Never was it once stated that you need to hit the chakra points in order to effect the organs. As stated, it only takes a slight touch, in which the users of gentle fist just put their chakra into the inner coils. It does not require direct hits. The only thing that requires chakra points is controlling the enemies chakra.
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Never was this stated to be a requirement for effecting the organs.
Too bad. It is. People forget how OP Hyuga are in CQB.
Sakura's stats in the databooks are overall better. They both have a 3 in ninjutsu. Sakura has a 3 in Taijutsu while Hinata is ahead by 0.5 points. Sakura has a 3.5 in Genjutsu while Hinata has a 2.5. Sakura has a 4.0 in intelligence while Hinata has a 3.5. Sakura has a 3.0 in strength while Hinata has a 1.5. Sakura has a 3.0 in speed while Hinata has a 2.5 in speed. Sakura has a 2.5 in stamina while Hinata has a 2.0. Sakura has a 4.0 in hand seals while Hinata has a 3.0. Clearly Sakura is ahead by databook stats. More importantly, we should include sleep bombs or poison Kunai as a part of Sakura arsenal, not to mention the nice dodging feats that she displayed from her so called "battle" with Sasori. After awhile in that fight, she did not need Chiyo's assistance anymore, so she was doing some of it on her own. She can more than handle Hinata's twin lion fists. Furthermore, she has the ability to heal any wounds that might inflict upon herself. Hinata cannot shut off the Tenketsu points because she has never displayed to so so. Until she do so, I suggest you Hinata fanboys shut up and sit down with your made up stupidity. Byakugo seal is not even needed, nor is Katsuyu to finish her off.
What does Hinata have? Byakugan? What can that do? It means nothing in her position against Sakura. Twin Lion fists? I already explained that shit is useless against someone who evaded some of Sasori's attacks. Air Palm? That shit is weak and can also be evaded. Neji's air palm could barely kill a Kisame clone. In fact, it did nothing.
Sakura's stats in the databooks are overall better. They both have a 3 in ninjutsu. Sakura has a 3 in Taijutsu while Hinata is ahead by 0.5 points. Sakura has a 3.5 in Genjutsu while Hinata has a 2.5. Sakura has a 4.0 in intelligence while Hinata has a 3.5. Sakura has a 3.0 in strength while Hinata has a 1.5. Sakura has a 3.0 in speed while Hinata has a 2.5 in speed. Sakura has a 2.5 in stamina while Hinata has a 2.0. Sakura has a 4.0 in hand seals while Hinata has a 3.0. Clearly Sakura is ahead by databook stats. More importantly, we should include sleep bombs or poison Kunai as a part of Sakura arsenal, not to mention the nice dodging feats that she displayed from her so called "battle" with Sasori. After awhile in that fight, she did not need Chiyo's assistance anymore, so she was doing some of it on her own. She can more than handle Hinata's twin lion fists. Furthermore, she has the ability to heal any wounds that might inflict upon herself. Hinata cannot shut off the Tenketsu points because she has never displayed to so so. Until she do so, I suggest you Hinata fanboys shut up and sit down with your made up stupidity. Byakugo seal is not even needed, nor is Katsuyu to finish her off.
What does Hinata have? Byakugan? What can that do? It means nothing in her position against Sakura. Twin Lion fists? I already explained that shit is useless against someone who evaded some of Sasori's attacks. Air Palm? That shit is weak and can also be evaded. Neji's air palm could barely kill a Kisame clone. In fact, it did nothing.
That's the thing though. It won't be easy for Sakura, since she has to use her hands for healing. Remember, his version of Sakura does not have a seal. This means that any healing she does opens her up to getting utterly slaughtered.
