What Exactly Makes War Arc Rinne Sasuke Beat hashirama?

[Ambivalence]

If you're actually asking that, you need to reread the manga.

 

[TheSages456]

Indra's Arrow is the only thing that puts him above Hashirama. I'm not sure what all of these delusional blitz arguments I'm seeing above are coming from, but it's pretty comical for people to think that this would happen with Kishimoto writing the fight. Subjective interpretation of feats and portrayal don't allow it either.

I'm not really sure why people are grasping at straws arguing for a speed blitz when Shin casually intercepted & countered him in CQC. Just shows how the fanbase can't form a coherent argument, therefore will just resort to random drivel.

-Sasuke's PS possesses no feat to separate it from Madara's bar PS chidori.

-Six Paths Sage Mode possesses greater sensing ability than Sage Mode. This is fact, however Sasuke only hit Naruto while he was blocking A Katon and he still physically reacted by turning around & guarding.
Hashirama doesn't need to physically react. He easily mentally reacts to Amenotejikara by sprouting body Mokuton with growing speed surpassing the speed of Sasuke's own Susano'o arrows.

-Amaterasu is countered by purging the burning area with body sprouted Mokuton.

-Sasuke's CT can't even do anything to the Mokujin featwise. His CT were PS sized.

Any version of Sasuke bar VOTE 2 gets pasted the moment Shinsuusenju comes out.

 

[Uchiha boii]

Well hashi cant regenerate being bisected? Can he ? since sasuke can bisect jubbi jinn madara with just foot speed and easily impale him with ameno hashi has no chance seeing as ems madara is around hashis level in speed jubbi jin is way faster so hashi wont b able to react to ameno or sasukes footspeed and since hashi cant regenerate its pretty simple

 

[Uchiha boii]

Indra's Arrow is the only thing that puts him above Hashirama. I'm not sure what all of these delusional blitz arguments I'm seeing above are coming from, but it's pretty comical for people to think that this would happen with Kishimoto writing the fight. Subjective interpretation of feats and portrayal don't allow it either.

I'm not really sure why people are grasping at straws arguing for a speed blitz when Shin casually intercepted & countered him in CQC. Just shows how the fanbase can't form a coherent argument, therefore will just resort to random drivel.

-Sasuke's PS possesses no feat to separate it from Madara's bar PS chidori.

-Six Paths Sage Mode possesses greater sensing ability than Sage Mode. This is fact, however Sasuke only hit Naruto while he was blocking A Katon and he still physically reacted by turning around & guarding.
Hashirama doesn't need to physically react. He easily mentally reacts to Amenotejikara by sprouting body Mokuton with growing speed surpassing the speed of Sasuke's own Susano'o arrows.

-Amaterasu is countered by purging the burning area with body sprouted Mokuton.

-Sasuke's CT can't even do anything to the Mokujin featwise. His CT were PS sized.

Any version of Sasuke bar VOTE 2 gets pasted the moment Shinsuusenju comes out.

The entire thread disagrees with you and jubbi jin obito is above hashi as stated by hashi himself madara as jubbi jin is far above obito so much so the same two ridiculously overpowered main characters had to die then come back to life even more ridiculously overpowered to fight someone who had recieved the EXCACT same power up as the former villian if that doesnt show you hashi is out of his leaugue here idk what to tell you

 

[TheSages456]

The entire thread disagrees with you and jubbi jin obito is above hashi as stated by hashi himself madara as jubbi jin is far above obito so much so the same two ridiculously overpowered main characters had to die then come back to life even more ridiculously overpowered to fight someone who had recieved the EXCACT same power up as the former villian if that doesnt show you hashi is out of his leaugue here idk what to tell you

What are you talking about? The thread disagrees? I couldn't care less :lol

All of the argumentation I've seen here so far is subpar.

Any version of Naruto & Sasuke bar their VOTE 2 versions lose against any Ten Tails Jinchuriki. Sasuke can't do anything to Ten Tails Madara on his lonesome whether it be one-eye pre Shinju or double Rinnegan, so I don't know what you're going on about.
Sasuke loses against Obito when the Sword of Nunoboko comes out and runs through his PS like a hot knife through butter.

