What Evidence Do We Have That Suggest Yata Mirror Is Not Invincible?

[sharingan67]

Already been debunked tons of times but fanboys never give up....

 

[Omega]

False, Yata Mirror extends and changes shape to cover attacks.

Can you giv me a link to where this is stated or proven (im not being sarcastic i really want to kno)

 

[Avinash012]

I dnt think so there are limits for every thing...........

 

[kakashi ms]

False, Yata Mirror extends and changes shape to cover attacks.

where in manga it was said that?

 

[ToruneNamikaze]

1- Madara is a character and has opinions, he isn't omniscient. He hasn't seen every jutsu in the world, let alone measure it's strength.

2. Databook is filled with hyperbolas and exaggeration. Lightning Blade is said to cut through anything, and Amaterasu was said to be as hot as the sun.

3. It tanked explosive kunais and people think it could tank TBB

4. Same could be said about Jinin of the Seven Swordsman's Kabutowari it was said to be able break through any defense, it has yet to be contradicted, you also have Sandaime Raikage's Hell Stab which was said to be the strongest weapon it has yet to be contradicted.

 

[The Necromancer]

Already been debunked tons of times but fanboys never give up....

That's just not true.

1- Madara is a character and has opinions, he isn't omniscient. He hasn't seen every jutsu in the world, let alone measure it's strength.

2. Databook is filled with hyperbolas and exaggeration. Lightning Blade is said to cut through anything, and Amaterasu was said to be as hot as the sun.

3. It tanked explosive kunais and people think it could tank TBB

4. Same could be said about Jinin of the Seven Swordsman's Kabutowari it was said to be able break through any defense, it has yet to be contradicted, you also have Sandaime Raikage's Hell Stab which was said to be the strongest weapon it has yet to be contradicted.

All i have to say is that the Yata mirror is one of two spiritual weapons in the NV. Obviously its hype should be a little more believable than a sword or jutsu.

 

[Omega]

Idk why people consider the databook so exact. Plus using other people's opinions is not mangafact. They are represented as people as flawed as we are they have opinions just like we do. So if someone says Hiruzen is the god of all shinobi we are quick to say Hash is and ignore "manga facts" but we've seen invincible people be defeated already so just stop

 

[Booker]

Already been debunked tons of times but fanboys never give up....

Show me where it was "debunked".

where in manga it was said that?

Can you giv me a link to where this is stated or proven (im not being sarcastic i really want to kno)

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Apologies, I misremembered the quote.

It changes it's attributes to match any attack. Whether that includes attacks from all sides is debatable, since it has no physical form like the Totsuka Blade.

 

[A$AP Wap]

Now what if Itachi and his Susano'o get trapped in a Jinton Cube?
I do not think that Yata Mirror would save him there.

 

[Booker]

1- Madara is a character and has opinions, he isn't omniscient. He hasn't seen every jutsu in the world, let alone measure it's strength.

2. Databook is filled with hyperbolas and exaggeration. Lightning Blade is said to cut through anything, and Amaterasu was said to be as hot as the sun.

3. It tanked explosive kunais and people think it could tank TBB

4. Same could be said about Jinin of the Seven Swordsman's Kabutowari it was said to be able break through any defense, it has yet to be contradicted, you also have Sandaime Raikage's Hell Stab which was said to be the strongest weapon it has yet to be contradicted.

Madara isn't one to over-exaggerate a jutsu. Claiming it's invincible is something coming from him.

It is filled with hyperbole, I admit, but everyone of those have been contradicted. Yata Mirror hasn't been.

Yata Mirror > Perfect Susano'o, and PS tanked a TBB. What's the point of a legendary spiritual weapon if it's just outshined by some eye technique?

The Swordsman's sword can't penetrate Yata Mirror, since Yata Mirror has no physical form. As for 3rd Raikage's hellstab, well yeah, it has yet to be contradicted. For all we know it could penetrate anything.

