[Discussion] What if it was Shiryu instead of Burgees

[Yonko]

Shiryu vs Sabo instead.

I think Shiryu would win. Hes already on par with magellan 2 yrs ago. Im thinking hes admiral lvl right now.

Hes obviously way stronger than burgess. Ace neg diffed burgess.

Weeehahah

Zehahahah

 

[Akuma]

Shiryu admiral level?

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Sabo would probably have some difficulty. I say Sabo mid diff.

 

[scorezor]

sabo solos every1.

 

[OG sama]

Shiryu is most likely just as strong as Sabo, don't listen to the Sabo fapboys who are only saying he will win just because they like Sabo.

This man was as strong as Magellan two years ago, two years later it should be no surprise he's up there with other Yonko FMs like Beckman and Marco.

 

[keshav31]

Shiryu vs Sabo instead.

I think Shiryu would win. Hes already on par with magellan 2 yrs ago. Im thinking hes admiral lvl right now.

Hes obviously way stronger than burgess. Ace neg diffed burgess.

Weeehahah

Zehahahah

shiryu is stronger but not against sabo.Sabo beat burgess in one punch so do the math.Also shiryu cut soldier in jail but now its wide open where are no restrains.

 

[Akuma]

Shiryu is most likely just as strong as Sabo, don't listen to the Sabo fapboys who are only saying he will win just because they like Sabo.

This man was as strong as Magellan two years ago, two years later it should be no surprise he's up there with other Yonko FMs like Beckman and Marco.

The fact that we don't even know what Beckman is fully capable of makes me think you just type to throw shade. The only person as strong as Sabo is BB in the BB Pirates. This whole "strong as Magellan" crap is nonsense. Because Sabo is not fighting Magellan nor has he done it, thus he shouldn't even be mentioned. Shilliew is a close range fighter, so is Sabo, now ranged Shilliew cannot stop Mera Mera no Mi. Even if he is strong, he hasn't shown a feats that guarantee he can fight a ranged battle.

 

[OG sama]

shiryu is stronger but not against sabo.Sabo beat burgess in one punch so do the math.Also shiryu cut soldier in jail but now its wide open where are no restrains.

Sabo never one shotted Burgess. Shiryu is definitely as strong as Sabo I dont understand why people are acting ignorant of this. Blackbeards strongest commander who was as strong as the guy who one shotted the Blackbeard pirates is going to get the fodder treatment two years later where he would have gotten even stronger?

 

[OG sama]

The fact that we don't even know what Beckman is fully capable of makes me think you just type to throw shade. The only person as strong as Sabo is BB in the BB Pirates. This whole "strong as Magellan" crap is nonsense. Because Sabo is not fighting Magellan nor has he done it, thus he shouldn't even be mentioned. Shilliew is a close range fighter, so is Sabo, now ranged Shilliew cannot stop Mera Mera no Mi. Even if he is strong, he hasn't shown a feats that guarantee he can fight a ranged battle.

Look at this shit logic, if a close range fighter like Shiryu was equal to a man who fought strictly range(Magellan)then how exactly does he have a disadvantage against Sabo who you say can fight range now, who just got his fruit?

Stop just stop your just biased as hell.

 

[Love Cook]

Look at this shit logic, if a close range fighter like Shiryu was equal to a man who fought strictly range then how exactly does he have a disadvantage against Sabo who you say can fight range now, and a man who just got his fruit?

Stop just stop your just biased as hell.

How was he equal ? Magellan put him in a cell.

 

[OG sama]

How was he equal ? Magellan put him in a cell.

They were either equal or very close in power that's what the manga says not me. Its not uncommon for two equals to manage to best the other once a while so that's probably how Magellan managed to beat Shiryu.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Either one would win very high or extreme diff.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Shiryu admiral level?

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Sabo would probably have some difficulty. I say Sabo mid diff.

Dont know why people are disliking this.....dont see someone who was weaker than Magellan and no match for an admiral 2 years ago, can suddenly fight on par with an admiral now. The BB pirates are DF hunting for a reason. Burgess couldnt even touch Sabo and almost died.

 

[Akuma]

Look at this shit logic, if a close range fighter like Shiryu was equal to a man who fought strictly range(Magellan)then how exactly does he have a disadvantage against Sabo who you say can fight range now, who just got his fruit?

Stop just stop your just biased as hell.

2 years ago Ace shit on Burgess low dif

2 years later Sabo shit on Burgess low dif

You know where i'm going with this? a timeskip won't always mean a large increase in strength. Shiryu as of now would probably lose to Sabo. That's based on past battles and feats.

 

[ToshiZO]

Dont know why people are disliking this.....dont see someone who was weaker than Magellan and no match for an admiral 2 years ago, can suddenly fight on par with an admiral now. The BB pirates are DF hunting for a reason. Burgess couldnt even touch Sabo and almost died.

Too Bad Burgess was a fodder pre timeskip while Shiryu was arguably stronger than BB at the time he joined.

 

[OG sama]

2 years ago Ace shit on Burgess low dif

2 years later Sabo shit on Burgess low dif

You know where i'm going with this? a timeskip won't always mean a large increase in strength. Shiryu as of now would probably lose to Sabo. That's based on past battles and feats.

