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Sasuke is just being realistic. You know, that feaature when you act on your emotions and how you feel rather than befriend everyone and act like everything is fun and games.

Sasuke's goal changing is what made the manga interesting. To be honest, I have no idea what the hell you are even trying to prove.
Isn't it logical to try to befriend everyone? No one wants to be hated/alienated, right? And people who are hated/alienated often end up hurting lots of other people. It could all be avoided...In fact, Sasuke agreed with Naruto in the end. Go read 699 again. If Naruto is naive, then Sasuke is equally naive (if not more so).
 

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Sasuke is just being realistic. You know, that feaature when you act on your emotions and how you feel rather than befriend everyone and act like everything is fun and games.

Sasuke's goal changing is what made the manga interesting. To be honest, I have no idea what the hell you are even trying to prove.
Befriend with everyone is a better feat than killing everyone, mainly in a ninja world.
You said he's being realistic ? Tobi, for example befriended him (easily) to destroy Konoha, before he just wanted to kill Itachi and (probably) return to Konoha and at the end he wanted to make a revolution...

This guy doesn't know what he wants
 

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The thing that makes Sasuke "realistic" to you is the fact that he is just a frightened child for most of the manga. It comforts you. You wouldn't be able to handle the burden Naruto put on himself. You don't even want to think about it. It's more "realistic" because you are afraid too.
 

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The thing that makes Sasuke "realistic" to you is the fact that he is just a frightened child for most of the manga. It comforts you. You wouldn't be able to handle the burden Naruto put on himself. You don't even want to think about it. It's more "realistic" because you are afraid too.
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But this fits in very well with what you're trying to get across.
 
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He was mature enough not to have any inhibitions about using such a technique, knowing that it could give him an advantage in the fight against Kaguya. That wasn't even the point though. If you haven't already experienced it, I think it will be difficult (maybe impossible) for you to understand. Just...remember this when you hit a really low point in your life :/
He isn't mature. Maybe you should look up the word mature.

Isn't it logical to try to befriend everyone? No one wants to be hated/alienated, right? And people who are hated/alienated often end up hurting lots of other people. It could all be avoided...In fact, Sasuke agreed with Naruto in the end. Go read 699 again. If Naruto is naive, then Sasuke is equally naive (if not more so).
Not everyone will want to be your friend and not everyone deserves to be your friend(Obito) so this logic is not always acceptable. Your optimism is disgusting. Not everything is about unicorns and rainbows.

Sasuke might be naive(to an extent) but at least he chooses to mind his own business and not try to force himself onto other people that don't want to be bothered by him. See where I'm getting at? Probably not.

Befriend with everyone is a better feat than killing everyone, mainly in a ninja world.
And when did Sasuke ever kill "everyone?"

You said he's being realistic ? Tobi, for example befriended him (easily) to destroy Konoha, before he just wanted to kill Itachi and (probably) return to Konoha and at the end he wanted to make a revolution...
Your examples are retarded, considering that, that's not what I meant about being "realistic." Sasuke changes just like any other 16 year old boy. When a teenager gets tired of one thing, he changes to something that he sees better.

In Sasuke's case, he had just got finished defeating his brother, or being apart of his brothers death. After that he heard the truth about his brother from Tobi, so he made a new goal. Did you expect Sasuke to just forget about Danzo and go back to Konoha. By that logic the manga would have no plot, so Kishi had to make Sasuke do something else, and it was a good move. Sasuke killed Danzo. After that he went even darker, but this was to make Sasuke more of a villain than ever, but he decided to wait and take Itachi's eyes. Itachi's revival stopped Sasuke from destroying Konoha so he defeated Kabuto along his brother and revived the Kage to help the SA.

After that he announced that he would be Hokage.
They defeated Madara and Kaguya, so then he declared that he wanted to kill the 5 kage and start his own revolution. The problem with this, is that most of you reprobates take this too literal, as this was just a way for Naruto and Sasuke to finish things, as Kishi needed a way to end Sasuke's darkness and end him off on a good sign.

