What happened to the Hyuuga clans chakra?

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The Byakugan is so powerful Kaguya had it.
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But their chakra is so weak compared to the Uchiha and they both have dojutsus from the ancestor of chakra


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What happened?
 

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Hyuuga are direct descendants from Hamaru. That's is why their Byakugan and chakra are weak compared to Kaguya's.

Uchiha powers are different as their power is inherited from Indra who inherited from the Sage himself.
 

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Their chakra was never weak, it's just as strong as Hagoromo's descendants because they come from Kaguya's lineage. The only reason it seems weak is because Kishi nerfed them by not making them display ninjutsu feats.
 

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Kaguya is an Otsutsuki, and the Hyuuga are probably a byproduct of deluded genes. *incoming fan fiction theory*

I'm not sure whether the Last talked about Hamura's Otsutsuki branch, but for instance if they came to Earth, it's possible that the Otsutuski whom look like Kaguya, Momoshiki, Hagoromo, etc., all bred with humans which results in the Hyuuga Clan today, which is why they look normal (outside of the Byakugan eye of course) and don't have horns.

Why the Hyuuga Clan isn't as a strong as the Otsutsuki, or the other top tier clans probably has to do with the fact that the Eye itself was never powerful to begin with. It depends on the user. Most Otsutsuki if Kinishiki level, had amazing bodies (strength, speed, and reaction time) or had other Dojutsu (Sharinengan, Rinnegan, etc.,) which coexisted with the Byakugan to enhance their overall abilities. In contrast to the Uchiha, their eyes are powerful to where one can manifest a ability like Kamui, whom was once a weakling before, could now stand against a Hokage level shinobi with the right experience.

Since the Hyuuga Clan has neither (amazing body) or a coexisting power, it's obviously why they are average compared to the Uchiha whom are known for their special eye powers (MS) and the Senju whom have body powers (?).
 
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Kaguya is an Otsutsuki, and the Hyuuga are probably a byproduct of deluded genes. *incoming fan fiction theory*

I'm not sure whether the Last talked about Hamura's Otsutsuki branch, but for instance if they came to Earth, it's possible that the Otsutuski whom look like Kaguya, Momoshiki, Hagoromo, etc., all bred with humans which results in the Hyuuga Clan today, which is why they look normal and don't have horns (outside of the Byakugan eye of course).

Why the Hyuuga Clan isn't as a stronger as the former clans probably has to do with the fact that the Eye itself was never powerful to begin with. It depends on the user. Most Otsutsuki if Kinishiki level, had amazing bodies (strength, speed, and reaction time) or had other Dojutsu (Sharinengan, Rinnegan, etc.,) which coexisted with the Byakugan to enhance their overall abilities.

Since the Hyuuga Clan has neither (amazing body) or a coexisting power, it's obviously why they are average compared to the Uchiha whom are known for their special eye powers (MS) and the Senju whom have body powers (?).
BS, their juken is one of the most broken techs in NV and the eye has better insight than Sharingan so the user can read movement better than Uchiha.
 

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They're garbage and always were outside of neji & 2 hyped chars pregaiden..

Considering kaguya was a rushed cop out cuz Madz solos all but m'Lord.. the hyuga were never meant to rise above their station as the lesser branch between hamura/hags

Uchiha=/=Senju and hyuga are fodderishly below them..

Bonito is supposed to pick up their slack :lmao:
 

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BS, their juken is one of the most broken techs in NV and the eye has better insight than Sharingan so the user can read movement better than Uchiha.
Jyuuken isn't an eye ability, and the insight doesn't provide the same power as one would get if they unlocked MS Sharingan per se.

Seeing things the Sharingan cannot =/= Being as powerful as the Sharingan
 

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Their chakra was never weak, it's just as strong as Hagoromo's descendants because they come from Kaguya's lineage. The only reason it seems weak is because Kishi nerfed them by not making them display ninjutsu feats.
They can't display something they never possessed. How do you know their chakra isn't weak?

Indra chose Sasuke/MAdara as his reincarnation. Without that their chakra is nothing special.
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BS, their juken is one of the most broken techs in NV and the eye has better insight than Sharingan so the user can read movement better than Uchiha.
Lol Jyuken isn't a eye power byakugan in general just give good insight that's it. Jyuken is made to compliment the byakugan fam.
 

