What exactly is wrong with being gay? CONT

[Made in Heaven]

Bukhari (6:301) - continued - "[Muhammad said] 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her religion.'"

Allah forcibly caused women to be unable to practice Islam as men are able to; why would God do this, unless he intended to make women inferior? Women are also objectified to an extent, given that a man can have multiple wives, but not the other way around.

You're just a homophobe (your gender was initially male, and now it's female; you're probably a closeted homosexual yourself) who projects his hatred for his own deviances outwardly. You know little to nothing about your own religion, and the fallacies you present in arguments are pathetic (you used the slippery-slope fallacy earlier). Just log out, and do not come back.​

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She can't pray because it makes her dirty. Similar to a man having a wet dream. She, however, can make it up later on when it is over. Also, this is in FAVOR of the woman, as praying and fasting would be harmful to her when she is in such a state.

Woman are not inferior; in Islam, men and woman are equal, but still differen. Example, Mothers are to be respected three times more than the father.

A man having multiple wives is due to the fact that, in case you didn't know, there are more woman then men in the world. A lot of men also tend to die in wars and criminal acts than woman would, so this leaves woman without men or as a widow. [think WW2]

It's a man's responsibility to take care of children and woman and the elderly. However, woman ARe permitted to work

A man can't marry a second third o fourth wife without his first wife's approval.

 

[Turson]

I dont give acrap about what people do in their bedrooms. However, I wouldnt allow gay people to adopt children.

 

[Made in Heaven]

tell me you're joking about this faces being natural, please tell me.

It was sarcasm, to show how stupid it sounds to claim complex creations come to being without a creator.

You proved my point correct.

 

[Avani]

Re: stop this bullshit of being gay and lesbian

Actually, I managed to "win" some debates(with arguments, I proved my point and the person said he/she was wrong and agreed) here in NB. I changed, like, 5 minds, 6, Idk. Still, in the internet, that's quite a feat.

About the issues they believed for real as in the real world? Are you sure they just didn't want to continue arguing and wanted to be out politely?

OT: People calling each other evil/stupid/whatever name calling and emotional arguments are not really my idea of objective debate. It all started today with someone questioning whether another country had a right to pass a certain law or not. Rest of the debate is the same as I have been seeing here for 5 years.

 

[North Kai]

gays cause hurricanes!!

Spoiler

no they don't, they are caused by warm water and moist air and high and low barometric pressure

why did I put that big red piece of nonsense up there? idk, maybe to show how stupid homophobia is

#betolerant
#dontbeahater
#logic
#gayrights
#homophobiaisstupid

seriously though, remember, LOVE IS ALWAYS A HURRICANE!!

 

[Made in Heaven]

but wouldn't that mean that it is illogical to say that noone created god since he would be more complicated than our reality, and with your logic it is only logical to say that someone had to create the one who created god ... that logic creates an infinite paradox and is therefore illogical

You're the illogical one, my friend

It would be irrational to posit more than one cause for the universe, as an infinite regress of causes is impossible. The reasons for this include the absurdity of the actual infinite existing in reality; take the following examples into consideration,

1. You have an infinite number of people in a room, if I take two people away, how many do you have left? The answer is infinity minus two. However does this make sense? If there are less than an infinite number of people in a room you should be able to count that number in the real world. But you can’t, in other words the infinite doesn’t make sense in the real world. In light of this Mathematicians Kasman and Newman state “The infinite certainly does not exist in the same sense that we say ‘There are fish in the sea’”.

2. Imagine I am a soldier and I want to shoot an enemy. In order for me to shoot I have to ask permission from the soldier behind me to shoot, but he has also has to ask permission from the soldier behind him to shoot, now imagine this continued forever, in other words an infinite amount of time? Will I ever shoot the enemy? The answers is plain obvious. In the same light an infinite regress of causes for the universe would mean there would be no universe in existence in the first place. So the conclusion that the universe has a single independent uncaused cause seems quite plausible, however you can still posit a plurality of causes all occurring at the same time. Is this a sound argument? I believe it is not strong argument if we take Ockham’s Razor into consideration. Ockham’s Razor is a philosophical principle attributed to the 14th century logician and Franciscan friar William of Ockham. This principle enjoins “Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate”, in English “Plurality should not be posited without necessity.” In other words the simplest and most comprehensive explanation is the best explanation.

