What Evidence Do We Have That Suggest Yata Mirror Is Not Invincible?

[Owarij]

Do you know the first definition of repel is?

Drive or force (an attack or attacker) back or away

1. To ward off or keep away; drive back

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A hindering or stopping of an opponent's movement or action

Make the movement or flow in (a passage, pipe, road, etc.) difficult or impossible

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madara who has knowledge of the yata mirror

Madara isn't zetsu

 

[Prince Charles]

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Madara isn't zetsu

^^^^^^ this.

 

[TheSages456]

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Madara isn't zetsu

zetsu is an extension of madara. he does not hold more knowledge than madara. zetsu has the knowledge of madara as shown when he already knew about nagato.

 

[Owarij]

zetsu is an extension of madara. he does not hold more knowledge than madara. zetsu has the knowledge of madara as shown when he already knew about nagato.

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"Looks like that susanno technique carries alot of risk"


and white zetsu asks him what susanno is, and he has no answer..

Zetsu did not know what susanno is, its side effects, nothing.. he was eager to actually see amaterasu etc... He does not hold Madara's memories.. considering Madara's trade mark jutsu is susanno

I repeat, zetsu is not madara

 

[TheSages456]

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"Looks like that susanno technique carries alot of risk"


and white zetsu asks him what susanno is, and he has no answer..

Zetsu did not know what susanno is, its side effects, nothing.. he was eager to actually see amaterasu etc... He does not hold Madara's memories.. considering Madara's trade mark jutsu is susanno

I repeat, zetsu is not madara

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zetsu is a degraded version of madaras will. he wouldnt have every single ounce of knowledge that madara has.

 

[TheSages456]

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"Looks like that susanno technique carries alot of risk"


and white zetsu asks him what susanno is, and he has no answer..

Zetsu did not know what susanno is, its side effects, nothing.. he was eager to actually see amaterasu etc... He does not hold Madara's memories.. considering Madara's trade mark jutsu is susanno

I repeat, zetsu is not madara

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zetsu is a degraded version of madaras will. he wouldnt have every single ounce of knowledge that madara has.

 

[Retsu]

the fact that nothing in this manga ever truly is invincible is enough proof for me.

 

[Owarij]

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zetsu is a degraded version of madaras will. he wouldnt have every single ounce of knowledge that madara has.

And going along with that argument, Zetsu which is half of madara stated yata mirror is completely invincible

would love to see a PS slash destroy the juubi in one slash, or even the planet they are on.. It's utterly ridiculous to take his hyperbole statement as fact , as it is utterly ridiculous to take zetsu's hyprebole statement that the yata mirror is invincible by fact

 

[TheSages456]

And going along with that argument, Zetsu which is half of madara stated yata mirror is completely invincible

would love to see a PS slash destroy the juubi in one slash, or even the planet they are on.. It's utterly ridiculous to take his hyperbole statement as fact , as it is utterly ridiculous to take zetsu's hyprebole statement that the yata mirror is invincible by fact

if you're disregarding hype, we go by feats. the mirror has shown no tanking feats that suggest that it can take a PS slash thus the mirror cant deflect all attacks.

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[Owarij]

the mirror has shown no tanking feats that suggest that it can take a PS slash thus the mirror cant deflect all attacks.

Except the mirror has displayed and confirmed its hype regarding reflecting physical attacks...

Perfect susanoo has not, especially in his fight against madara

 

[TheSages456]

Except the mirror has displayed and confirmed its hype regarding reflecting physical attacks...

Perfect susanoo has not, especially in his fight against madara

except, you didnt answer the post.

PS slashed some mountains then madara said that its blade can conquer all things in the universe. the yata mirror hasnt tanked anything even close to the level of PS sword slashes so it doesnt get durability of that level.

 

[Owarij]

the yata mirror hasnt tanked anything even close to the level of PS sword slashes so it doesnt get durability of that level.

And the point?

Are you , like the previous guy I had an argument with, asking for some sort of conclusive proof of yata mirror blocking everything possible in the universe , proof that doesn't exist because kishi DOES NOT have time to write such things nor will it follow along with his story?