 

[kakashi ms]

where was yata when itachi was absorbed by nagato's chibaku tensi ?
where was yata when itachi was affected by tauya's sound ginjutsu ?
where was yata when itachi was affected by kabuto's light and sound jutus ?

why yata didn't make this jutus lose its meaning?
do you know why yata wasn't able to counter all that? i know
that is because all of these attacks is untouchable(light,sound,gravity)so kamui as them ,it is untouchable jutus
untouchable attacks>yata

databook said that kakshi's kamui is unmatched and no defense can counter it

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kishi here was talking about old kakashi's kamui ,what about current kakashi's kamui which doesn't need to be gathered for ,and can warp objects instantly without even sharingan notices

kakashi can even warp itachi while he is inside susano without warping any part of susano as kamui depend on concentrating by mind (kakashi was able to warp hatchibi although he was in kuarma's cloak,kuarma's cloak didn't block kamui)
yata protect one side only any destructive attack that can affect susano ,can affect itachi's susano from the baack(hiudora,dust,bijudoma,giant bijudoma...etc)
there are no evidence say yata can protect all susano

 

[Booker]

where was yata when itachi was absorbed by nagato's chibaku tensi ?
where was yata when itachi was affected by tauya's sound ginjutsu ?
where was yata when itachi was affected by kabuto's light and sound jutus ?

why yata didn't make this jutus lose its meaning?
do you know why yata wasn't able to counter all that? i know
that is because all of these attacks is untouchable(light,sound,gravity)so kamui as them ,it is untouchable jutus
untouchable attacks>yata

databook said that kakshi's kamui is unmatched and no defense can counter it

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kishi here was talking about old kakashi's kamui ,what about current kakashi's kamui which doesn't need to be gathered for ,and can warp objects instantly without even sharingan notices

kakashi can even warp itachi while he is inside susano without warping any part of susano as kamui depend on concentrating by mind (kakashi was able to warp hatchibi although he was in kuarma's cloak,kuarma's cloak didn't block kamui)
yata protect one side only any destructive attack that can affect susano ,can affect itachi's susano from the baack(hiudora,dust,bijudoma,giant bijudoma...etc)
there are no evidence say yata can protect all susano

Why are you bringing kamui into this?

 

[Olorin]

We have no evidence to say ten ten wont get rinnegan

 

[Jusanbi]

Yata Mirror is not invincible just as no one object, person, being, concept, idea, etc is infallible. There is always possibility in every mark of reality, spiritual object's included, even ideas are able to silenced despite the difficulty.

However it is unlikely that a canon weakness shall ever be revealed by Kishimoto in due to Itachi and Yata Mirror no longer having evident relevance in the manga any longer, therefore there is no necessity for Kishi to create or reveal a method as it is no longer significant. Nonetheless, in the event that he does, the weakness in highest probability shall be another spiritual weapon as it is a common occurrence and idea.

 

[kakashi ms]

Show me where it was "debunked".

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Apologies, I misremembered the quote.

It changes it's attributes to match any attack. Whether that includes attacks from all sides is debatable, since it has no physical form like the Totsuka Blade.

i speak about shape not attributes
that doesn't prove it can include all susano

 

[kakashi ms]

Why are you bringing kamui into this?

as example that the same databook said kamui has no counter,no defense is possible against it
and what is your answer?

note:becasue i copied it from other thread

 

[HadouKage]

(1) Madara himself stated it was invincible, and if anybody is a reliable source on that stuff it would be Madara. Madara doesn't go around exaggerating or building up egos for nothing.
(2) Databook- therefore Kishimoto- stated that Yata Mirror chanes properties to render attacks useless. How can you argue with the Author?
(3) We have nothing to sugest it isn't- the few things that have hit have been rejected.
(4) Absense of Evidence is not Evidence of Absense. Yata Mirror has been built up to be invinicble, was suggested by both knowledgable characters and Kishimoto. Obviously it is to be seen as impenetrable.

Everything you said about Yata can be said about Kamui and Raikiri

 

[The Necromancer]

i speak about shape not attributes
that doesn't prove it can include all susano

This thread is about how one can break or defeat the yata mirror, not how one can avoid it because it's unbreakable.

 

[Booker]

Everything you said about Yata can be said about Kamui and Raikiri

Your point?

Yata Mirror was created by Kishimoto after Raikiri, so Yata > Raikiri

Kamui is debatable for me. It all depends on if Kamui can go through things (I.E. through Susano'o)

 

[HadouKage]

Your point?

Yata Mirror was created by Kishimoto after Raikiri, so Yata > Raikiri

Kamui is debatable for me. It all depends on if Kamui can go through things (I.E. through Susano'o)

My point is its a paradox
Raikiri was said to cut anything and has never been proven null since