What if tobi ordered pein to atk konoha during the time when itachi was alive?

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Its safe to say that obito waited for itachi to die, maybe he knew not to underestimate itachi thats why he waited for him to die.
Im just saying what do you guys think will happen? Theres no way that itachi would just sit around, itachi knew that obito was the real leader of the akatsuki so maybe he will go to him or pein. Maybe itachi will die and send a information to konoha before it happens. Or obito go first.
 

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Itachi is likely an entity that Obito feared to battle engage personally implying that he required the acquisition and assimilation of an external figure to potentially trounce Pain hence it makes sense that he employed the latter to likely stand a chance against the magnificent battle force ie., Itachi.

However victory isn't set in stone as his acolyte (Pain) lacks the physical or magical battle features to efficiently defeat a battle demon like Itachi who could implicitly telepathically trounce 80,000x+ shinobi by Shikaku's magnificent brilliant IQ implication, the physical power battle features to physically exchange equality against KCM Naruto, DSM Kabuto and Killer Bee who defeated V1+ Ei in a CQC simulation.

Hence it's likely that Itachi couldn't have been cannonically defeated by Pain or Obito.
 

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Itachi is likely an entity that Obito feared to battle engage personally implying that he required the acquisition and assimilation of an external figure to potentially trounce Pain hence it makes sense that he employed the latter to likely stand a chance against the magnificent battle force ie., Itachi.

However victory isn't set in stone as his acolyte (Pain) lacks the physical or magical battle features to efficiently defeat a battle demon like Itachi who could implicitly telepathically trounce 80,000x+ shinobi by Shikaku's magnificent brilliant IQ implication, the physical power battle features to physically exchange equality against KCM Naruto, DSM Kabuto and Killer Bee who defeated V1+ Ei in a CQC simulation.

Hence it's likely that Itachi couldn't have been cannonically defeated by Pain or Obito.
obito wasn't true mastermind badass tobi...it was madara...and im sick and tired of correcting you guyz..
 
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He already did. He ordered Pain to obtain Nine Tails right after Sasuke defeated Deidara. C
End of chapter 363.
I'd say that he was likely privy to the fact that Itachi was gonna orchestrate his demise against Sasuke like he himself implied when he casually elucidated his thoughts with Black Zetsu. There exists additional implications that he waited primarily for +16yrs of repressing his mental thoughts on acquiring Naruto, Kyūbi and Sasuke primarily due to Itachi's physical presence in the organisation and the fact that he'd have to physically fight Itachi if he preemptively bypassed the verbal trade-off that they had back when Obito infiltrated the leaf with Kurama to fight Minato.
 
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I'd say that he was likely privy to the fact that Itachi was gonna orchestrate his demise against Sasuke like he himself implied when he casually elucidated his thoughts with Black Zetsu. There exists additional implications that he waited primarily for +16yrs of repressing his mental thoughts on acquiring Naruto, Kyūbi and Sasuke primarily due to Itachi's physical presence in the organisation and the fact that he'd have to physically fight Itachi if he preemptively bypassed the verbal trade-off that they had back when Obito infiltrated the leaf with Kurama to fight Minato.
Sure, but he didn't know how long it would take for Sasuke to recover and exactly when he would head out.
 

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Sure, but he didn't know how long it would take for Sasuke to recover and exactly when he would head out.
Itachi likely possessed lethal information pertaining the Akatsuki and likely possessed the power to physically manifest that lethality of information to reality hence Obito consistently displaying extreme duress regarding matters pertaining Itachi and his associated abilities which makes sense if we instill logicality in the cannonical transpiration of certain key legitimately mind boggling events.

Obito never physically displayed his faciality and characteristic demeanor when faced against Itachi and generally being in his physical presence proximity that's a key notation aspect that implicitly alludes to the readers that he, plentifully feared the mental prospect of approaching and physically scuffling in an extended battlefield simulation VS Itachi, a key aspect of this point being that one couldn't possibly produce a logical counteract debate point against the substantiation that has been extrapolated prior as there exists explicitly 0 legitimate substantiation arguable that exists in the manga that logically penetrates and bypasses the scheme of events that Obito chose to willfully manifest in the grand scheme of things in this manga. Hence I'd say that it's fairly clear that Obito explicitly feared the grandiose prospect of fighting Itachi.