As I said to the other fellow, you are debating incorrectly.. this is a hypothetical manga, and while facts are paramount, things like common sense come into play....

Madara's war fan was seen blocking naruto's tbb rasengan..
Yet has no feats of blocking , idk , lets say Sasuke's chidori..


Going by your conclusive deductive based style of argument... It has no feats of blocking chidori, thus it cannot block a chidori.. On Top of being a logical fallacy, forgetting the middle ground of possibilities, In all sense, it's completely idiotic to argue it... you don't see anyone arguing it, because people use common sense.. people use inductive reasoning.. people use Critical thinking

We have Madara proclaiming that his susanno can destroy anything in the universe... This includes stars 1million times bigger than himself... hyperbole? obviously,

we have hyperboles of yata mirror stating its invincible, once again, hyperbole? obviously...

But what isn't exaggeration here? how do you discern from fact and fake? you need only look at the article of yata mirror to see that it's also a description of the capabilities of the shield.. which has already been proven.. The databook stated it reflects physical attacks? It has reflected all physical attacks thus far

Does it have a physical form? NO, it is a spiritual weapon, a spiritual entity... how is a physical weapon, going to destroy a magical entity with no physical form?


Once again, Yata mirror is not invincible, and Perfect susanno cannot destroy the universe and everything in it with its slashes...

Because of hyperboles, hype isn't to be discarded, but analyzed and judged based on the evidence available.. rational thinking is the key to any debate

 

[HadouKage]

And the point?

Are you , like the previous guy I had an argument with, asking for some sort of conclusive proof of yata mirror blocking everything possible in the universe , proof that doesn't exist because kishi DOES NOT have time to write such things nor will it follow along with his story?

As I said to the other fellow, you are debating incorrectly.. this is a hypothetical manga, and while facts are paramount, things like common sense come into play....

Madara's war fan was seen blocking naruto's tbb rasengan..
Yet has no feats of blocking , idk , lets say Sasuke's chidori..


Going by your conclusive deductive based style of argument... It has no feats of blocking chidori, thus it cannot block a chidori.. On Top of being a logical fallacy, forgetting the middle ground of possibilities, In all sense, it's completely idiotic to argue it... you don't see anyone arguing it, because people use common sense.. people use inductive reasoning.. people use Critical thinking

We have Madara proclaiming that his susanno can destroy anything in the universe... This includes stars 1million times bigger than himself... hyperbole? obviously,

we have hyperboles of yata mirror stating its invincible, once again, hyperbole? obviously...

But what isn't exaggeration here? how do you discern from fact and fake? you need only look at the article of yata mirror to see that it's also a description of the capabilities of the shield.. which has already been proven.. The databook stated it reflects physical attacks? It has reflected all physical attacks thus far

Does it have a physical form? NO, it is a spiritual weapon, a spiritual entity... how is a physical weapon, going to destroy a magical entity with no physical form?


Once again, Yata mirror is not invincible, and Perfect susanno cannot destroy the universe and everything in it with its slashes...

Because of hyperboles, hype isn't to be discarded, but analyzed and judged based on the evidence available.. rational thinking is the key to any debate

I wasn't even going to come back here but I see a lot of things I disagree with

1. For one, your whole war fan TBB/Chidori comparison is moot because both TBB and Chidori are made of chakara. Yata feats are composed of reflecting only physical attacks, nothing more, nothing less.

2. Ironically, you infer that since yata has agreed to one thing it is said to do in the DB and its description, then it makes it true. However, you disagree with the fact that even though Raikiri has done the same, that it's hype and feats against Yata be disregarded

3. Again I quote in my previous argument, just as you stated, that Raikiri has proven it's hype by fulfilling what the DB has stated it can do, which is? Cut through anything, has it failed to cut? No

4. I really don't get your bold statement, not once in our whole debate have you provided proof of Yata reflecting an elemental based attack.

5. No not everything in Yata's DB entry has been proven