[Discussion] what if science came before religion?

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so religion was man's answer to the things he could not explain and how they could happen.

eventually science came along and dismissed some religious feats and other stories with new understanding of how the world worked. EX.= rotation of the earth, where as before this it was just god saying let there be day and night when in actuality it is the cosmic forces in our solar system that ultimately decide how everything moves in our solar system.

so my question here is, what if science and technology as we know it today was progressed to its current form when most major religions started? This is around 2000bc to ad 500, i know some are earlier but i'm just trying to put science in religions shoes in that time period.

What i wondered on this was would religion or even the belief in gods have existed after we had this level of understanding? Also would the human race have offed ourselves by now? or would we be advanced to the point of no war and complete understanding of life's mechanics in its entirety.

my point in this is to look at science as a religion, not scientology those wacko's are off their rockers.
IF Science had been as far as to be able to give people the answers to why it rains why the sun comes up and whats in the stars, would by today, it be in christianity, islam, and judaism's place at the top of the worlds belief system and if so how far beyond our current point would we be.

this is also assuming that all wars fought in any god's name never happened, because we all had the same understanding not beliefs just the same rational capacity that today's world has over our ancestors capabilities. so we didn't massacre each other because jesus allah and abraham told us to because we don't believe in them.

just to keep this final point in perspective more people have fought and died in all god's name's/purposes than any other cause, natural death not included.

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i think everybody would be dead imo because there would be no rules imo there is no hell than people do what ever they want imo
 

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No idea, I guess we'll all find out eventually xd
 

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Science and spirituality go hand in hand. The reason science denies spirituality is because in the late 1600's or 1700's people decided to cast away their beliefs for their god since it didn't benifit their life at that time. Thats when the industrial revolution begun. They threw away all the religious concepts including some serious topics like spirituality. Every religious script has vast knowledge on the human origins and hidden knowledge, but that knowledge was twisted and translated in symbolic ways so that simpletons wouldn't understand. Which is what we have nowadays. Ignorance everywhere since people aren't able to read between the lines.
 

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Then every religion would look as silly as scientology ( I hate that they have science in the name). But seriously if some guy just walked up to you in this day and age and said there is a bearded guy in the clouds that judges you and makes everything happen around you everyone would be like wtf.
 
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ok so noah did get 2 of every animal in the world on the arc stored enough food in it for over a month that had food for every type of living animal on this planet and put that on a boat released them and they re populated the world with just his family and every animal found its own way back to its natural habitat and the world kept on going like nothing ever happened?

seems legit, there's alot of truth there
 
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i wasn't asking if people believe in religion or that they should or shouldn't believe, i was asking what if science was in religions shoes at the top of the world how different would this place be?

yowyan i was not trying to demean ya i was making a joke case i felt your answer wasn't swinging for the topic at hand, i felt it was more so pointed at science's roots vs. religions crushing power over it, i'm just trying to see what people believe the world would be like if the whole planets hopped off the religion train and when to rationalization, kinda like believe what you can figure out not what some old text says happened
 
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ok so noah did get 2 of every animal in the world on the arc stored enough food in it for over a month that had food for every type of living animal on this planet and put that on a boat released them and they re populated the world with just his family and every animal found its own way back to its natural habitat and the world kept on going like nothing ever happened?

seems legit, there's alot of truth there

View this video and your way of thinking will be drastically changed. [video=youtube;uAm-kbzT7xw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAm-kbzT7xw[/video]
 

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View this video and your way of thinking will be drastically changed. [video=youtube;uAm-kbzT7xw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAm-kbzT7xw[/video]

again with that video can you just summarize it
 

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i think everybody would be dead imo because there would be no rules imo there is no hell than people do what ever they want imo

No... I don't know anyone who believes in hell and they're good people. xd If you're only refraining from murder so you don't go to hell, that's your problem. xd
 

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Science is just an excuse to prove that god is not real
 

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No... I don't know anyone who believes in hell and they're good people. xd If you're only refraining from murder so you don't go to hell, that's your problem. xd

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ah man. their using logic. It's time to go..
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hahaha this gif had me chuckling xD.

And to the others, if your interested, MAKE time to watch the video. I'd be glad to answer questions though, but this movie is like a bombardment of information. I'm not going over all that
 

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Why treat the two like such polar opposites. Perhaps the technology we're at now would not be as diverse and convenient as it is now, but people lived and flourished off the land for longer than modern science has begun destroying the land. I'm not saying I don't use technology frequently, its become a necessity to our society, but with so much that has rapidly developed in the last few centuries. Overpopulation, overfishing, overuse of natural resources, soil degradation, etc have become problems that never even ceased to exist in the past. God forbid, imagining technology at an age you described, everyone would probably me no more than anti-social little closet hermits. Just look at the current generation. People spend more times on their phones and internet, than bonding with their family.

I'm more than thankful that everything is turning out the way it is. Science needs religion, and religion needs science. An imbalance leads to either destroying the world, or destroying humans.
 

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Just watch five minutes in O_O I was actually interested, until the guy claimed that humans were once psychic and began to talk about the Ascended Masters.
Bullshit.
 
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