Sasuke's sudden changes are what make the story persist and it keeps moving. You claiming that this is a bad thing only proves that you don't even understand how Kishi writes Sasuke and you probably just skip every panel with Sasuke because he makes you upset.

This guy doesn't know what he wants
If he didn't know what he wanted then he wouldn't be making goals now would he?
 
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And when did Sasuke ever kill "everyone?"
He wanted to make a "revolution", like a dictatorship evryone against him is an enemy and needs to be killed. And with his previous goal which was to destroy Konoha (doesn't know what he wants), he killed Danzo.

Your examples are retarded, considering that, that's not what I meant about being "realistic." Sasuke changes just like any other 16 year old boy. When a teenager gets tired of one thing, he changes to something that he sees better.

In Sasuke's case, he had just got finished defeating his brother, or being apart of his brothers death. After that he heard the truth about his brother from Tobi, so he made a new goal. Did you expect Sasuke to just forget about Danzo and go back to Konoha. By that logic the manga would have no plot, so Kishi had to make Sasuke do something else, and it was a good move. Sasuke killed Danzo. After that he went even darker, but this was to make Sasuke more of a villain than ever, but he decided to wait and take Itachi's eyes. Itachi's revival stopped Sasuke from destroying Konoha so he defeated Kabuto along his brother and revived the Kage to help the SA.

After that he announced that he would be Hokage.
They defeated Madara and Kaguya, so then he declared that he wanted to kill the 5 kage and start his own revolution. The problem with this, is that most of you reprobates take this too literal, as this was just a way for Naruto and Sasuke to finish things, as Kishi needed a way to end Sasuke's darkness and end him off on a good sign.

Sasuke's sudden changes are what make the story persist and it keeps moving. You claiming that this is a bad thing only proves that you don't even understand how Kishi writes Sasuke and you probably just skip every panel with Sasuke because he makes you upset.
- First things first, he doesn't makes me upset, I appreciate him, but I'm just saying the truth.
You said he changes his goals like a 16 y.o teen, well, Naruto is a 16 y.o teen and looks more mature than him, he never changed his nindo from the start. Even Sakura didn't change her nindo (which was to get out w/ sasuke ? nvm).

- I admit killing Danzo was a good thing, tbh, after what he did,but he treated Naruto sakura and Kakshi like $hit. He gone crazy, he trusted Obito (who helped Itachi killing Uchihas). he was too much attached to Itachi. After he learnt the truth he didn't even know who he was.

If he didn't know what he wanted then he wouldn't be making goals now would he?
I said that because he changes his goals often, but you're always denying the truth
 

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He wanted to make a "revolution", like a dictatorship evryone against him is an enemy and needs to be killed. And with his previous goal which was to destroy Konoha (doesn't know what he wants), he killed Danzo.

- First things first, he doesn't makes me upset, I appreciate him, but I'm just saying the truth.
You said he changes his goals like a 16 y.o teen, well, Naruto is a 16 y.o teen and looks more mature than him, he never changed his nindo from the start. Even Sakura didn't change her nindo (which was to get out w/ sasuke ? nvm).

- I admit killing Danzo was a good thing, tbh, after what he did,but he treated Naruto sakura and Kakshi like $hit. He gone crazy, he trusted Obito (who helped Itachi killing Uchihas). he was too much attached to Itachi. After he learnt the truth he didn't even know who he was.

I said that because he changes his goals often, but you're always denying the truth
And when was it considered a bad thing to change your goals? You act like Sasuke changing his goals is a bad thing, but that just shows that he is not a boring character.

You call Naruto more mature than Sasuke all because he keeps the same nindo? Yeah, what a load of crock that is. I find a character who spends most of his time whining about a boy that gives zero fcks about him to be the immature one.

