What if different MS/EMS enhance different abilities? (Read)

[Stark]

Think about it, Madara, Sasuke and Itachi all have enhanced their different MS/EMS techniques. This also leads me to believe that Sasuke and Itachi are direct decendents of Madara, they are all able to use Susano'o and Obito is not able to use Susano'o which means he stemmed from a different branch of the Uchiha Clan.


Madara has an enhanced version of Susano'o and it became Perfect Susano'o

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Sasuke has an enhanced version of Amateratsu which became his Blaze release which he manipulates at will

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Itachi has an enhanced his Tsukuyomi in which he can freely manipulate time and space

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[SeriousDogg]

Itachi didn't "enhanced" anything, Tsukuyomi is A Genjutsu, the Genjutsu user can do whatever he wants in his Genjutsu.

 

[Stark]

Itachi didn't "enhanced" anything, Tsukuyomi is A Genjutsu, the Genjutsu user can do whatever he wants in his Genjutsu.

Explain why his Tsukuyomi is worlds apart from Sasuke's, that doesn't erase the fact that Susano'o may be enhanced and Sasuke's Amateratsu/Blaze Release might be enhanced because of the natural ability that lies within their own eyes.

 

[Stark]

experience...................................

I doubt Itachi has been going around training his Tsukuyomi at the cost of his eye sight. I believe they all has different enhancements of different EMS/MS abilities.

 

[Strawberry]

i see your resioning but the sharingan itself manifests differantly in every user seen physically it could just be the same operationally. like an affinity, certain users are maybe given higher control or differant abilities in areas.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Explain why his Tsukuyomi is worlds apart from Sasuke's, that doesn't erase the fact that Susano'o may be enhanced and Sasuke's Amateratsu/Blaze Release might be enhanced because of the natural ability that lies within their own eyes.

Saskue lacks the experience, intelligence, and chakra control.

 

[RealDealHollyField]

Think about it, Madara, Sasuke and Itachi all have enhanced their different MS/EMS techniques. This also leads me to believe that Sasuke and Itachi are direct decendents of Madara, they are all able to use Susano'o and Obito is not able to use Susano'o which means he stemmed from a different branch of the Uchiha Clan

And thats because they all had both eyes and obito didnt.

 

[Stark]

And thats because they all had both eyes and obito didnt.

That doesn't explain why both eyes awoke the same power.

 

[GOD2U]

Madara specialty- susanoo
Itachi Specialty- tsukyuomi
Sasuke specialty- amaterasu

Obito specialty- kamui
Shisui specialty- kotoamatsukami
Kagami specialty- possibly unseen technique

 

[Nous]

Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi. Madara doesn't have Amaterasu - show one scan where Sasuke/Madara used the respective jutsu. No, the abilities are based off the circumstances that caused the Mangekyō Sharingan to awaken. For example, Madara had awakened Susano'o which was his main technique because he wanted to protect the Uchiha Clan with his power and might. Sasuke specializes in Amaterasu/Enton because he awakened it, wanting to rekindle the flames of the Uchiha. Itachi awakened it after Shisui died because he wanted to make his own perfect reality where the Uchiha Can survive with Konoha peacefully. Obito got Kamui because one, he is the reincarnation of reincarnation of the Rikudō and in addition to that, he wish he was there for Rin and wants to live in a different reality [Kamui Dimension/The Moon].

 

[Stark]

Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi. Madara doesn't have Amaterasu - show one scan where Sasuke/Madara used the respective jutsu. No, the abilities are based off the circumstances that caused the Mangekyō Sharingan to awaken. For example, Madara had awakened Susano'o which was his main technique because he wanted to protect the Uchiha Clan with his power and might. Sasuke specializes in Amaterasu/Enton because he awakened it, wanting to rekindle the flames of the Uchiha. Itachi awakened it after Shisui died because he wanted to make his own perfect reality where the Uchiha Can survive with Konoha peacefully. Obito got Kamui because one, he is the reincarnation of reincarnation of the Rikudō and in addition to that, he wish he was there for Rin and wants to live in a different reality [Kamui Dimension/The Moon].