Oh I know where your going and your just showing me how ignorant you really are. Burgess is not Shiryu, Shiryu was equal to the man who one shot Blackbeard along with his whole crew. Not to mention that was Yami Blackbeard, the same man who beat Ace two years ago, I dont know what you believe but pre skip Ace and pre skip Sabo most likely were close to each other in power.

You know where I'm going with this right? If pre skip Shiryu was as strong as Magellan then that would mean pre skip Shiryu was ahead of pre skip Sabo so current Shiryu should be still ahead of Sabo. And using your logic that's based on past battles and feats.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Dont know why people are disliking this.....dont see someone who was weaker than Magellan and no match for an admiral 2 years ago, can suddenly fight on par with an admiral now. The BB pirates are DF hunting for a reason. Burgess couldnt even touch Sabo and almost died.

Because he said Sabo would win mid diff.

 

[Akuma]

Oh I know where your going and your just showing me how ignorant you really are. Burgess is not Shiryu, Shiryu was equal to the man who one shot Blackbeard along with his whole crew. Not to mention that was Yami Blackbeard, the same man who beat Ace two years ago, I dont know what you believe but pre skip Ace and pre skip Sabo most likely were close to each other in power.

You know where I'm going with this right? If pre skip Shiryu was as strong as Magellan then that would mean pre skip Shiryu was ahead of pre skip Sabo so current Shiryu should be still ahead of Sabo. And using your logic that's based on past battles and feats.

@Bold, Shiryu would not be able to do that though. So your comparison is baseless.
@Red, Yes I remember Ace almost killing BB and his crew along the way. It was a diff fight in which either or could've won tbh.
@Red2, Sabo's close combat Haki techniques put him above Ace.

@Blue, pre timeskip Smoker > pre ts Luffy. Post ts Luffy > Smoker. Characters who were stronger than other before don't have to be stronger still. That's a very childish logic.

You can stop with the Shiryu = Magellan case btw. It's starting to sound like a joke more than an valid point. Magellan defeated Shiryu. Magellan was able to suppress Shiliew and place him in a cell. Their power levels are similiar yes, but they are not evenly matched. It's like saying Marco = Ace. When we know Kizaru would've defeated Ace way sooner and easier. (no hate for Ace tho)

 

[ToshiZO]

2 years ago Ace shit on Burgess low dif

2 years later Sabo shit on Burgess low dif

You know where i'm going with this? a timeskip won't always mean a large increase in strength. Shiryu as of now would probably lose to Sabo. That's based on past battles and feats.

What in the heck are you talking about?

And no nobody knows where you're going with this, cause you're not going anywhere at all really.

-Burgess got low diffed by someone on Sabo's level two years ago.
-Burgess is not the only one that got stronger...........

if their growth rate was equal then that means Burgess would still get low diffed by someone on Sabo's level, but if anything Sabo's growth rate should be > Burgess.

 

[LitzSabr]

Shiryu(~Magellan) is leagues above Burgess. In short,
Magellan~Shiryu>Yami Blackbeard & co.>Ace Pre TS~Pre TS Sabo(based on portrayal). And so,
TS Shiryu>TS Sabo, how big is the gap that depends on Sabo's growth which I assume is better than Shiryu's.

Now that Sabo has eaten Mera Mera, he would probably be able to push Shiryu to extreme diff.

 

[OG sama]

@Bold, Shiryu would not be able to do that though. So your comparison is baseless.
@Red, Yes I remember Ace almost killing BB and his crew along the way. It was a diff fight in which either or could've won tbh.
@Red2, Sabo's close combat Haki techniques put him above Ace.

@Blue, pre timeskip Smoker > pre ts Luffy. Post ts Luffy > Smoker. Characters who were stronger than other before don't have to be stronger still. That's a very childish logic.

You can stop with the Shiryu = Magellan case btw. It's starting to sound like a joke more than an valid point. Magellan defeated Shiryu. Magellan was able to suppress Shiliew and place him in a cell. Their power levels are similiar yes, but they are not evenly matched. It's like saying Marco = Ace. When we know Kizaru would've defeated Ace way sooner and easier. (no hate for Ace tho)

Bold: Shiryu may not be able to do exactly that, but whos to say he couldn't just blitz and slash Blackbeard and his whole crew like he did those ID guards. The BB pirates were underestimating Magellan, Shiryu would have capitalized on that as well.

1st red: Ace never nearly killed Blackbeard. How does Blackbeard getting hurt by Aces attacks mean that Ace almost killed him? Either could have won based off what? Blackbeard had the advantage the whole fight.

2nd red: Two years later yeah when Ace is dead and Sabo had time to keep improving. Two years ago who was to say Sabo Haki was good enough then? Aces fruit gives him advantages Sabo does not have.

1st Blue: But its YOUR logic. You say Sabo should be above Shiryu by past battles and feats, but if you believed differently then why in the hell are you saying Sabo would mid diff him? Because after all, someone stronger two years ago doesn't have to be stronger still. Right?

The hell is this BS? It has plenty of merit because whether or not Magellan beat Shiryu they were said to be equal in power. Have you never heard someone say X beats Y 5 amount of times out of 10? Ace=Marco was the worst example you could have used.