Kyūbi Naruto & CS2 3T Sasuke would've been explicitly extremely lauded entities as it pertains to battle simulations as thier abilities are magnificent enough to physically tackle the likes of Deidara who was physically capable of outspeeding the likes of P2 Team Gai, that comprised of 2 elite speedsters like Lee and Gai, one extremely magnificent CQC Hyuga Secret Arts Style martial artist practitioner like Hyuga Neji, one near 360 degrees omnidirectional spree weapon flicker artist like Ten Ten, and he physically outspeeded and outright outdid mentally all 4 without the slightest glimpse of difficulty without access to both of his arms (one ripped of by Kamui, the other ripped of by KN0 Naruto), and Pain praised him personally in the physical presence of 3 key entities of the organisation (Itachi, Black Zetsu, and Kisame) as being a uniquely exceptional shinobi subsequently after his death at Hebi Sasuke's hands apparently and he (Obito) could've physically infiltrated and snatched a Kid Sasuke well below his prime under Hiruzen's nose who couldn't even physically detect or penetrate the facial superficiality of the Sound 5 Kazekage facade of his intimate student in Orochimaru and the entire whole leaf wouldn't even detect an afterthought of that happening prior to him successfully approaching and placing Kid Sasuke well deep innard his secluded secret hideout. The only reason that can be logically extrapolated on such an atrocious happening not transpiring is likely attributed and intrinsically linked to Itachi's explicit interference on the matter and I believe that much is fairly clear.

Additionally pertaining the question that you've proposed, I think that Itachi's battle instincts have extremely exceptionally advanced to such a quality degree that he can physically anticipate and detect the extremely subtle mental tremor nuances of the opposition with such crystal clear accuracy that he could physically anticipate and vividly imagine Obito's magnificent plans that partly comprised of manipulating an emaciated Nagato on spiritually manifesting a Rinne Tensei lifeforce technique on him to tangentially revitalize and manifest EMS Hashirama Cells assimilated prime Madara Uchiha out of his Uchiha monument coffin and spiritually grabbing Sasuke by mentally convincing and tricking him into believing that approaching and being physically repressed onto the criminal organization was what Itachi truly, and vehemently wanted of like he (Itachi) explicitly strategically orchestrated the Uchiha shrine monument battle into literal obscurity ie., he manifested his plans of applying his secret ideology on the populace, and the alteration of thier minds into believing and making Sasuke out to be a hero and successfully defeating his antagonist criminal brother to the point that his name itself was literally whitewashed as an likely incarnation of evil.
 
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Alive Itachi has no chance against Obito orange masked or Pain.
In middle Shipuden he was sick.

Itachi is enough smart to understand how works Pain and Kamui, but he needs the necessary stamina to beat them.

Obito can counter Amaterasu with Kamui, and it's not an elite Uchiha such as Obito who would be traped into Tsukyomi. + Orange masked obito can use one izanagi like he did against Konan.

Against Pain it's a no match. Itachi was too sick to endure a fight against 6 Pain avatars. At least, he would kill 3 or 4 avatars, but Tendô would finish him.

Sick Itachi can't use Susano too long also.

But a Prime Itachi without sickness, it is another story, but here we are talking about a middle shippude Itachi, so this is the context.
 

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Alive Itachi has no chance against Obito orange masked or Pain.
In middle Shipuden he was sick.

Itachi is enough smart to understand how works Pain and Kamui, but he needs the necessary stamina to beat them.

Obito can counter Amaterasu with Kamui, and it's not an elite Uchiha such as Obito who would be traped into Tsukyomi. + Orange masked obito can use one izanagi like he did against Konan.

Against Pain it's a no match. Itachi was too sick to endure a fight against 6 Pain avatars. At least, he would kill 3 or 4 avatars, but Tendô would finish him.

Sick Itachi can't use Susano too long also.

But a Prime Itachi without sickness, it is another story, but here we are talking about a middle shippude Itachi, so this is the context.
tobi true identity is madara..he was itachi partner and sensei...whereas obito was fodder naive tobi who couldn't even defeat kakatshi during 4 shinobi war...
 

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Itachi would have warned the village and they would have prepared a counter attack ahead of time.

It is likely that Itachi himself would have joined the fight, or he may have used his tools to kill some of their weaker targets and so kill their tailed beast within them, stalling Akatsuki for many years and giving the rest of the world a chance to prepare against them
 
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I never bought Obito fearing Itachi because he would lose a fight or that he was the weaker Shinobi but rather his insight was to be feared, The manga eludes to Itachi being one to be cautious of, He's perfectly observant and for that nature a person is very dangerous.

Itachi could have utilized an opportunity to foil Obito if he stayed alive that's rather the point of his reluctance to take him lightly.
 
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