 

[Radice]

Some fact for some disillusioned

Hashirama said Obito a weak Jinchuurikin is stronger than him

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Minato confirmed Madara is much more stronger and have more sage chakra than Obito

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Madara didn't have speed to counter ameno

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It's true Sasuke can't kill a Juubi Jinchuurikin only with this.
But Unlike any Juubi Jinchuurikin.

Hashirama Can't regenerate from being bisected and don't have super reaction and speed from the Juubi to survive and counter ameno.

This is ridiculous. hashirama is around EMS Madara level in speed while jubbi Madara jin is an entire universe more faster

 

[Uchiha boii]

What are you talking about? The thread disagrees? I couldn't care less :lol

All of the argumentation I've seen here so far is subpar.

Any version of Naruto & Sasuke bar their VOTE 2 versions lose against any Ten Tails Jinchuriki. Sasuke can't do anything to Ten Tails Madara on his lonesome whether it be one-eye pre Shinju or double Rinnegan, so I don't know what you're going on about.
Sasuke loses against Obito when the Sword of Nunoboko comes out and runs through his PS like a hot knife through butter.

Your in denial the post below yours has all the scans i need to prove sasuke fodder stomps hashi what dont you get? Sasuke is faster then hashi can react to therefore he gets bisected just lije madara and without the regen feats of a jubbi jin hashi dies right then and there

 

[TheSages456]

Your in denial the post below yours has all the scans i need to prove sasuke fodder stomps hashi what dont you get? Sasuke is faster then hashi can react to therefore he gets bisected just lije madara and without the regen feats of a jubbi jin hashi dies right then and there

You're the one in denial here :lol

The two scans posted above show:

-Sasuke swapping with his sword at the very last second before Madara reaches him, resulting in Madara impaling himself.
-Madara letting Sasuke cut him so he could escape to the Kamui dimension to get his other eye.

Sasuke's supposed "blitz speed" can't even blitz Shin. The speed tiers that you are bringing up are nonexistent. I don't need to post proof that Hashirama can react to Sasuke. That's complete lunacy.
It should go without saying that shinobi of that caliber would react to him, because there isn't a shred of evidence that implies otherwise.
The only move that can blitz Hashirama & shinobi of his caliber without physical reaction is an already executed Night Gai. Nothing else.

 

[Uchiha boii]

You're the one in denial here :lol

The two scans posted above show:

-Sasuke swapping with his sword at the very last second before Madara reaches him, resulting in Madara impaling himself.
-Madara letting Sasuke cut him so he could escape to the Kamui dimension to get his other eye.

Sasuke's supposed "blitz speed" can't even blitz Shin. The speed tiers that you are bringing up are nonexistent. I don't need to post proof that Hashirama can react to Sasuke. That's complete lunacy.
It should go without saying that shinobi of that caliber would react to him, because there isn't a shred of evidence that implies otherwise.
The only move that can blitz Hashirama & shinobi of his caliber without physical reaction is an already executed Night Gai. Nothing else.

wow completely idiotic i hate to insult people but come on here HOW THE HELL DOES HASHI GET AWAY FROM AMENO he doesn't its that simple madara got impaled so would hashi madara got bisected so would hashi your trying to make hashi out to be stronger than he is when he has been surpassed since juubito trying to downplay sasuke injuring a juubi jin on madaras level isnt helping your argument if im fighting you and am forced to retreat to get something more powerful im losing and if in the process i get CUT IN HALF thats saying im losing and no madara didnt let himself get cut in half who in their right mind actually wants to b bisected ? No one

 

[DominiqueX]

- Rinnegan genjutsu plus Amaterasu = Hashirama burns to death
- Rinnegan genjutsu plus Amenotejikara = Hashirama looses his head
- Chibaku Tensei without a black sphere = Hashirama is caught like a Pokemon

If Madara was able to dodge Mokuton: Kajukai Kōrin (the paralysis flowers), then Sasuke is able to do so as well. If not even better, considering that he possesses Enton.

 

[The Necromancer]

You're the one in denial here :lol

The two scans posted above show:

-Sasuke swapping with his sword at the very last second before Madara reaches him, resulting in Madara impaling himself.
-Madara letting Sasuke cut him so he could escape to the Kamui dimension to get his other eye.