You appreciate Sasuke? Yeah right. It sounds to me like you are a Naruto fanboy in disguise trying to act like you understand Sasuke's character when you really don't know anything.

I am liking this Doughnut person. :happy:
I am Dannie, Fuhrer of Uchiha, Mink, Solo Burger King, Alex, etc..
Spoken like a true hater
It seems I caught one of those "Naruto fanboys."
 

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And when was it considered a bad thing to change your goals? You act like Sasuke changing his goals is a bad thing, but that just shows that he is not a boring character.

You call Naruto more mature than Sasuke all because he keeps the same nindo? Yeah, what a load of crock that is. I find a character who spends most of his time whining about a boy that gives zero fcks about him to be the immature one.

You appreciate Sasuke? Yeah right. It sounds to me like you are a Naruto fanboy in disguise trying to act like you understand Sasuke's character when you really don't know anything.


I am Dannie, Fuhrer of Uchiha, Mink, Solo Burger King, Alex, etc..

It seems I caught one of those "Naruto fanboys."
Awesomeness. (y) That was a good disguise.
 

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And when was it considered a bad thing to change your goals? You act like Sasuke changing his goals is a bad thing, but that just shows that he is not a boring character.

You call Naruto more mature than Sasuke all because he keeps the same nindo? Yeah, what a load of crock that is. I find a character who spends most of his time whining about a boy that gives zero fcks about him to be the immature one.

You appreciate Sasuke? Yeah right. It sounds to me like you are a Naruto fanboy in disguise trying to act like you understand Sasuke's character when you really don't know anything.
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorofladzoz :leaf:
He's not a boring character, that just shows that he is easily suggestible.

And who finished Hokage and acknolowdged by everyone ? naruto lol

I don't have any favs, read my status and of course I appreciate Sasuke, I had a Sasuke avatar and sig for a long time (and I think about doing it again). I'm just saying the truth with an objective point of view and you're just denying it :)
 

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lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorofladzoz :leaf:
He's not a boring character, that just shows that he is easily suggestible.

And who finished Hokage and acknolowdged by everyone ? naruto lol

I don't have any favs, read my status and of course I appreciate Sasuke, I had a Sasuke avatar and sig for a long time (and I think about doing it again). I'm just saying the truth with an objective point of view and you're just denying it :)
The name of the manga is called Naruto. Wtf do you expect everyone to do? Acknowledge Sasuke instead? It doesn't matter if Sasuke wasn't acknowledged as that has nothing to do with his character development. Just because a bunch of Naruto d riders acknowledged him doesn't mean that his character development is better than Sasuke's, and anyone with clear eyes can see that.

No one acknowledged Vegeta in the end of DBZ and yet his character development shits on Goku's.
 

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One of the reasons people like x character is because they beat others. Lol
Although the fans seem to inherited the curse of hatred. To be honest the VoTE 2 fight was not what I wanted (I may be alone), since I wanted both people wanting to defeat the other however Naruto just went on the defensive and only wanted to save sasuke....
 

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Naruto is main character, but I must admit I was more than once annoyed with his forced optimism.

His nindo of never giving up is pretty much just a personality that most of main shonen characters have.

He had some moments, but Sasuke was far better developed, and connected to the story.
 

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For one thing. Don't call someone who tried to kill you 'your best friend.'
Don't hyperventilate for someone who tried to kill you.
Don't go 4 tails for someone that doesn't care about you all because someone talked shit about him.
Don't continue to waste the majority of the series screaming Sasuke's name like an annoying pretard and getting butthurt that he's not next to me.

Naruto is also the boring MC with no dynamics or character shifts. His goal and plot has been the same for the entire 700 chapters.

I don't think I need to write 12 pages about Sasuke's character when anyone with a lick of sense can see Sasuke as the better developed character.
The dude did when Obito talked to him.

I'm busy but i'll give you a rundown later.
 
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