What if itachi DID take sasuke's eyes?

[edo x edo]

Tsukuyomi was useless against sasuke only because sasuke was his brother

I'm not necessarily saying you are wrong... But you know this from?

 

[NOemotions]

I was wondering what if itachi wasnt terminally ill and did in fact take sasuke's eyes in the fight between them. I think that with a little help from the shinobi world ninjas he would beat even edo madara.
i mean up till he died he won every duel against some of the strongest ninja's without even breaking a sweat. More like 1hit KO-ed them with the perfect use of the skills in his arsenal. And by 1HKO i mean he either killed or totally disabled them to the point they couldnt react. For example:

1- he 1HKO kakashi with tsukoyomi
2- he 1HKO orichi twice (once when he cut off his hand the second when he sealed him)
3- Almost made Deidara kill himself and he wouldve if he taunted him a little more.(also 1HKO btw)
4- He defeated Nagato whos probably the second strongest villan behind Madara (imo) even after naruto and bee fed nagato their biju chakra and restored his health/youth.
5- he also defeated sage kabuto even with sasuke being a pain in his ass. Though i admit sasuke saved him once during the fight.
6- he couldve defeated jiraya. even kisame was confused why itachi didnt.
7- if you noticed how kisame follows itachi's orders you would know that kisame is certain that he doesnt stand a chance against him. thats why he respects him so much.
8- not to mention that he killed the ENTIRE uchiha clan by himself without being scratched.



add to that an EMS through sasuke's eyes plus those special weapons that he has on susano and he would be only matched by madara.


you might say that if he killed sasuke he would be a villian too but hey, he already killed his own parents and he is still portrayed as a hero in the manga.

first of all..due to itachis illness.. new eyes wouldnt made any changes around.. he would still have died in no time.
1. kakashi is on whole new level now and he knows how to counter itachis genjutsu
2. people can keep cutting oros hands wont make any difference.. they grow back.. yes he sealed oro. oro is back and alive and itachi isnt? = oro won in the short run.
3. Deidara knows how to counter sharingan ( if he were alive still) he blown himself against sasuke.
4. laughable.. itachi defeated nagato? be less fanboy and face facts.. there was 9&8 tails with him nagato lacked movement so itachi coul seal him he didn't want to live anymore and called himself failure and naruto real deal. (re read)
5. once again 2v1 situation itachi was NOT alone against kabuto.. so 1v1 itachi would have lost to dragon sage mode kabuto.
6. wrong again.. jiraya could of beat itachi and itachi knew that.. that's why they fleed.
7. omg.. they are frigging partners! there are like zero proofs that itachi would beat kisame hands down.. so false again.
8. hahaha you are laughable.. obito did help itachi xd are you reading manga at all? i can tell that you are most ultimate itachi fanwank** in whole site.. itachi would have get murdered by hes clan if he were alone against elites there. get your facts right and try again. with logic and NONE fanboyism.. and this thread might work.

 

[zinescience]

i Beth that itachi would be way cooler than sasuke with those eyes.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Uh he didn't kill the entire clan by himself obito helped and nagato fought 3 top level shinobi at the same time by himself naruto bee and itachi it wasn't until nagato told them how to beat him because he didn't want to be controlled and itachi didn't do it alone if he had been he would have been dragged through the mud against nagato who is second to edo madara just because of the ten tails even obito said he would never lose. Also kabuto doesn't count again kabuto fought two top tier ninja sasuke and itachi even though itachi put him in izanami kabuto still had to worry about sasuke catching him off guard which helps itachi out again. Everything else is good what u said although I doubt kisame was scared of him he just believed in him much everyone believes in naruto and kisame has even told itachi he would kill him given the chance and itachi has very low chakra reserve and kisame is the tailess tailed beast so itachi would tired first and I knw u would say itachi genjutsu would beat him but kisame has been with itachi for years I expect him to knw how to defend against that hell even gai stepped up to itachi and fought him by just looking at his feet

 

[Da Best Ever]

Tsukuyomi was useless against sasuke only because sasuke was his brother

Listen to yourself really sasuke got his ass whooped and itachi was ill and going blind hell he even died from the illness in his fight with sasuke im sure blindness of your eyes that cast the jutsu affect to jutsu potency and of course sickness would to so what are u saying

 

