What did Itachi do for Akatsuki?

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Well, I guess that he didn't give them any intel then. Now that I think about it, in the manga towards the end of pt1 it stated that they hadn't reassembled since the day that Oro left, which was the day that Itachi joined. They actually reassembled after Hiruzen died, so that would mean that Itachi was either in solitude entirely or just with Kisame. That would mean he would have limited attempts at gathering intel. It also doesn't help that the only person he could give intel to and make sure it benefitted was Hiruzen...but Hiruzen was dead at that point.

I know this is speculation, but maybe somehow Itachi passed on intel to Jiraiya? Kakashi stated what he knew about Akatsuki, then Jiraiya mentioned something similar about it. Then, Itachi immediately stated "Oh, so you're the one who informed Kakashi-san", but he said that when he didn't even know whether or not Kakashi and Jiraiya even spoke to each other. :/

All 9 together? Maybe since garra was the first beast they sealed. But have they been in groups prior? Yes. Kisame, sasori, and itachi went to recruit deidara. Meaning kisame and itachi were already teamed since then.(info he could have have the leaf) and he gained intel on deidara's tech's (deidara stupidly explained how it works to iyachi(and itachi sill didn't tell the leaf about it))


I'm gonna need a point of reference in regards to that conversation.
 
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OT: Nothing that wouldn't have been expected of a spy, especially of a shinobi spy of the Narutoverse.
 

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He completed missions for the akatsuki, given to them by other villages


 

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All 9 together? Maybe since garra was the first beast they sealed. But have they been in groups prior? Yes. Kisame, sasori, and itachi went to recruit deidara. Meaning kisame and itachi were already teamed since then.(info he could have have the leaf) and he gained intel on deidara's tech's (deidara stupidly explained how it works to iyachi(and itachi sill didn't tell the leaf about it))


I'm gonna need a point of reference in regards to that conversation.


All 9 had not been together since Oro left and they didn't reassemble until towards the end of pt1.
I'd assume that Itachi and Kisame traveled alone during that time, so he would have only had intel on Kisame when Hiruzen was alive. I don't know how much that would have really helped though.
 

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More fanfic in order to put down a character you hate, huh? Itachi was stated to be the one to capture Naruto. That was his only mission, and he purposely didn't complete it.
his only mission for 7 years? you dont believe that
tachi was just there to make sure that Danzo heard of his presence and didn't hurt Sasuke.
lol
"no one is allowed to hurt my brother...unless its me doing it!"

Yes, Itachi did do that to Sasuke which in turn led him to grow even stronger and protected Konoha from Sasuke's hatred which was directed towards Itachi.
yes itachi did that to sasyke which left sauske ina possibly permanent COMA. which took the greatest medic in the world to heal him from.
it didnt protect anything. sauske could have betrayed and attacked konoha for any reason, not just for them killing his clan. for example if konoha impeded his efforts to kill itachi, thatd be a reason to declare war.
the mental state itachi left him in didnt leave much room for reasoning and logic either. sasuke was completely psychologically shattered. who was it who gave him hate? oh right itachi.
. The only reason Jiraiya didn't die back then is because Itachi wasn't for the Akatsuki and actually supported Konoha. Itachi is the reason that Konoha and Naruto were safe for 7 years.
itachi supported akatsuki and had already betrayed konoha and left it to rot defenceless.
he threatened and extorted his superiors, did nothing to even slow akatsuki down which resulted in them blowing half the world away,helped them murder the jinchurikis and seal the bijuus, betrayed and tortured kakashi and sasuke for no reason which is itachi declaring war on the entireity of konoha and the fire nation, declared war on the sand village when he impeded konohas efforts to save gaara, declared war on the world's peace when he helped obito seal the bijuus knowing what akatsuki planned to do with them etc

itachi is the reason they are fighting the worst war in history. hes the reason sasuke was broken and insane for 3 years. hes the reason so many people are dead right now.

Hiruzen and the manga disagree with you on that. Because of Itachi, Obito didn't take over the world sooner.
the manga disagrees with you. because of itachi, obito was unstoppable and had 7 nukes in his possession.he didnt give a shit about konoha. he wanted the nukes. attacking konoah was only to get kyuubi, and he was fine with ordering pain to get that. pain could invade earlier and itachi would be powerless to stop it. or they could get naruto when hes on a mission which nearly happened when kakuzu and hidan attacked him