Sakura's stats in the databooks are overall better. They both have a 3 in ninjutsu. Sakura has a 3 in Taijutsu while Hinata is ahead by 0.5 points. Sakura has a 3.5 in Genjutsu while Hinata has a 2.5. Sakura has a 4.0 in intelligence while Hinata has a 3.5. Sakura has a 3.0 in strength while Hinata has a 1.5. Sakura has a 3.0 in speed while Hinata has a 2.5 in speed. Sakura has a 2.5 in stamina while Hinata has a 2.0. Sakura has a 4.0 in hand seals while Hinata has a 3.0. Clearly Sakura is ahead by databook stats. More importantly, we should include sleep bombs or poison Kunai as a part of Sakura arsenal, not to mention the nice dodging feats that she displayed from her so called "battle" with Sasori. After awhile in that fight, she did not need Chiyo's assistance anymore, so she was doing some of it on her own. She can more than handle Hinata's twin lion fists. Furthermore, she has the ability to heal any wounds that might inflict upon herself. Hinata cannot shut off the Tenketsu points because she has never displayed to so so. Until she do so, I suggest you Hinata fanboys shut up and sit down with your made up stupidity. Byakugo seal is not even needed, nor is Katsuyu to finish her off.
What does Hinata have? Byakugan? What can that do? It means nothing in her position against Sakura. Twin Lion fists? I already explained that shit is useless against someone who evaded some of Sasori's attacks. Air Palm? That shit is weak and can also be evaded. Neji's air palm could barely kill a Kisame clone. In fact, it did nothing.
Dude. The entire nature of 64 palms is closing off chakra points. Hinata has 64 palms, therefore, she can shut off chakra points. This is the equivalent of me saying "Sakura hasn't shown 100 healings, which is a healing jutsu without hand signs, therefore she doesn't have it." However, more likely than not Sakura can use 100 healings, so I accredit to her.
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Come now...... You can't honestly think she can't despite the fact that she learned a technique specifically revolving around shutting down chakra points.
Sakura's stats in the databooks are overall better. They both have a 3 in ninjutsu. Sakura has a 3 in taijutsu while hinata is ahead by 0.5 points. Sakura has a 3.5 in genjutsu while hinata has a 2.5. Sakura has a 4.0 in intelligence while hinata has a 3.5. Sakura has a 3.0 in strength while hinata has a 1.5. Sakura has a 3.0 in speed while hinata has a 2.5 in speed. Sakura has a 2.5 in stamina while hinata has a 2.0. Sakura has a 4.0 in hand seals while hinata has a 3.0. Clearly sakura is ahead by databook stats. More importantly, we should include sleep bombs or poison kunai as a part of sakura arsenal, not to mention the nice dodging feats that she displayed from her so called "battle" with sasori. After awhile in that fight, she did not need chiyo's assistance anymore, so she was doing some of it on her own. She can more than handle hinata's twin lion fists. Furthermore, she has the ability to heal any wounds that might inflict upon herself. Hinata cannot shut off the tenketsu points because she has never displayed to so so. Until she do so, i suggest you hinata fanboys shut up and sit down with your made up stupidity. Byakugo seal is not even needed, nor is katsuyu to finish her off.
What does hinata have? Byakugan? What can that do? It means nothing in her position against sakura. Twin lion fists? I already explained that shit is useless against someone who evaded some of sasori's attacks. Air palm? That shit is weak and can also be evaded. Neji's air palm could barely kill a kisame clone. In fact, it did nothing.
He makes a bunch of ways Sakura's better that's completely pointless like genjutsu, which Sakura doesn't use yay! Did I forget to mention being strong is pointless for Hinata since gentle fist does not require strength to be effective? Which means the comparison might as well not exist. Stamina is only a factor if the fight lasts a long time, which, when you can cause someone to cough up blood with a single touch, is not happening. I've already addressed how wrong he is about chakra points.
Sakura's stats in the databooks are overall better. They both have a 3 in ninjutsu. Sakura has a 3 in Taijutsu while Hinata is ahead by 0.5 points. Sakura has a 3.5 in Genjutsu while Hinata has a 2.5. Sakura has a 4.0 in intelligence while Hinata has a 3.5. Sakura has a 3.0 in strength while Hinata has a 1.5. Sakura has a 3.0 in speed while Hinata has a 2.5 in speed. Sakura has a 2.5 in stamina while Hinata has a 2.0. Sakura has a 4.0 in hand seals while Hinata has a 3.0. Clearly Sakura is ahead by databook stats. More importantly, we should include sleep bombs or poison Kunai as a part of Sakura arsenal, not to mention the nice dodging feats that she displayed from her so called "battle" with Sasori. After awhile in that fight, she did not need Chiyo's assistance anymore, so she was doing some of it on her own. She can more than handle Hinata's twin lion fists. Furthermore, she has the ability to heal any wounds that might inflict upon herself. Hinata cannot shut off the Tenketsu points because she has never displayed to so so. Until she do so, I suggest you Hinata fanboys shut up and sit down with your made up stupidity. Byakugo seal is not even needed, nor is Katsuyu to finish her off.