 

[itachi4real]

Wtf another gay thread. Imo gay is not human nature. Humans were meant to reproduce. How tf are u gonna reproduce when the number of gays are going up

 

[reizon]

gays cause hurricanes!!

Spoiler

no they don't, they are caused by warm water and moist air and high and low barometric pressure

why did I put that big red piece of nonsense up there? idk, maybe to show how stupid homophobia is

#betolerant
#dontbeahater
#logic
#gayrights
#homophobiaisstupid

seriously though, remember, LOVE IS ALWAYS A HURRICANE!!

Ohh king kai, did you come here to lighten the mood with your harsh comments.??

XD

ITS HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ITS A NARUTO SITE.!!

XD

 

[Turson]

Woman are not inferior; in Islam, men and woman are equal, but still differen. Example, Mothers are to be respected three times more than the father.

Laws and reality are two different things, unfortunately. Truth it, women are treated as inferior to men in most of muslim countries.

 

[Prime Rib]

tell me you're joking about this faces being natural, please tell me.

God created it not allah.

 

[ObitoKarin]

I know this is redundant but I feel like it's not our business what the LGBTQ do.

If a man wants to be with a man, let him. If a woman wants to be with a woman, let her. People shouldn't have to put themselves in their business because it's just going to be between them and the God or Allah, or whatever you believe in. But until then people should still accept them since they are still people. Again, this is not a demand it's just a request.

 

[accept pain]

but wouldn't that mean that it is illogical to say that noone created god since he would be more complicated than our reality, and with your logic it is only logical to say that someone had to create the one who created god ... that logic creates an infinite paradox and is therefore illogical

Praise is due to Allah whose worth cannot be described by speakers, whose bounties cannot be counted by calculators and whose claim (to obedience) cannot be satisfied by those who attempt to do so, whom the height of intellectual courage cannot appreciate, and the divings of understanding cannot reach; He for whose description no limit has been laid down, no eulogy exists, no time is ordained and no duration is fixed.

He brought forth creation through His Omnipotence, dispersed winds through His Compassion, and made firm the shaking earth with rocks.

The foremost in religion is the acknowledgement of Him, the perfection of acknowledging Him is to testify Him, the perfection of testifying Him is to believe in His Oneness, the perfection of believing in His Oneness is to regard Him Pure, and the perfection of His purity is to deny Him attributes, because every attribute is a proof that it is different from that to which it is attributed and everything to which something is attributed is different from the attribute.

Thus whoever attaches attributes to Allah recognises His like, and who recognises His like regards Him two; and who regards Him two recognises parts for Him; and who recognises parts for Him mistook Him; and who mistook Him pointed at Him; and who pointed at Him admitted limitations for Him; and who admitted limitations for Him numbered Him.

Whoever said in what is He, held that He is contained; and whoever said on what is He held He is not on something else. He is a Being but not through phenomenon of coming into being. He exists but not from non-existence. He is with everything but not in physical nearness. He is different from everything but not in physical separation. He acts but without connotation of movements and instruments. He sees even when there is none to be looked at from among His creation. He is only One, such that there is none with whom He may keep company or whom He may miss in his absence.

 

[Douryoku]

She can't pray because it makes her dirty. Similar to a man having a wet dream. She, however, can make it up later on when it is over. Also, this is in FAVOR of the woman, as praying and fasting would be harmful to her when she is in such a state.

Woman are not inferior; in Islam, men and woman are equal, but still differen. Example, Mothers are to be respected three times more than the father.