[gameove]

first of all..due to itachis illness.. new eyes wouldnt made any changes around.. he would still have died in no time.
1. kakashi is on whole new level now and he knows how to counter itachis genjutsu
2. people can keep cutting oros hands wont make any difference.. they grow back.. yes he sealed oro. oro is back and alive and itachi isnt? = oro won in the short run.
3. Deidara knows how to counter sharingan ( if he were alive still) he blown himself against sasuke.
4. laughable.. itachi defeated nagato? be less fanboy and face facts.. there was 9&8 tails with him nagato lacked movement so itachi coul seal him he didn't want to live anymore and called himself failure and naruto real deal. (re read)
5. once again 2v1 situation itachi was NOT alone against kabuto.. so 1v1 itachi would have lost to dragon sage mode kabuto.
6. wrong again.. jiraya could of beat itachi and itachi knew that.. that's why they fleed.
7. omg.. they are frigging partners! there are like zero proofs that itachi would beat kisame hands down.. so false again.
8. hahaha you are laughable.. obito did help itachi xd are you reading manga at all? i can tell that you are most ultimate itachi fanwank** in whole site.. itachi would have get murdered by hes clan if he were alone against elites there. get your facts right and try again. with logic and NONE fanboyism.. and this thread might work.

see now u over exagerrating a little come on

 

[celarian]

If itachi took sasuke's eyes he would still have died almost immediately after, even an immediate transplant at the scene would have still not saved his life.

 

[Da Best Ever]

SSomebody said deidara would counter his genjutsu uh wrong just because he countered sasuke dnt mean he would itachi and sasuke genjutsu is not great plus hasn't even done tsukoyami and even so deidara would still get murdered by itachi and he said he said him and jaraiya would have ended in a stalemate he ran because guy came to help and didn't want a long dragged out fight and oro still can't beat itachi oro even said I should've got itachi when he was a kid but I agree with u for the most part

 

[OnPoint]

Itachi would have to die in order for Sasuke to awaken the MS, which in turn would've allowed Itachi to gain the EMS. Itachi can't get the EMS if Sasuke doesn't have the MS, so it could never happen. Also, he would've still been terminally ill.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Its been stated by zetsu who has seen and recorded every fight that itachi susano although is not ps it still is invincible and notice he didn't use it on kabuto which means he was just using that time to talk to sasuke

 

[Klad]

But he did not want to take his eyes,he just wanted to make Sasuke stronger.

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

I was wondering what if itachi wasnt terminally ill and did in fact take sasuke's eyes in the fight between them. I think that with a little help from the shinobi world ninjas he would beat even edo madara.
i mean up till he died he won every duel against some of the strongest ninja's without even breaking a sweat. More like 1hit KO-ed them with the perfect use of the skills in his arsenal. And by 1HKO i mean he either killed or totally disabled them to the point they couldnt react. For example:

1- he 1HKO kakashi with tsukoyomi
2- he 1HKO orichi twice (once when he cut off his hand the second when he sealed him)
3- Almost made Deidara kill himself and he wouldve if he taunted him a little more.(also 1HKO btw)
4- He defeated Nagato whos probably the second strongest villan behind Madara (imo) even after naruto and bee fed nagato their biju chakra and restored his health/youth.
5- he also defeated sage kabuto even with sasuke being a pain in his ass. Though i admit sasuke saved him once during the fight.
6- he couldve defeated jiraya. even kisame was confused why itachi didnt.
7- if you noticed how kisame follows itachi's orders you would know that kisame is certain that he doesnt stand a chance against him. thats why he respects him so much.
8- not to mention that he killed the ENTIRE uchiha clan by himself without being scratched.



add to that an EMS through sasuke's eyes plus those special weapons that he has on susano and he would be only matched by madara.


you might say that if he killed sasuke he would be a villian too but hey, he already killed his own parents and he is still portrayed as a hero in the manga.

obito killed the uchiha clan, i thought this was made clear when sasuke pulled his bluff before they fought.

 

[Lankeysob]

Its been stated by zetsu who has seen and recorded every fight that itachi susano although is not ps it still is NEARLY INVINCIBLE and notice he didn't use it on kabuto which means he was just using that time to talk to sasuke

We still don't know how the yata mirror would stand to a TBB seeing as it isn't a standard chakara nature. Also, his susanoo is still vulnerable to attacks like the gaara/oonoki combo.