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The Byakugan is so powerful Kaguya had it.
:O

But their chakra is so weak compared to the Uchiha and they both have dojutsus from the ancestor of chakra


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What happened?
There chakra is no where near weak a 13 year old was child matched the nine tails



And we all know as you grow your body and chakar both get stronger

And also didn't the rotation stopped the the ten-tails
 

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Jyuuken isn't an eye ability
Yes but Byakugan users are born with Juken, Hyuga are born with both powers. And it technically is an eye ability because if you notice the eyes activate whenever they use it, even Kaguya had her dojutsu activated when she used eighty gods vaccum attack.

and the insight doesn't provide the same power as one would get if they unlocked MS Sharingan per se.
Well having insight is part of the reason dojutsu users are considered strong. The ability to read movement, see chakra and see through genjutsu are very useful for defence and counter attack strategy.

Seeing things the Sharingan cannot =/= Being as powerful as the Sharingan
True, but Byakugan + Juken = as powerful as Sharingan

The ability to destroy chakra gives the Byakugan user potential to counter all ninjutsu which means Sharingan and Rinnegan techs would all be useless.

Lol Jyuken isn't a eye power byakugan in general just give good insight that's it. Jyuken is made to compliment the byakugan fam.
I know but it's meant to be used by the Byakugan
 

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They can't display something they never possessed. How do you know their chakra isn't weak?
Uhmmm the fact they're descendants of Kaguya like Uchiha. And the fact Hamura possessed Kaguya's chakra like Hagoromo. And saying they can't use ninjutsu is just wrong when they have the best chakra control out of all the clans.

Kishi never made them use ninjutsu because they're already unstoppable in close range combat that giving them long range feats would be too OP for characters that aren't MCs.
 

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They can't display something they never possessed. How do you know their chakra isn't weak?



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Word of mouth from Obito who was also clearly lying about being Madara.
OT: I don't think their chakra is weak per se though. I mean see what Hiashi did to a Juubi arm with only wall palm right?
 

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Yes but Byakugan users are born with Juken, Hyuga are born with both powers. And it technically is an eye ability because if you notice the eyes activate whenever they use it, even Kaguya had her dojutsu activated when she used eighty gods vaccum attack.



Well having insight is part of the reason dojutsu users are considered strong. The ability to read movement, see chakra and see through genjutsu are very useful for defence and counter attack strategy.



True, but Byakugan + Juken = as powerful as Sharingan

The ability to destroy chakra gives the Byakugan user potential to counter all ninjutsu which means Sharingan and Rinnegan techs would all be useless.



I know but it's meant to be used by the Byakugan
Anyone can use it really. It's just more effective with byakugan's insight. In general Byakugan is the weakest doujutsu.
 

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Uhmmm the fact they're descendants of Kaguya like Uchiha. And the fact Hamura possessed Kaguya's chakra like Hagoromo. And saying they can't use ninjutsu is just wrong when they have the best chakra control out of all the clans.

Kishi never made them use ninjutsu because they're already unstoppable in close range combat that giving them long range feats would be too OP for characters that aren't MCs.
Chakra control has little to do with it. It's about the capacity to learn something and going out and doing it. Hyuuga clan is known for their tai not nin.
 

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Word of mouth from Obito who was also clearly lying about being Madara.
OT: I don't think their chakra is weak per se though. I mean see what Hiashi did to a Juubi arm with only wall palm right?
He lied about being Madara.The history wasn't a lie.
 

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Yes but Byakugan users are born with Juken, Hyuga are born with both powers. And it technically is an eye ability because if you notice the eyes activate whenever they use it, even Kaguya had her dojutsu activated when she used eighty gods vaccum attack.
I mean sure they can target Chakra if they awaken the Byakugan, but you need skill to actually land good hits. Compare Hinata using Jyuuken against Neji in contrast to War Arc Hinata who finally learned 64 palms.



YWell having insight is part of the reason dojutsu users are considered strong. The ability to read movement, see chakra and see through genjutsu are very useful for defence and counter attack strategy.
I don't think it offers the same level as a 3Tomoe.



YTrue, but Byakugan + Juken = as powerful as Sharingan

The ability to destroy chakra gives the Byakugan user potential to counter all ninjutsu which means Sharingan and Rinnegan techs would all be useless.
Imo:

Average Byakugan user > Average 2 Tomoe Sharingan User

Average Third Tomoe Sharingan User > Average Byakugan User
 
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