Go under Naruto Wiki, Sasuke and Madara both have Tsukuyomi and Amateratsu, just because we have not seen them doesn't mean they don't have it.


I believe Sasuke is using Tsukuyomi, Danzo states his is far cry from Itachi's

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[Nous]

Go under Naruto Wiki, Sasuke and Madara both have Tsukuyomi and Amateratsu, just because we have not seen them doesn't mean they don't have it.


I believe Sasuke is using Tsukuyomi, Danzo states his is far cry from Itachi's

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#1 - NarutoWikia is a fan-based site. It is not always accurate, for example I once saw Yahiko labelled as a female..
#2 - Why would Madara and Sasuke have Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi? No reasoning behind them possessing all three.. also, don't you think Madara would use Amaterasu against Hashirama if he had it?
#3 - No, that's just Danzou comparing Sasuke's Genjutsu to Itachi's Tsukuyomi.. nothing special.

 

[Stark]

#1 - NarutoWikia is a fan-based site. It is not always accurate, for example I once saw Yahiko labelled as a female..
#2 - Why would Madara and Sasuke have Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi? No reasoning behind them possessing all three.. also, don't you think Madara would use Amaterasu against Hashirama if he had it?
#3 - No, that's just Danzou comparing Sasuke's Genjutsu to Itachi's Tsukuyomi.. nothing special.

So Itachi has all 3 while Madara just has Susano'o? Wouldn't it make more sense if Madara had all 3 as well. But it's true, Naruto Wiki isn't always as resourceful as it seems.

 

[Nidds]

Itachi actually is the only Uchiha in this series to showcase all 3 MS techs.

He's used Amaterasu, albeit not Blaze Release
He's used Tsukoyumi.....his genjutsu specialty
His Susanoo's not amazing like Madara's, but he has the sacred item which make it deadly

Both Sasuke and Madara could theoretically use all 3 by definition of MS. But Sasuke lacks genjutsu experience like Itachi. And Madara is....well Madara.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Explain why his Tsukuyomi is worlds apart from Sasuke's, that doesn't erase the fact that Susano'o may be enhanced and Sasuke's Amateratsu/Blaze Release might be enhanced because of the natural ability that lies within their own eyes.

This isn't exactly right. Sasuke can give shape to and manipulate Amaterasu with his right eye manifesting Enton: Kagutsuchi, Itachi can manipulate time within MS genjutsu with his left eye manifesting Tsukuyomi. Manipulation manifests the technique, Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi in the same way Itachi doesn't have Enton: Kagutsuchi.

EDIT: Also, the only reason people believe both Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu are needed for Susanoo is the myth behind it and a databook statement. Kagu-Tsuchi also ties into this myth. He is the Shinto God of Fire that burned his mother, Izanami, to death at birth. Afterward, his father, Izanagi, cut Kagu-Tsuchi into pieces with the Sword of Totsuka (that he later passed down to his younger son, Susanoo) and scattered them across the earth creating multiple volcanoes. In his grief, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo were born.

 

[nykodre]

Great Points!!! i actually can believe this if it were to be true

 

[Multiply]

Obito lacks a second eye. When he awakened MS he had 1 MS so, that's likely the reason Ameterasu, and Susanoo weren't included. He only got 1/3 of the deal, being Tsukuyomi. U_U

 

[Stark]

Obito lacks a second eye. When he awakened MS he had 1 MS so, that's likely the reason Ameterasu, and Susanoo weren't included. He only got 1/3 of the deal, being Tsukuyomi. U_U

So he awoke Tsukuyomi and Kamui in one eye? :leaf:

 

[Multiply]

So he awoke Tsukuyomi and Kamui in one eye? :leaf:

Did he not have Kamui from 3 tomoe sharingan? He achieved tsukuyomi in MS. :|

 

[Stark]

Did he not have Kamui from 3 tomoe sharingan? He achieved tsukuyomi in MS. :|

No that is a MS technique, why do you think Kakashi activates Kamui while using MS, it's the same for Obito.

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