 

[mstp12]

first of all..due to itachis illness.. new eyes wouldnt made any changes around.. he would still have died in no time.
1. kakashi is on whole new level now and he knows how to counter itachis genjutsu
2. people can keep cutting oros hands wont make any difference.. they grow back.. yes he sealed oro. oro is back and alive and itachi isnt? = oro won in the short run.
3. Deidara knows how to counter sharingan ( if he were alive still) he blown himself against sasuke.
4. laughable.. itachi defeated nagato? be less fanboy and face facts.. there was 9&8 tails with him nagato lacked movement so itachi coul seal him he didn't want to live anymore and called himself failure and naruto real deal. (re read)
5. once again 2v1 situation itachi was NOT alone against kabuto.. so 1v1 itachi would have lost to dragon sage mode kabuto.
6. wrong again.. jiraya could of beat itachi and itachi knew that.. that's why they fleed.
7. omg.. they are frigging partners! there are like zero proofs that itachi would beat kisame hands down.. so false again.
8. hahaha you are laughable.. obito did help itachi xd are you reading manga at all? i can tell that you are most ultimate itachi fanwank** in whole site.. itachi would have get murdered by hes clan if he were alone against elites there. get your facts right and try again. with logic and NONE fanboyism.. and this thread might work.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

logic in a manga? please man dont make a joke of urself. yea i suppose i can shoot a river of lava from my mouth.
and btw do YOU even read the manga?
IF you did you will understand this thread. untill you do reread it please refrain from stupid comments.


ohh yea i AM an "itachi fanboy" much as u are an "anti-fanboy"

 

[celarian]

^ Yah dude, I know

first of all..due to itachis illness.. new eyes wouldnt made any changes around.. he would still have died in no time.
1. kakashi is on whole new level now and he knows how to counter itachis genjutsu
2. people can keep cutting oros hands wont make any difference.. they grow back.. yes he sealed oro. oro is back and alive and itachi isnt? = oro won in the short run.
3. Deidara knows how to counter sharingan ( if he were alive still) he blown himself against sasuke.
4. laughable.. itachi defeated nagato? be less fanboy and face facts.. there was 9&8 tails with him nagato lacked movement so itachi coul seal him he didn't want to live anymore and called himself failure and naruto real deal. (re read)
5. once again 2v1 situation itachi was NOT alone against kabuto.. so 1v1 itachi would have lost to dragon sage mode kabuto.
6. wrong again.. jiraya could of beat itachi and itachi knew that.. that's why they fleed.
7. omg.. they are frigging partners! there are like zero proofs that itachi would beat kisame hands down.. so false again.
8. hahaha you are laughable.. obito did help itachi xd are you reading manga at all? i can tell that you are most ultimate itachi fanwank** in whole site.. itachi would have get murdered by hes clan if he were alone against elites there. get your facts right and try again. with logic and NONE fanboyism.. and this thread might work.

1. Kakashi cannot counter KA a jutsu he has at his disposal
2. Only because of seals elsewere, there are a limited amount of these, Jugo, sasuke and Anko are the only ones who still have them, not counting all those ppl they killed at the second base who might have survived.
3. Diedara cant counter Atamerasu, hes no fast enough, so theres no debate he would instantly die especially with EMS.
4. With EMS he simply Atamerasu's deva path and its all over, it Susanoo kills every other path easy, and in war arc he didnt need them, they simply were there itachi could have beaten him 1v1 med dif, nagato may also be affected by Izanami as well.
5. Itachi didnt need sasuke to land the only fatal jutsu on kabuto.
6. Nope they fled because Itachi has already used MS Techs 3 times and was out of stamina.
7. Not chance in EMS, itachi has yata mirror, whats kisame gonna do?
8.Nope this was just sasuke's hunch, itachi never admitted to this, neither did obito so you have 0 proof of anything of the sort. And in this case when itachi made him watch it over and over notice there is no obito to be seen.

 

[itachiamaterasu]

Uchiha's are not known for their stamina. Also there is no proof that Itachi can get PS

he has perfect susano'o. it's just not stabilized.

 

[Itachi Edo]

He's easily one of my favorite characters but you're reaching here. Madara isn't exactly stupid. Arrgonat yes, but not so much that he couldn't see a plan being made in the mist of a battle. Madara is from a different time where war was a constant vs Itachi...

