registered for see links , then You must be registered for see links as well air. Take note that this was a Pt.1 Gaara who effortlessly created You must be registered for see links from said method. End result would be You must be registered for see links . You must be registered for see images Doton Any, and all Earth-based techniques Ohnoki performs as a way of offense/defense will be hard-countered. Literally, no idea why I'm even going to entertain this subject, but whatever. Previously stated: " You must be registered for see links ". So let's see 80% of Ohnoki's arsenal is Earth-based (aside from the supplementary techniques) with 20% being Jinton.. Ohnoki's Doton Jutsu ✗. Earth Release: Added-Weight Rock Technique ✗. Earth Release: Fist Rock Technique ✗. Earth Release: Golem Technique ✗. Earth Release: Light-Weight Rock Technique ✗. Earth Release: Moving Earth Core ✗. Earth Release: Ultra-Added-Weight Rock Technique ✗. Earth Release: Ultralight-Weight Rock Technique ✗. Rock Clone Technique That leaves Ohnoki with three techniques that are blatantly useless against Gaara, as they all get turned into an extra amount of sand, and before you say: "Oh, but the sand won't touch Ohnoki" wrong, the sand particles initially deployed from sand sensing does the trick effortlessly. Weight Rock Variations ✗. Requirement: Physical contact -- via You must be registered for see links . ✗. Unknown Factor - "I've made the sand around You must be registered for see links lighter -- unknown range regarding "here"; most plausible - the vicinity around Gaara, and Ohnoki -- no further & no shorter. ✗. Light - Using this technique on Gaara's sand, or the sand in general would be counterproductive -- Gaara's sand would be lightened, decreasing it's overall mass, but increasing its speed. Performing this technique would be a suicide attempt. Don't rely on this. ✗. Heavy - Ohnoki if he was to perform this variation would increase the overall mass of the sand, slowing it down. This would make the sand denser -- stronger at the cost of speed. Ultimately used to prolong his inevitable death. Once again, don't rely on this. Moving Earth Core Not going to address this -- If Ohnoki fought on the ground he'd have a lower chance of survival than he lacks now. You must be registered for see images Jinton Ah, the over-hyped technique. As impressive as it is, it's effortlessly countered by Gaara, and especially at this distance. Jinton has a few distinctive weaknesses: Weaknesses ✗. Stationary ✗. Casting Speed ✗. Chakra Taxing ✗. Pressure Above are the four main weaknesses , and/or flaws of Jinton. Other flaws may be present, but for now I'll capitalize on the four here. ✗. Stationary - Ohnoki, well as Mu have both shown to take on a You must be registered for see links position upon Jinton activation. ✗. Casting - Jinton is rather slow in build up, Mu; the best Jinton user, couldn't perform the technique within three panels. [ You must be registered for see links You must be registered for see links You must be registered for see links ] --Mu's statement here: " You must be registered for see links " implies Ohnoki was A: On top of them & B. Charging up Jinton. Further scans proving Jinton (atleast Ohnoki's) is slow. [ You must be registered for see links You must be registered for see links You must be registered for see links ] taking three panels to charge - solidify - clash. ✗. Chakra - Ohnoki stated after having his little tussle with Mu he didn't have enough You must be registered for see links to use Jinton, this shows Jinton has a taxing chakra cost, as well Ohnoki's chakra/stamina is average at best -- old age not helping the stamina scenario. Furthermore proving; Jinton takes -- Precision → Explaining stationary positioning -- High-Reserves of Chakra → Explaining Ohnoki's inefficient attempt to cast Jinton. ✗. Pressure - Take the above three categories, mix them all together, and you get a stationary, slow casting, chakra eating pest. Countering this immobile pest is easy, if you have at least one of the three below: ✓. Wide-Scale Jutsu ✓. Speed ✓. High Chakra Reserves Gaara has all three. Wide-Scale Terrain changing Sand jutsu -- Sand that is faster than Ohnoki's initial flight speed -- Chakra reserves dwarfing the Tsuchikage. That being established, Gaara puts these three categories together, and uses them in perfect unison. Wide-Scale Jutsu - Ohnoki has no where to run ↓​ Speed - Ohnoki cannot outmaneuver the Sand ↓​ High Chakra Reserves - Consistent pressure ↓​ Jinton hard-countered - Dead Ohnoki You must be registered for see images Death If you've followed since the beginning the end results are as shown: ☑. Gaara has deployed Sand Sensing -- Ground & Air sand-filled. ☑. You must be registered for see links is turned into a desert via Gaara's chakra + Sand Sensing deployment. ☑. Ohnoki is swarmed via You must be registered for see links -- Sand You must be registered for see links to Ohnoki -- You must be registered for see links . or​ ☑. You must be registered for see links envelopes Ohnoki. ☑. Ohnoki is attacked from You must be registered for see links . ☑. Ohnoki is outclassed, and dies. Many more scenarios can be applied. Extra Gaara possesses the capability to perform Wind Release, as Shukaku's chakra allowed him to do so: You must be registered for see links ✗. "Once it's ingrained you, you can't take anything away"- Kishimoto states that anything in which Shukaku has shown, and has in general is now, and forever will be in Gaara's position. ✗. "Not even Sand" - Kishimoto then goes on to add that in addition to the other abilities Shukaku possessed Sand is a major (and obvious) power that Gaara will never part with. Gaara, can utilize Shukaku's entire arsenal through his sand with the aid of Shukaku's chakra. Yes, Shukaku was completely extracted from Gaara back in Early Pt.2 however, Kishimoto blantalty stated Gaara still possesses a portion of the Ichibi's chakra. Gaara was born into this world a monster, through a You must be registered for see links which his Father, the Yondaime Kazekage applied on his Wife while she was pregnant with an Unborn-Gaara. This Jutsu allowed Shukaku to possess Kurara, as well an Unborn-Gaara seeping its chakra into both the Mother, and her unborn child: You must be registered for see links the mother -> Possessed the Child -> Chakra Bestowed upon Both -> Mother Dies, but before Death conjoins her chakra into Son -> Untouched Mixture of Her Chakra & The Ichibi's: You must be registered for see links Hence why her "Will" or "Love" allows her to set-up an Auto-Defense for Gaara, due to the enhanced Chakra of the Ichibi. The Ichibi is said to give a person Insomnia, Karura is in the form of Chakra within Gaara's Sand, The Sand never sleeps due to Shukaku's side-effects thus, Karura's chakra can never take a break, and will always respond against Gaara's will; Auto Defense is caused via Shukaku's Insomnia side-effect affecting Karura's chakra. Furthermore proof: ✗. Gaara still possesses a portion of the You must be registered for see links -- Kishimoto validated this statement - Manga & Interview End Point ✗. Gaara can use Wind Release ✗. You must be registered for see links - Through his mouth ✗. You must be registered for see links - Sand application - Wind application through mouth With this, Gaara effortlessly restricts Ohnoki's movement, and kills him. You must be registered for see images ☑. Opening Post ☑. One Post Left ☑. Tbh Ohnoki You must be registered for see links himself

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

Jinton cant be blocked , so there is no counter