[Question] What if?

[24 12 11 to troll]

Law can just bring some fodder and do the swap personality thing w/ mingo

So why is it that you detest it being done with Bellamy? It makes little difference as the original argument was: "plot reasons cus we can't argue, we just don't like the sound of it happening, so lets just say Laws fruit is nerfed (even though it isn't, as it's the "ultimate")"

 

[~Kami no Itachi~]

So why is it that you detest it being done with Bellamy? It makes little difference as the original argument was: "plot reasons cus we can't argue, we just don't like the sound of it happening, so lets just say Laws fruit is nerfed (even though it isn't, as it's the "ultimate")"

I didn't detest I'm not even the guy you're talking too XD

even though it isn't

It is

 

[Punk Hazard]

Than why has he not switched Doflamingo with a rock underwater?
Are u implying Oda is some noob writer ? Cause it sure as hell looks that way

The same reason they didn't just kill Ace right away, rather than waiting for Whitebeard to show up.
The same reason Kizaru shot the key in Luffy's hand, rather than Luffy's head or heart
The same reason Kizaru and Aokiji just let Law and co. go after one attack each
The same reason Kizaru didn't stomp Zoro right away
The same reason Kizaru didn't just use Yasaka no Magatama on the Strawhats
The same reason Rayleigh sliced Kizaru's Yata no Kagami path, rather than slicing Kizaru's head or his body
The same reason Kizaru intercepted Luffy by kicking him into a building, rather than Akainu intercepting him by driving a magma fist through is chest/throat/head, or Kuzan by freezing him, then smashing him to pieces

 

[Hexuze]

That would be the most efficient way to defeat Doffy but I doubt Oda would resort to a defeat like that with all the build-up we've had thus far. I'm not sure if it'd work on someone as skilled as Doffy either. (Doffy can counter it prob.)

 

[silmarill]

The same reason they didn't just kill Ace right away, rather than waiting for Whitebeard to show up.
The same reason Kizaru shot the key in Luffy's hand, rather than Luffy's head or heart
The same reason Kizaru and Aokiji just let Law and co. go after one attack each
The same reason Kizaru didn't stomp Zoro right away
The same reason Kizaru didn't just use Yasaka no Magatama on the Strawhats
The same reason Rayleigh sliced Kizaru's Yata no Kagami path, rather than slicing Kizaru's head or his body
The same reason Kizaru intercepted Luffy by kicking him into a building, rather than Akainu intercepting him by driving a magma fist through is chest/throat/head, or Kuzan by freezing him, then smashing him to pieces

I don't seem to understand why are u bringing up ace's execution.
They scheduled Ace's execution for a certain date. There are certain rules. Like the time it took to gather all the marines
Sengoku most likely wanted everyone of his subordinates there when he told them who Ace his father was. They can't just kill him. arrangements have to be made. It's the same as in our world.
Someone on death row has to wait before he gets killed to
Kizaru shooting the key or not killing Zoro has nothing to do with plot. it is a character trait of him to be lazy and uninterested and just in general be a troll is his persona. Not everyone is Akainu.
Aokiji and Kizaru maybe thought there was no way Law's submarine could have survived that?
Kizaru already witnessed first hand how fodder all supernova were so imo he just thought . Ok they are done
Is it that hard to believe Doflamingo is just stronger than Law? Does it nag u that friggin much so u have to blame plot restriction for it?

 

[Punk Hazard]

I don't seem to understand why are u bringing up ace's execution.
They scheduled Ace's execution for a certain date. There are certain rules. Like the time it took to gather all the marines
Sengoku most likely wanted everyone of his subordinates there when he told them who Ace his father was. They can't just kill him. arrangements have to be made. It's the same as in our world.
Someone on death row has to wait before he gets killed to
Kizaru shooting the key or not killing Zoro has nothing to do with plot. it is a character trait of him to be lazy and uninterested and just in general be a troll is his persona. Not everyone is Akainu.
Aokiji and Kizaru maybe thought there was no way Law's submarine could have survived that?
Kizaru already witnessed first hand how fodder all supernova were so imo he just thought . Ok they are done

The point of my post is that there have been times when a character took one course of action, when an obviously better course of action was available to them. All of those scenarios I have listed have a course of action that was taken, and a course of action that would have been better.

Kizaru being lazy does not justify it. Oda made Kizaru lazy, he wasn't handed the character and was forced to write him that way. Oda chose to make Kizaru lazy so he'd have an excuse as to why Kizaru didn't just shoot Luffy in the head. But it actually doesn't excuse it because we've seen Kizaru shooting Luffy and shooting others to kill.

Things like "They had a schedule for Ace's execution" doesn't justify anything either. Them having a schedule is just a convenient plot-induced excuse for Oda to say if someone says "Why didn't they just execute Ace right away?"

The fact of the matter is, while people say "Oh it's plot!" far too often, fiction is littered with cases where a character did something that was blatantly less favorable than another course of action simply because the author needed them to in order to further the plot. All of the scenarios I listed are examples of this.

 

[silmarill]

The point of my post is that there have been times when a character took one course of action, when an obviously better course of action was available to them. All of those scenarios I have listed have a course of action that was taken, and a course of action that would have been better.