 

[mstp12]

^ Yah dude, I know

1. Kakashi cannot counter KA a jutsu he has at his disposal
2. Only because of seals elsewere, there are a limited amount of these, Jugo, sasuke and Anko are the only ones who still have them, not counting all those ppl they killed at the second base who might have survived.
3. Diedara cant counter Atamerasu, hes no fast enough, so theres no debate he would instantly die especially with EMS.
4. With EMS he simply Atamerasu's deva path and its all over, it Susanoo kills every other path easy, and in war arc he didnt need them, they simply were there itachi could have beaten him 1v1 med dif, nagato may also be affected by Izanami as well.
5. Itachi didnt need sasuke to land the only fatal jutsu on kabuto.
6. Nope they fled because Itachi has already used MS Techs 3 times and was out of stamina.
7. Not chance in EMS, itachi has yata mirror, whats kisame gonna do?
8.Nope this was just sasuke's hunch, itachi never admitted to this, neither did obito so you have 0 proof of anything of the sort. And in this case when itachi made him watch it over and over notice there is no obito to be seen.

can i be ur friend ... at least one person has a real grasp on the manga story.. you literally took this outa my brian and phrased it

 

[cptenn94]

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1- he 1HKO kakashi with tsukoyomi
2- he 1HKO orichi twice (once when he cut off his hand the second when he sealed him)
3- Almost made Deidara kill himself and he wouldve if he taunted him a little more.(also 1HKO btw)

Agreed

4- He defeated Nagato whos probably the second strongest villan behind Madara (imo) even after naruto and bee fed nagato their biju chakra and restored his health/youth.

You did forget to mention that the same people who gave nagato chakra, also helped fight him. Maybe itachi could take nagato idk, but i simply want to point out that he didnt do it alone.

5- he also defeated sage kabuto even with sasuke being a pain in his ass. Though i admit sasuke saved him once during the fight.

Want to point out, that they still did work toghther, and that both itachi and kabuto wanted sasuke alive. It is possible, that if sasuke wasnt there, that kabuto would use killer moves on itachi, since itachi is edo, he would regen, so say kabuto used a random move that hurt itachi bad, then while itachi is regenerating, kabuto could possibly regain control of him. The true question, is if itachi soloed, would he be able to land izanami, before kabuto could regain control.
Simply itachi didnt solo kabuto either, and both itachi and kabuto were holding back(itachi because he didnt want kabuto dead, and kabuto, because he didnt want sasuke dead).

6- he couldve defeated jiraya. even kisame was confused why itachi didnt.

Itachi is known for very good for understanding peoples powers strengths and techniques. Itachi knew much of how strong jman was, and so he with his expert skills in anaylsis understood that even with kisame, they would stalemate. Here is how it could work logically. Logically, kisame isnt as strong vs non jin, as a huge part of his strength, comes from useing the enemys chakra. So since jman is skilled, kisame would not be able to drain much chakra, makeing him not be as strong. Itachi has the opposite problem, as he has strong techniques, but low stamina. SO simply jman, who is known for great stamina, and endurance, would with his skills out last itachis, strong techs, and kisame would wear down as well. In the end they all collapse due to overuse of chakra.

7- if you noticed how kisame follows itachi's orders you would know that kisame is certain that he doesnt stand a chance against him. thats why he respects him so much.

Kisame may stand a chance against him, as he has samehade which could get kisame out of itachis genjutsu. After that they could fight pretty fairly. Kisame simply respects itachis insight, and strength. It doesnt mean that he doesnt think he has a chance against itachi.

8- not to mention that he killed the ENTIRE uchiha clan by himself without being scratched.

you dont know he didnt get scratched, and he had obitos help... Also it was a surprise attack as well.



add to that an EMS through sasuke's eyes plus those special weapons that he has on susano and he would be only matched by madara.

very possible

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The parts in bold and underlined, are parts that i answer. I am no true fanboy of any character, just of the entire series. I base my logic, off the proof in the manga. I try not to be biased as well.

Simply itachi was a beast op ninja, when he was a kid and when he had his illness. A healthy ems itachi would be very op.

 

[Aeternak]

Itachi did have help, He had Madara's help in massacring his clan.