[Predictions] what if this ends in a davy back fight?

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Just a thought that even if sanji does marry her they can challenge big mom for him and jimbe as well as her flag if they want. Big mom has too much prode to refuse any challenge from someone who is ligitamtely strong like luffy.
 

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Funny question. I wonder if it happened. Imagining Big-Mom challenging Luffy in DBF (Davy Back Fight), and Sanji sitting there like a price/reward. That would be funny, creepy and bizzare.
 

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There is no pride in accepting a davy back fight with what is in your eyes a mediocre arrogant crew. Davy back fights are held between crews of similar levels, not when there's a big difference. From Big Mom's point of view accepting such a competition with the Strawhats would be so ludicrous it would hurt her pride.
 

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There is no pride in accepting a davy back fight with what is in your eyes a mediocre arrogant crew. Davy back fights are held between crews of similar levels, not when there's a big difference. From Big Mom's point of view accepting such a competition with the Strawhats would be so ludicrous it would hurt her pride.
I mean, she accepted war with Luffy, so would this really be much of a difference?
 

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I mean, she accepted war with Luffy, so would this really be much of a difference?
Yes because to her this supposed 'war' you're talking about is nothing more than a one-sided annihilation of an arrogant crew. She's a pirate, a Yonkou, and hence everyone who dares to bare their fangs at her will be put down as that's what it means to be a pirate and what people expect her to do. She is obliged to kick down everyone who threatens her, she however is not obliged to accept a ludicrous request of what is in her eyes just yet another crew with a big mouth. If there would be people in the Strawhats she wants, she can just take them. She herself said it once that they're pirates, they take what they want. Accepting a Davy Back fight is accepting that the opposing crew is equal to hers.

Otherwise she would be forced to accept any kind of challenge, no matter how trashy the opposing crew is. If someone insults a Yonkou or becomes violent on their territory, they have no choice to put them down regardless of who it is, but they really don't need to bother with redundant challenges of lesser crews.
 

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That would be cool. And to caliburn, the Davy back fight would be the same thing to her as the war, something insignificant because they are the more powerful crew. And it might be tempting for her to humiliate luffy by taking all his crew away.
 

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Yes because to her this supposed 'war' you're talking about is nothing more than a one-sided annihilation of an arrogant crew. She's a pirate, a Yonkou, and hence everyone who dares to bare their fangs at her will be put down as that's what it means to be a pirate and what people expect her to do. She is obliged to kick down everyone who threatens her, she however is not obliged to accept a ludicrous request of what is in her eyes just yet another crew with a big mouth. If there would be people in the Strawhats she wants, she can just take them. She herself said it once that they're pirates, they take what they want. Accepting a Davy Back fight is accepting that the opposing crew is equal to hers.

Otherwise she would be forced to accept any kind of challenge, no matter how trashy the opposing crew is. If someone insults a Yonkou or becomes violent on their territory, they have no choice to put them down regardless of who it is, but they really don't need to bother with redundant challenges of lesser crews.
Davy back fights are more seriois than a simple fight. Giant crews have refused to fight mounmountain bandits. And they we yonko but if you read below scans you see that zoro and sanji refuse to be seen as cowards.
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Davy back fights are more seriois than a simple fight. Giant crews have refused to fight mounmountain bandits. And they we yonko but if you read below scans you see that zoro and sanji refuse to be seen as cowards.
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They are only serious if the challenges are accepted and are between crews of the same level, otherwise they're a fallacy. Once accepted then of course it becomes serious as then you are running the risk to lose your flag and members of your crew, that is if you can actually lose. If you can't lose because the differences are too large, well then it's all a joke and a waste of time. Why would you want the flag of a crew you can annihilate in an instant and take their flag to wipe your ass with? Why would you want members of what you deem to be a mediocre crew? Why would you even bother trying to get new crew members in such a way when you already have one of the most powerful pirate crews in existence the likes of which many pirates would die for to be a part of?

I don't know why you are talking about giants, mountain bandits and Yonkou in such an incoherent way, but the pages you are trying to post are invalidating your own statements. Zoro didn't know what Davy Back fights were and he was always competitive by nature. Don't forget that he is a swordsman who became a pirate and don't confuse the inherent characteristics of one or two persons to be representative for the entire pirate population. The Strawhats are also an atypical crew who have grown a reputation of being weird and nuts. It's also clearly shown that other Strawhats, like Usopp and Nami, were completely against it and it's also clearly emphasized that the entire point of these fights are to get members of other crews, however that both captains have to agree to it. If your captain has no interest in the opposing crew, why accept?

Big Mum accepting a DB fight challenge is the same thing as Real Madrid accepting a match against some rural amateur team that plays once a week on a potato field for the title of the best team in the world. You can't possibly take such a match seriously and it would be flat out ridiculous to accept such a challenge in the first place.