Kizaru being lazy does not justify it. Oda made Kizaru lazy, he wasn't handed the character and was forced to write him that way. Oda chose to make Kizaru lazy so he'd have an excuse as to why Kizaru didn't just shoot Luffy in the head. But it actually doesn't excuse it because we've seen Kizaru shooting Luffy and shooting others to kill.

Things like "They had a schedule for Ace's execution" doesn't justify anything either. Them having a schedule is just a convenient plot-induced excuse for Oda to say if someone says "Why didn't they just execute Ace right away?"

The fact of the matter is, while people say "Oh it's plot!" far too often, fiction is littered with cases where a character did something that was blatantly less favorable than another course of action simply because the author needed them to in order to further the plot. All of the scenarios I listed are examples of this.

The alternative scenario's u posted have a certain realism to them. Meaning it is indeed not to far fetched to happen
However Law switching Doffy with a rock and basically fodderizing him is just completely illogical as Oda established the gap in powerscaling and has demonstrated the difference between Doffy and top tier Supernova a few times now
So the way Oda has shown Doffy's strength vastly outweighs any alternative scenario Law could use on Doffy

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

That would be the most efficient way to defeat Doffy but I doubt Oda would resort to a defeat like that with all the build-up we've had thus far. I'm not sure if it'd work on someone as skilled as Doffy either. (Doffy can counter it prob.)

How would you counter it?

 

[silmarill]

If you choose to look at it that way. However, this makes no sense. You say Doffy is so far ahead of Luffy and Law in brute power, that in order to defeat him, they'd have to do something clever with their powers, such as Law placing Doffy underwater using Shambles, but his superiority in brute power makes that impossible? LOL what?

So u think the better route to go by was ? Law arriving in Dressrosa and one shot roll up Doffy with this laughable scenario and than what? proceed to roll up the other Yonko crews? U know what that would be? sh!t writing

 

[Punk Hazard]

The alternative scenario's u posted have a certain realism to them. Meaning it is indeed not to far fetched to happen
However Law switching Doffy with a rock and basically fodderizing him is just completely illogical as Oda established the gap in powerscaling and has demonstrated the difference between Doffy and top tier Supernova a few times now
So the way Oda has shown Doffy's strength vastly outweighs any alternative scenario Law could use on Doffy

LOL this makes no sense. Doffy is so far ahead of Luffy and Law in brute power, they can't just pummel him with brute force. Meaning that they'd have to do something clever with their powers to defeat him. Law switching him with something underwater is a perfect example of using their powers cleverly to defeat Doffy, since brute force won't work.

You're basically saying Law and Luffy can't defeat Doffy with brute force because Doffy is just too far ahead of them, but when someone presents the alternative that isn't brute force, you say no to that too. If we had it your way, Doffy's never getting defeated by Law and Luffy in any way whatsoever.

Your problem is that you're simply underestimating the difficulty of pulling off this maneuver. You think it's as simple as just "rolling up to Dressrosa" and switching him into the water. I wonder who said it was that simple.

 

[Hexuze]

How would you counter it?

Haki .

 

[silmarill]

LOL this makes no sense. Doffy is so far ahead of Luffy and Law in brute power, they can't just pummel him with brute force. Meaning that they'd have to do something clever with their powers to defeat him. Law switching him with something underwater is a perfect example of using their powers cleverly to defeat Doffy, since brute force won't work.

You're basically saying Law and Luffy can't defeat Doffy with brute force because Doffy is just too far ahead of them, but when someone presents the alternative that isn't brute force, you say no to that too. If we had it your way, Doffy's never getting defeated by Law and Luffy in any way whatsoever.

Your problem is that you're simply underestimating the difficulty of pulling off this maneuver. You think it's as simple as just "rolling up to Dressrosa" and switching him into the water. I wonder who said it was that simple.

WDoffy is certainly not that much stronger with brute force. He is just to witty, to fast. An elephant gatling would leave him crippled. But the chance a non gear 2 technique connects is non existent
I'm sorry but maybe u did not read some posts in this thread of a certain 'kami no wank fap itachi sama' who said it would be so simple for Law to go there and roll up Doffy just like that *pouf* . Wasn't that basically the whole point of this. To refute this nonsecal scenario
Sure his power could work if their are certain distractions like Luffy or some other fighter. I agree than it could work. but alone he will not pull of a stunt like that
That's exactly the point he did not went alone and let Luffy come with him ?...

 

[Punk Hazard]

WDoffy is certainly not that much stronger with brute force. He is just to witty, to fast. An elephant gatling would leave him crippled. But the chance a non gear 2 technique connects is non existent
I'm sorry but maybe u did not read some posts in this thread of a certain 'kami no wank fap itachi sama' who said it would be so simple for Law to go there and roll up Doffy just like that *pouf* . Wasn't that basically the whole point of this. To refute this nonsecal scenario
Sure his power could work if their are certain distractions like Luffy or some other fighter. I agree than it could work. but alone he will not pull of a stunt like that

Damn, if only this fight was Law and Luffy vs Doflamingo then. What was Law thinking going up against Doffy alone. You know what he should have done? A pirate alliance. Oda, the **** were you thinking not going with that?

 

[OG sama]

Law is just haxed as all hell. Lets just leave it at that, op op no me is right.

 

[kageking]

I haven't waited this long to see Mingo get beaten by some hax trick. I want a full on Lucci v Luffy level slug fest. Oda probably incapacitated law for this very reason.