what is "combat speed"

[KCMNaruto]

Foot speed - your movement when don't fight, just try to get some location.
Combat speed/striking speed - movement while in battle. In most of cases it is Combination of Foot speed and Reaction time/swiftness.
Reaction time - how fast you can move your muscles even slightly moving your all body while dodging/evading something or also while attacking. In most of cases it is combined with foot speed known as combat speed.
Sunshin - short burst of chakra allowing character to speedblits/moves very fast in short time.
Teleportation/Space time Ninjutsu - moving from point A to point B in no time.

 

[Osagyefo]

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So striking speed and combat speed are the same...

 

[Lucidus]

Combat speed is the speed you can perform your techniques at.. its not the same as foot speed or anything like that..

Combat speed comes down to striking speed and reaction speed and such..

its how fast your techniques can be completed ect..

things like this

 

[ShiroT]

Foot speed - your movement when don't fight, just try to get some location.
Combat speed/striking speed - movement while in battle. In most of cases it is Combination of Foot speed and Reaction time/swiftness.
Reaction time - how fast you can move your muscles even slightly moving your all body while dodging/evading something or also while attacking. In most of cases it is combined with foot speed known as combat speed.
Sunshin - short burst of chakra allowing character to speedblits/moves very fast in short time.
Teleportation/Space time Ninjutsu - moving from point A to point B in no time.

thats not what im understanding .. . .

logically ay v2 should be the best in all of that (besides s/t) so how could someone else(pre-juubito) have better combat speed then him? only exceptions being kcm naruto and 7 gates guy

 

[Kαmi]

so. pre juubi, ay v2 should have the highest combat speed second to naruto right? since ay has the fastest striking speed and movement speed right(not to mention arguably the best reflexes)?

That's a close close, I almost want to say Minato since Minato has the best reflexes prior Juubi arc. Casually dodging Ay and making a fool out of Obito were some of the best feats. The only reason why I wouldn't say Minato for sure is because he has questionable striking speed. Itachi is also somebody who has good body speed. And Naruto going from base to SM shows improved body speed.

 

[Tsukikami Uchiha]

Their speed during a fight, i.e, taijutsu, handseals, shuriken, kenjutsu, reflexes..

 

[ShiroT]

That's a close close, I almost want to say Minato since Minato has the best reflexes prior Juubi arc. Casually dodging Ay and making a fool out of Obito were some of the best feats. The only reason why I wouldn't say Minato for sure is because he has questionable striking speed. Itachi is also somebody who has good body speed. And Naruto going from base to SM shows improved body speed.

so for the sake of this thread(and not to start a war) naruto (arguable) in kcm has the fastest striking speed(due to him overall being the fastest), reflexes, and foot speed. shouldnt he have the best combat speed then? s/t ninjutsu excluded.

with this shouldnt naruto's combat speed > sasuke, 7 gates guy, ay, etc.? or am I not understanding something.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

I swear nobody actually says these things, people ask why others do to make a thread. I've never heard someone say "combat speed" in my whole five years on this site...

 

[KCMNaruto]

thats not what im understanding .. . .

logically ay v2 should be the best in all of that (besides s/t) so how could someone else(pre-juubito) have better combat speed then him? only exceptions being kcm naruto and 7 gates guy

who do you mean ?

Obito has beast reaction time, but his foot speed was worse then A even if impressive. However beast reaction time in combination with Kamui was OP.

Madara, he has shown great reaction time as well... even although he lacked speed to keep up with A, but he used it well.

 

[ShiroT]

I swear nobody actually says these things, people ask why others do to make a thread. I've never heard someone say "combat speed" in my whole five years on this site...

i've been seeing it all this week maybe you should get on more because everybody else in this thread knows what im talking about.

look at that thread you missed today

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Lol

 

[ShiroT]

who do you mean ?

Obito has beast reaction time, but his foot speed was worse then A even if impressive. However beast reaction time in combination with Kamui was OP.

Madara, he has shown great reaction time as well... even although he lacked speed to keep up with A, but he used it well.

well ok sure not the best reflexes, but ay v2 should be the best overall right? or maybe kcm naruto?

 

[KCMNaruto]

well ok sure not the best reflexes, but ay v2 should be the best overall right? or maybe kcm naruto?

KCM Naruto > a v2.

However BSM Naruto pre Rikudou power excluding any Juubi powers is the fastest overall

 

[ShiroT]

KCM Naruto > a v2.

However BSM Naruto pre Rikudou power excluding any Juubi powers is the fastest overall

so how can someone like ms/ems sasuke have the best combat speed

 

[KCMNaruto]

so how can someone like ms/ems sasuke have the best combat speed

Lol, because fanboys claim so, and most of people agree.

However EMS Sasuke has great sunshin and thanks to precognition combined with special tomoe called straight comma allowed him to see attack from distance and in slow motion. Sasuke can anticipate attack so he has time to react and prepare.

 

[ShiroT]

Lol, because fanboys claim so, and most of people agree.

However EMS Sasuke has great sunshin and thanks to precognition combined with special tomoe called straight comma allowed him to see attack from distance and in slow motion. Sasuke can anticipate attack so he has time to react and prepare.

but taking the definition everyone has given minato should be better then him in that regard (reacting to point blank v2 blitz) Lol

 

[Sir Cool Blizzard]

Bruce lee has faster combat speed than Usain Bolt.....U get it now!!
Combat speed depends on reflexes, reactions, striking speed and no. of consecutive hits!! U_U

 

[paratise]

It is the difference between the boxer and the runner.

Runner travels faster than the boxer, but if they had a fight, he neither can not land hits to boxer nor evade them as much as boxer does to him.

Simple as that. I dunno why it confuses people by this much unless they think athletes can beat the shit out of martial artists by simply being faster.

 

[ShiroT]

It is the difference between the boxer and the runner.

Runner travels faster than the boxer, but if they had a fight, he neither can not land hits to boxer nor evade them as much as boxer does to him.

Simple as that. I dunno why it confuses people by this much unless they think athletes can beat the shit out of martial artists by simply being faster.

it confuses people when users say some is faster then ay v2 in combat when they wasnt shown to be faster

 

[KCMNaruto]

but taking the definition everyone has given minato should be better then him in that regard (reacting to point blank v2 blitz) Lol

Yes just pure Reaction time, Minato is better.

However Sasuke ems's straight tomoe seeing fuild movement + precognition gives Sasuke's image of attack in slow motion. This + Sasuke's reaction time could put Sasuke above or on part with Minato's reaction time.

Sasuke's foot speed > Minato's foot speed
Minato's sunshin > Sasuke's sunshin
Current Sasuke's teleportation = FTG

 

[lanakui8]

from what i see, combat speed is basically a person's non-shunshin speed, or speed they consistently use in combat.