You seem to be completely forgetting that these are pirates we are talking about, not some chivalrous knights who hold honor, respect, pride and integrity as the virtues that define their entire being. Big Mum said it herself: "Have you gone braindead Tamago? How dare you even speak such a shameful preposition?! Are you suggesting a pirate accepts a compromise in exchange for something they want?!" This was Big Mum's reaction on Tamago suggesting to trade the Strawhats treasure in exchange for the sweets they ate. Does this look like the type of person that's going to accept DB fights with everyone?
 

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They are only serious if the challenges are accepted and are between crews of the same level, otherwise they're a fallacy. Once accepted then of course it becomes serious as then you are running the risk to lose your flag and members of your crew, that is if you can actually lose. If you can't lose because the differences are too large, well then it's all a joke and a waste of time. Why would you want the flag of a crew you can annihilate in an instant and take their flag to wipe your ass with? Why would you want members of what you deem to be a mediocre crew? Why would you even bother trying to get new crew members in such a way when you already have one of the most powerful pirate crews in existence the likes of which many pirates would die for to be a part of?

I don't know why you are talking about giants, mountain bandits and Yonkou in such an incoherent way, but the pages you are trying to post are invalidating your own statements. Zoro didn't know what Davy Back fights were and he was always competitive by nature. Don't forget that he is a swordsman who became a pirate and don't confuse the inherent characteristics of one or two persons to be representative for the entire pirate population. The Strawhats are also an atypical crew who have grown a reputation of being weird and nuts. It's also clearly shown that other Strawhats, like Usopp and Nami, were completely against it and it's also clearly emphasized that the entire point of these fights are to get members of other crews, however that both captains have to agree to it. If your captain has no interest in the opposing crew, why accept?

Big Mum accepting a DB fight challenge is the same thing as Real Madrid accepting a match against some rural amateur team that plays once a week on a potato field for the title of the best team in the world. You can't possibly take such a match seriously and it would be flat out ridiculous to accept such a challenge in the first place.

You seem to be completely forgetting that these are pirates we are talking about, not some chivalrous knights who hold honor, respect, pride and integrity as the virtues that define their entire being. Big Mum said it herself: "Have you gone braindead Tamago? How dare you even speak such a shameful preposition?! Are you suggesting a pirate accepts a compromise in exchange for something they want?!" This was Big Mum's reaction on Tamago suggesting to trade the Strawhats treasure in exchange for the sweets they ate. Does this look like the type of person that's going to accept DB fights with everyone?
I guess youre right but i was refering to shanks in chapter one. A yonko letting someone get over on him but shanks wouldnt let someone take his flag
 

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They are only serious if the challenges are accepted and are between crews of the same level, otherwise they're a fallacy. Once accepted then of course it becomes serious as then you are running the risk to lose your flag and members of your crew, that is if you can actually lose. If you can't lose because the differences are too large, well then it's all a joke and a waste of time. Why would you want the flag of a crew you can annihilate in an instant and take their flag to wipe your ass with? Why would you want members of what you deem to be a mediocre crew? Why would you even bother trying to get new crew members in such a way when you already have one of the most powerful pirate crews in existence the likes of which many pirates would die for to be a part of?

I don't know why you are talking about giants, mountain bandits and Yonkou in such an incoherent way, but the pages you are trying to post are invalidating your own statements. Zoro didn't know what Davy Back fights were and he was always competitive by nature. Don't forget that he is a swordsman who became a pirate and don't confuse the inherent characteristics of one or two persons to be representative for the entire pirate population. The Strawhats are also an atypical crew who have grown a reputation of being weird and nuts. It's also clearly shown that other Strawhats, like Usopp and Nami, were completely against it and it's also clearly emphasized that the entire point of these fights are to get members of other crews, however that both captains have to agree to it. If your captain has no interest in the opposing crew, why accept?

Big Mum accepting a DB fight challenge is the same thing as Real Madrid accepting a match against some rural amateur team that plays once a week on a potato field for the title of the best team in the world. You can't possibly take such a match seriously and it would be flat out ridiculous to accept such a challenge in the first place.

You seem to be completely forgetting that these are pirates we are talking about, not some chivalrous knights who hold honor, respect, pride and integrity as the virtues that define their entire being. Big Mum said it herself: "Have you gone braindead Tamago? How dare you even speak such a shameful preposition?! Are you suggesting a pirate accepts a compromise in exchange for something they want?!" This was Big Mum's reaction on Tamago suggesting to trade the Strawhats treasure in exchange for the sweets they ate. Does this look like the type of person that's going to accept DB fights with everyone?
Luffy isnt just anyone anymore. He just defeated one of her 3 commanders. He has also pissed her off before and is proving to be a rather stubborn nuisance and not one she can just walk over as usual. Cracker thought luffy to be a nobody and gave him a whole talk on how luffy was in over his head but luffy completely proved him wrong. The same for big mam. The yonkou think they are untouchable but they really aren't and given the most recent events and what may happen throughout the rest of this arc, I would say luffy will prove himself a worthy foe.
 

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Davy back fights are more seriois than a simple fight. Giant crews have refused to fight mounmountain bandits. And they we yonko but if you read below scans you see that zoro and sanji refuse to be seen as cowards.
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Lmaooo you tried.
 
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