[Discussion] What i learnt from naruto anime

[Sarahmint]

The third one, Sasuke taught you that or kakashi? That was Kakashis speak to Sasuke, only for Shikamaru to be told "let it out" and have his revenge supported.

 

[GhostProject]

I'm being completely serious here, I don't think you got the right messages from this show.

Naruto teaches us that peace can be achieved when people learn to truly forgive, and that can only happen when someone takes responsibility and sets an example.

He also taught me that you don't have to be what others say you are, and it's never too late to change.

Naruto taught me that family and friends are among the most important things in life(the king, how he adores his friends). Without others to fill your heart, pain and hatred will creep in.

Naruto showed me that being a good person doesn't mean you'll be acknowledged for being a good person. He showed me that you have to work to gain relationships with people by exhibiting who you are, and naturally being a good person will bring friends to you.

Naruto taught me that being lazy will get you no where. You can't expect things to be given to you, whether it's friends, jobs, recognition, etc, you have to earn it.

Most importantly Naruto taught me to live every day to the fullest. You don't always get second chances in life, so make sure to do your best and improve the lives of others as much as you can.

The fact that Naruto's best friend showed no loyalty for most of the series, then (probably) came back to him, is a perfect example of how determination and doing the right thing is the best way to do things.

It's not okay for others to take advantage of you, and that's not what Naruto is about. You don't have to be friends with those people, but by being a good person you can only hope to Help them take a turn for the better.

Everyone will take different things from this show, but the thing that everyone should take from it is to never give up. Stand by your conviction, and never give in to the fear of failing.

Sorry for the long Reply.

No I thank you for the long reply, there's a lot that can be discussed.

I did pick up these messages though from the show, and I love em. It's why I've been really into this manga since I read it in a 2001 (I think) Shonen Jump. Sadly, I cannot say that I learned many of them to be true.

I should not have been so blanket with my statements, however, Naruto does have a few messages that I would consider true and good, such as never giving up, not having to be what others say you are, and especially not fearing failure.

I guess my main discrepancy are with the messages involving bonds and such. I just think that this whole "fill your heart with friends,family,etc," that to me is the main message of Naruto, just sort of encourages dependency. Friends and family are fine to have, but in my experience it is better that one would not lean or grow a dependency on others for personal balance. Sometimes you are alone, and you can't depend on anyone.

In my experience also, being a good person, showing your convictions, being yourself all break some sort of status quo that cause you to stick out, making you more a target than someone others will look to. There are a few more things to be said here, but overall I think Naruto's messages involving social dynamics are off. Naruto only became respected because he saved the entire village from death, they had to like him, less so than it being because who he was as a person. Being a good spirited and hard working person guarantees nothing in life even when you have such values, not even friends really.

As you pointed out, there are many themes and some of them are extremely true with a good attitude. The ones about defying the majority, defying the odds, having courage as an underdog or outcast, are all great. But these latest ones that seem hopelessly optimistic and sort of fly in the face of what I've seen and experienced in most of my life, especially within common places as schools and work. As much as I don't try to deny inherent good in people, most people still are not good even when they have the chance.

It's sort of these overbearing messages about how others react to one person's goodness and hard work, even family and friends, is just overall false from my understanding.

Anyways, I feel like a cynical scrooge now :| but that was more detailed version of what I was meaning in my post. I just find certain messages of Kishi believable, specifically his one about personal and independent values, but others it seems to pan out almost opposite in real life.

Sorry for my own wall of text as well