What does Hinata have? Byakugan? What can that do? It means nothing in her position against Sakura. Twin Lion fists? I already explained that shit is useless against someone who evaded some of Sasori's attacks. Air Palm? That shit is weak and can also be evaded. Neji's air palm could barely kill a Kisame clone. In fact, it did nothing.
You're fooling yourself if you think someone less skilled in taijutsu is going to evade point-blank attacks from someone more skilled. I forgot to mention this, but about air palms.
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Gee, I didn't know weak techniques could repel a juubi tail without Naruto's chakra. Even though Hinata's probably isn't as strong, it goes to show that the technique is not weak. Hiashi>Sakura/Tsunade
And the juubi tail proved it is something major lol! Now, it's debatable on how powerful Hinata's is, but it's by no means a useless jutsu. That could have something to do with it. Air palm at the very least, can knock enemies of balance and open them up to attacks, or get her out of a difficult situation.
Now, about the power behind Hinata's air palm. It's not weak.
Here's what Hiashi did.
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He knocked back a juubi tail, but it stopped itself and immediately began an attack. Here's what Hinata did with a cloak.
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She knocked it away with much more force and the tail was completely knocked back to the juubi. It was clearly far above anything Hiashi could do hence "she did all that with just an air palm?!" A cloak gives a large power boost. However, you need to also take into consideration that Hinata was using a single hand as opposed to Hiashi, who used both, which clearly gives much more power. This over all means that Hinata's air palm probably isn't that far off from Hiashi's. It's certainly not weak.
Now, there's another way to demonstrate just how powerful Hinata's air palm is.
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Akamichi ninjas using super expansion jutsu enhanced by cloaks had to exert effort to keep juubi tails at bay. Now, what's important to note is that Hinata completely overpowered a juubi tail with a single air palm.
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Now, what's also important to note is that they both have chakra cloaks, meaning they're enhanced on the same level, which means, by extension, Hinata's single air palm exerts more force than a biju-sized Akamichi ninja! Please bear in mind Akamichi can do this.
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So, sorry to break it to you, but air palm is a big deal.
Another thing to note is Hinata's reaction time is better than Sakura's. Sakura needed to be saved from a spike by Kakashi while Hinata was able to intercept them to protect Naruto after his SM wore out and ransenshuriken no longer blocked spikes.
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If anyone in the fight will land hits, it'll be Hinata.
as madara said she only got so powerful after receiving the kyubi chakra, so your theory of hinata's single air palm = hiashi's double air palm doesn't hold water. hinata's air palms and 32 palms are linear attacks so it's easy to avoid. sakura have tools(sleeping/poison/explosion kunai), she shown that she would take drastic actions like using the explosion tag to escape in the sasori fight, when push comes to shove she can poison both hinata and herself in a match because she have her own antidote. also 1 punch in any place will damage hinata severely but 1 juuken had to be in the right place to deal severe damage.
as madara said she only got so powerful after receiving the kyubi chakra, so your theory of hinata's single air palm = hiashi's double air palm doesn't hold water. hinata's air palms and 32 palms are linear attacks so it's easy to avoid. sakura have tools(sleeping/poison/explosion kunai), she shown that she would take drastic actions like using the explosion tag to escape in the sasori fight, when push comes to shove she can poison both hinata and herself in a match because she have her own antidote. also 1 punch in any place will damage hinata severely but 1 juuken had to be in the right place to deal severe damage.
Sigh, you clearly aren't taking things into context. I never said her single air palm-Hiashi's double air palm. I was saying that since when enhanced, her single air palm was far above a double one, it stands to reason that her single air palm is not much weaker if weaker than Hiashi's.
"Linear and Easy to avoid." No, no they're not. First off, you're completely forgetting that Sakura's fighting style is CQB, therefore, she has no choice but to subject herself to be in range of Hinata's attacks. Sakura's attacks themselves, are linear. You underestimate the palms techniques. It clearly gives the user far faster striking speed than usual. 64 palms, and by extension 32 palms, is not a linear attack. It has an actual radius, meaning that within a range, Hinata can use lightning-fast strikes that Sakura cannot react to.