A man having multiple wives is due to the fact that, in case you didn't know, there are more woman then men in the world. A lot of men also tend to die in wars and criminal acts than woman would, so this leaves woman without men or as a widow. [think WW2]

It's a man's responsibility to take care of children and woman and the elderly. However, woman ARe permitted to work

A man can't marry a second third o fourth wife without his first wife's approval.

I know why she can't pray. The point here is that God allows males to submit to him more easily then females? Yes, it would be harmful for them to pray in such a state, but why would God put them in such a state in the first place? Your reasoning is cyclical.

Yes, but there are plenty of counter-examples. I acknowledge that Islam will not completely disregard females' respect, but their are several instances in which they have been disrespected. For instance, the Qur'an says that men are a 'degree' above women:

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. It may vary based on the translation, but that seems to be the consensus.

Furthermore, homosexuality is natural. There are numerous examples of it occurring in animals, e.g., black swans is one example I can recall off the top of my head.

Moreover, homosexuality is not comparable to incest. That is, incest may give rise to genetically caused deformities in children, whereas homosexuality (inherently) cannot. Your example of 'love is love, therefore...', is just a slippery slope fallacy. There is also evidence to suggest homosexual relationships are healthier:

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. This site is reliable, because it is a government site. Anyway, if you consider homosexual marriages:

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. 1 to 2%. Homosexuality is abhorrent, is it? It's clearly working better than heterosexual relationships. The study embedded in there is by an esteemed institute; they know what they're talking about.

I would like to retract my previous insults, sir.​

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[Keimil]

i hope you realize pedophiles can love without ever being with a child. just like a men can love another man or women vice versa without ever being with them.

so yes i compared them two beccause people want to say "love" is love no matter what well love comes in many forms and shapes and meanings. so accept the truth and stop being a hyprocrite or live your life in one big lie of thinking homosexuality love is right

That is not love at all, is a sick attraction pedophiles have. No one, not even the pedophiles themselves call them love.

The big lie of thinking homosexuality love is right?
It's a fact, and there is no way to stop it, that would be going against nature...
Do you know there are 1500 species that have homosexual/bisexual behavior? Yup, look it up.

Now, you talk like gays choose to be attracted to their same gender, and that is just really ignorant.

 

[accept pain]

Laws and reality are two different things, unfortunately. Truth it, women are treated as inferior to men in most of muslim countries.

if they do,they don't belong to islamic laws

 

[Avani]

A man having multiple wives is due to the fact that, in case you didn't know, there are more woman then men in the world. A lot of men also tend to die in wars and criminal acts than woman would, so this leaves woman without men or as a widow. [think WW2]
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That data is obsolete.

Like most sexual species, the *** ratio in humans is approximately 1:1. The *** ratio at birth is commonly thought to be 106 boys to 100 girls, though this value is subject to debate in the scientific community. The *** ratio for the entire world population is 101 males to 100 females.[2]

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[Prime Rib]

Why are there so many of these threads, same arguments over and over.

cause ignorant people make them trying to spread there false opinions and beliefs that homosexuality is good etc.

and then theres the children who think they know everything between good and evil and morals but reality they dont no crap

 

[Turson]

if they do,they don't belong to islamic laws

Tell them that. Im not one of imams in Saudi Arabia who dont allow woman to drive a car.

 

[Douryoku]

are you stupid or pretended to be?

Are you gonna phrase rhetoric, or actually produce an argument? Homosexuality occurs in animals, and they have no such ideas like religion to pollute their minds. It is natural. What's more, why is something to be abandoned if it is unnatural? Is the surgical removal of cancerous tumours a 'natural' process? I did not think so.

Moreover, you should try and phrase a sentence that is grammatically coherent. Do not suggest I am lacking in intelligence, when your sentence contains two different tenses.​

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[reizon]

People defining others happiness and how they should live.!!

Coming up with theories that suit them the best.!!

When they havent gone through anything that those people have gone through.!!

Not considering the person of interest.!!

THATS WHAT EREN SAID IN ATTACK OF TITANS.!!

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