What if the Kinkaku Force was Akatsuki Level?

[deva pein]

Most of you guys Tobirama is a random fodder because he lost to 20 shinobi of which 18 are unknown. But if they are Akatsuki level, than even Madara or Hashirama can't take 20 of them.
So Tobirama is not a fodder because he died to 2+18 nameless shinobi.

He is the BOSS

 

[PredictionGuru]

probably but I don't think that kishi will explain it

 

[Hell Autarch]

Yeah I think so too.
The 3rd Raikage probably died to 100 Akatsuki level shinobi too.

 

[deva pein]

Yeah I think so too.
The 3rd Raikage probably died to 100 Akatsuki level shinobi too.

I don't think so. It was stated he took on an army for three days and nights before collapsing. I don't think there are even 100 akatsuki level shinobi. That's overkill.

 

[deva pein]

probably but I don't think that kishi will explain it

I think he will. He is going to give Tobirama some character development too.

 

[YellowFang]

I won't say Akatsuki but A/S-class shinobi...
That's also pretty much though... so yes Tobirama is not a fodder!

 

[Hell Autarch]

I don't think so. It was stated he took on an army for three days and nights before collapsing. I don't think there are even 100 akatsuki level shinobi. That's overkill.

I don't remember any 18 Akatsuki level shinobi from Kumagakure. Except Darui, Killer B and the Raikage.

 

[Hell Autarch]

BTW what I said about the 3rd Raikage was sarcasm.

 

[Edo Odin]

Eh, they were probably well trained, but I doubt they were on the Akatsuki's level. People with that kind of power are rare, and a unit with 20 guys like that, who all come from the same village (probably), doesn't seem very likely to exist.

 

[VongolaX]

Then were do you put kinanku&Ginkaku?

 

[zamki]

Tobirama is bawss

 

[deva pein]

I don't remember any 18 Akatsuki level shinobi from Kumagakure. Except Darui, Killer B and the Raikage.

Back in the days the shinobi were more skilled than they are now.

 

[deva pein]

BTW what I said about the 3rd Raikage was sarcasm.

lol its pretty difficult to see sarcasm on the interwebz.

 

[Edo Odin]

Back in the days the shinobi were more skilled than they are now.

Hashirama and Madara are really the only examples of that. Other than them, guys like Naruto and Obito far outshine anyone else of Hashirama's generation we've seen so far.

 

[deva pein]

Hashirama and Madara are really the only examples of that. Other than them, guys like Naruto and Obito far outshine anyone else of Hashirama's generation we've seen so far.

Well Obito and Naruto are one of the exceptions. The previous kage where stronger than the current ones.

Third kazekage>Gaara (probably)
All Hokage>>>Tsunade
Muu>Oonoki
Yagura and second mizukage>Mei
Third Raikage>A

 

[BISHOPALONE]

Those 18 other guys where highly skilled jounin criminals like Kinkaku and Ginkaku. They werent just mere chunnins, so Tobirama is badass to be able to hold them off long enough for Hiruzen and co to make a good escape......However, they are not all Akatsuki level else the cloud would have been so strong. 1 Akatsuki member can destroy a whole nation. Sasori, Deidera, Kakuzu and Hidan combo, Kisame, Pain.

 

[Zexion~]

Watch kakuzu be in there =D

 

[GucciSinclair]

I don't remember any 18 Akatsuki level shinobi from Kumagakure. Except Darui, Killer B and the Raikage.

actually Dodai and C are two good Candidates.
plus you can't assume current time's Kumo is as strong as the Kumo back then, it's like Konoha had 2 - 3 Shinobi who can or has potential to make Kyuubi a pet at one time, but not today n def not 3 years back.

BTW u don't need 20 Akatsuki member level shinobis to make Kinkaku force Akatsuki level, u jus need each member to be half as strong as the Akatsuki member.

 

[6ari8]

People keep underestimating Kinkaku + Ginkaku for some reason. They had the SO6P's tools, they are partial jinchuuriki, they have great stamina. Other than MAYBE Pain and Tobi, I don't see ANY akatsuki member taking them down. So why would tobirama, acting as a decoy, dying against this force be considered weak? I think he's freaking strong for holding them down enough to let his group escape.

The only reason Darui's group was able to seal them is because they had tons of help and they underestimated them severely, Kinkaku changed into V2 too late, imagine what would've happened if both of them changed into V2 from the beginning and used their tools? Darui's wouldn't even be able to take down any of them and

 

[GucciSinclair]

People keep underestimating Kinkaku + Ginkaku for some reason. They had the SO6P's tools, they are partial jinchuuriki, they have great stamina. Other than MAYBE Pain and Tobi, I don't see ANY akatsuki member taking them down. So why would tobirama, acting as a decoy, dying against this force be considered weak? I think he's freaking strong for holding them down enough to let his group escape.

The only reason Darui's group was able to seal them is because they had tons of help and they underestimated them severely, Kinkaku changed into V2 too late, imagine what would've happened if both of them changed into V2 from the beginning and used their tools? Darui's wouldn't even be able to take down any of them and

pre Rinnegan Obito I don't think so, if there are 2 of them and each one is physically very strong, too strong for Obito to hold, Obito won't get a chance to warp them into Kamui dimension.
Pain without Chibaku Tensei, not a chance, Kinkaku himself against the allied Shinobi force was about as impressive as Pain invading Konoha, if not even more, I see Chikabu Tensei the only way Pain can take down these two.
however the best person to take them down I believe would be Itachi, Amaterasu and Totsuka Sword both are very good options against big strong durable targets, while Susanoo is there for defense.