Sasuke's supposed "blitz speed" can't even blitz Shin. The speed tiers that you are bringing up are nonexistent. I don't need to post proof that Hashirama can react to Sasuke. That's complete lunacy.
It should go without saying that shinobi of that caliber would react to him, because there isn't a shred of evidence that implies otherwise.
The only move that can blitz Hashirama & shinobi of his caliber without physical reaction is an already executed Night Gai. Nothing else.

This might be the dumbest post I've read on here.

 

[Filo]

I don't know, but it could be related to the full half of Hagoromo's chakra boosting his speed, strength, and chakra. Just maybe.

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

....bruh

 

[LoZelda101]

TBH, His Speed even in EMS would've given Hashirama issues, so giving him the arsenal to utilize it, and the reserves to amplify it destroy Hashirama. That is even without factoring in the Six Paths, which would make all wood construct other than Mokujin or Shinsenjuu null and void.

No.

Without Rinnegan, war arc sasuke is not beating hashi in sagemode

 

[LoZelda101]

I mean think about it. What exactly can he use that hasnt been done before.
Rinnegan?

PS?? Self explanatory.

Amateratsu? Mokuton Pushes It Aside.

Chidori? Ha Right

Amenotijikara? Hashi just as good at clone feints as Naruto tbh.

Rinne Sasuke only way to really Win this is Chibaku tensei.


But can CT still maintain even if the user is out cold from Deep Forest Bloom

Or Dead from Navity of world a of Trees?


Dont get me wrong Rinne Sasuke War Arc is OP.

But OP doesnt always beat Hax.

Since everyone is wanking sasuke(rightfully justified). Should keep in mind we never seen hashi in fullpower. Edo tensei may have improved but their living form is still their peak. Which only madara was lucky enough to become the living again and look how easy he stomped once he did.

 

[LoZelda101]

Rinnegan genjutsu negs hashirama or keeps him subdued long enough for sasuke to warp towards him and cut his head off. and lol at last sentence when sasuke is way more haxxed than hashirama

It's not rinnegan gen. It's mangekyou gen. The tamoes represent his MS powers is on.... Sigh

 

[TheSages456]

wow completely idiotic i hate to insult people but come on here HOW THE HELL DOES HASHI GET AWAY FROM AMENO he doesn't its that simple madara got impaled so would hashi madara got bisected so would hashi your trying to make hashi out to be stronger than he is when he has been surpassed since juubito trying to downplay sasuke injuring a juubi jin on madaras level isnt helping your argument if im fighting you and am forced to retreat to get something more powerful im losing and if in the process i get CUT IN HALF thats saying im losing and no madara didnt let himself get cut in half who in their right mind actually wants to b bisected ? No one

-The situation with Madara and Sasuke's sword is really specific. I don't see Hashirama running towards Sasuke,then Sasuke swapping with his sword, impaling Hashirama.

-Madara let Sasuke cut him so he could get his other eye. There isn't any reason to continue debating if you think that Sasuke can blitz Madara when he reacted to someone multiple times faster with no trouble(8th gate Gai)

-Madara retreated from both Sasuke & Naruto, not Sasuke alone.

I'm done here. Every single argument from the Sasuke side in this thread has been absolute cancer to read

 

[Vulpini]

Taka Sasuke probably solos Hashirama mid diff.

 

[King Of Pop]

must always be that one retard in a thread lol. using shin intercepting a katon form a weakened sasuke who ameno some distance behind him(its not like he attacked him directly in a blizing manner) as evidence of a full power sasuke failing when sasuke has canonically blized jj madara with chidori. smh, absolute clown

 

[Uchiha boii]

-The situation with Madara and Sasuke's sword is really specific. I don't see Hashirama running towards Sasuke,then Sasuke swapping with his sword, impaling Hashirama.

-Madara let Sasuke cut him so he could get his other eye. There isn't any reason to continue debating if you think that Sasuke can blitz Madara when he reacted to someone multiple times faster with no trouble(8th gate Gai)
-Madara retreated from both Sasuke & Naruto, not Sasuke alone.

I'm done here. Every single argument from the Sasuke side in this thread has been absolute cancer to read

Yeah just leave you obviously have 0 reading comprehension if you honestly believe the complete garbage you are spewing hashi will never react to ameno nor will he ever beat a 6paths enhanched character his time is over he was surpassed get over it