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Sakura might be able to dodge ninjutsu, but taijutsu is another story completely.
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She is not good at dodging taijutsu at all, and as I've already demonstrated, Hinata has better reactions. She's by no means, dodging 32 palms, and once it hits her, she looses chakra enhanced strength and healing, in which case, she's as good as finished.
I've proven that Hinata's air palms are powerful using my Akamichi clan argument. Also, Sakura's ninja tools will not help her. For one thing, it's impossible to catch a Hyuga off-guard since Hinata's byukugan will just see any tool she's about to bring out, and she can deflect the tools right back at Sakura with air palm.
Pre war arc Sakura is flat-out weaker than pre-war arc Hinata.
Sigh, you clearly aren't taking things into context. I never said her single air palm-Hiashi's double air palm. I was saying that since when enhanced, her single air palm was far above a double one, it stands to reason that her single air palm is not much weaker if weaker than Hiashi's.
it's still weak since we didn't see how much damge her regular air palm can deal
"Linear and Easy to avoid." No, no they're not. First off, you're completely forgetting that Sakura's fighting style is CQB, therefore, she has no choice but to subject herself to be in range of Hinata's attacks. Sakura's attacks themselves, are linear. You underestimate the palms techniques. It clearly gives the user far faster striking speed than usual. 64 palms, and by extension 32 palms, is not a linear attack. It has an actual radius, meaning that within a range, Hinata can use lightning-fast strikes that Sakura cannot react to.
no, sakura have more options than cqb, she utilise tools and think up strategies which hinata never did
hinata's 32 palms needs a firm footwork, that was why she never reached 64 palm until neji died/naruto's encouragement. sakura's power could do this to hinata's footwork like what tsunade did to naruto.
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I've proven that Hinata's air palms are powerful using my Akamichi clan argument.
that's flawed reasoning. akamichi clan were co-operating with nara and yamanaka, they were deliberately holding the juubi hands/tails in place, hinata was trying to keep them away from harming neji's body.
Also, Sakura's ninja tools will not help her. For one thing, it's impossible to catch a Hyuga off-guard since Hinata's byukugan will just see any tool she's about to bring out, and she can deflect the tools right back at Sakura with air palm.
that's not true at all. like what lee said to sasuke in chunnin arc just because you can see it doesn't mean you can dodge it. sakura has her battle wits and used explosion tag in order to get the result she desired, even if it means she get hurt too. poison/sleeping gas can handicap hinata and explosion tag is no child-play too, like this
All right, this is flat-out denial. "I don't want to accept that air palm has impressive feats, so I'm completely ignoring the later feats and only go for the one time they weren't impressive."
no, sakura have more options than cqb, she utilise tools and think up strategies which hinata never did
hinata's 32 palms needs a firm footwork, that was why she never reached 64 palm until neji died/naruto's encouragement. sakura's power could do this to hinata's footwork like what tsunade did to naruto.
that's flawed reasoning. akamichi clan were co-operating with nara and yamanaka, they were deliberately holding the juubi hands/tails in place, hinata was trying to keep them away from harming neji's body.
If anything, you're proving Hinata's air palm is all the more powerful. If Akamichi had help and Hinata didn't, you're making Hinata look like a godess in power.
that's not true at all. like what lee said to sasuke in chunnin arc just because you can see it doesn't mean you can dodge it. sakura has her battle wits and used explosion tag in order to get the result she desired, even if it means she get hurt too. poison/sleeping gas can handicap hinata and explosion tag is no child-play too, like this
Oh my gosh. You do realize that Lee was saying that because Sasuke's body couldn't keep up with him right? That's only if the gap's too big. Why do you think part 1 Neji with a 3.0 in speed and 3.5 in taijutsu was always better than Lee, who had a 3.5 in taijutsu and a 4 in speed?
Whatever plan Sakura makes is useless as the byakugan will see through all of her tools. Nothing's catching Hinata off guard.
Hinata was better. I won't be posting about this subject again as I've made a ton of posts about this and feel I've made this very clear.