. Itachi couldn't just kill Kisame and save Son Goku because Zetsu would alert the other Akatsuki and Itachi would be killed by them
how would zetsu know? if itachi played it right, he could ask zetsu to do something else while he kills kisame and seals son goku in totsuka. a good intelligent ninja would find a way to stop his enemies through sheer intelligence and planning. shikamaru would have dismantled akatsuki in a year. itachi did nothing. he let them start a world war and murder millions
He did a good thing by not blowing his cover and being a double spy, it was his best bet and it worked.
he did a pure evil and selfish thing by wasting his time doing NOTHING except help the enemy and help them start the worst war in history. it was his best bet to destroy the world and it worked. madaras unbeatable and i bet itachi is feelig good that he singlehandeldy doomed earth to ensalvement and death and destruvtion becaus ehe didnt have the ball testicles to use KA on obito when he had the chance. oh right itahci is too selfish to actually USE his power.
he did the worst thing possble by wasting his time doing nothing and not spying on anthing or anyone.
He obviously shared some info w/ him prior to the hokage dying.
no he didnt given hiruzen did nothing. if itachi said "hey guys madaras still alive" and hiruzen didnt beleive him then he must not be a very good or smart spy after all.
. By the way, Itachi joined Akatsuki when he was 14 and died at the age of 21. That's 7 years lol.
7 years of sitting on his ass doing nothing and telling no one anything useful
Obito flat out stated that Itachi is the only reason that he couldn't continue his plans for 7 years.
obito flat out stated he was only moving his speed up because of nagatos death. to which zetsu was liek "um you sure?" so itachi or not, obito was cautious and only cared about getting the jins. itachi stopped nothing even though he had the tools to do so.
also i find it funny that itachi made him not touch konoha.as if to say everywhere else is completely expendable to him
He actually didn't, he made Kisame capture Roshi by himself. He didn't do crap for Akatsuki.
false. he did everthing he could ot make akatsuki unstoppable.
he attacked konoha citizens, stopped konoah from saving gaara, warned akatsuki when strong people showed up, helped them seal the bijuus up ten times faster, did nothing to stop his partners or kill obito, had absolutely no plan to stop nagato

As for the village, he did more than he needed to. He saved them from war when he was alive
no he didnt, he condemned them to the worst war in history by helping akatsuki and roochimaru become stronger. he let orochimaru go for no reason which resulted in orochimaru killing half the village.
stopped them from capturing Naruto
he stopped konoah from saving naruto, and the world by impeding them whenever he could and turning sasuke into an insane monster. he almost got naruto killed whne he ordered sasuke to kill all his friends.
he stopped konoha from beuing able ot stop the war before it began and fight akatsuki effectively which got millions killed.
nd was a double spy in Akatsuki to give intel to Hiruze
no he wasnt. he didnt tell anyone anything,which resulted in thousands dying and a devastating invasion by pain
n. Then he came back as an edo and saved the world from Kabuto and his Edo Tensei army
no he didnt. he condemned the entire world to death destruction and being burnt to the ground when he went after kabuto for absolutely no reason. this decsion let madara off the leash as he ws able to break the ending ET, and let obito start the juubi resurrection without a hitch. a smart fighter would go after the greatest threat first and stop the world from ending. kabutos dangerous but not apocalyptic!

the army was already gone and defeated by the alliance. all itachi did was stop kimimaro and chiyo which resutled in the destruction of thousands of alliance soldiers at obito and madaras hands and possible end of the world.
 

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his only mission for 7 years? you dont believe that

lol
"no one is allowed to hurt my brother...unless its me doing it!"


yes itachi did that to sasyke which left sauske ina possibly permanent COMA. which took the greatest medic in the world to heal him from.
it didnt protect anything. sauske could have betrayed and attacked konoha for any reason, not just for them killing his clan. for example if konoha impeded his efforts to kill itachi, thatd be a reason to declare war.
the mental state itachi left him in didnt leave much room for reasoning and logic either. sasuke was completely psychologically shattered. who was it who gave him hate? oh right itachi.

itachi supported akatsuki and had already betrayed konoha and left it to rot defenceless.
he threatened and extorted his superiors, did nothing to even slow akatsuki down which resulted in them blowing half the world away,helped them murder the jinchurikis and seal the bijuus, betrayed and tortured kakashi and sasuke for no reason which is itachi declaring war on the entireity of konoha and the fire nation, declared war on the sand village when he impeded konohas efforts to save gaara, declared war on the world's peace when he helped obito seal the bijuus knowing what akatsuki planned to do with them etc

itachi is the reason they are fighting the worst war in history. hes the reason sasuke was broken and insane for 3 years. hes the reason so many people are dead right now.


the manga disagrees with you. because of itachi, obito was unstoppable and had 7 nukes in his possession.he didnt give a shit about konoha. he wanted the nukes. attacking konoah was only to get kyuubi, and he was fine with ordering pain to get that. pain could invade earlier and itachi would be powerless to stop it. or they could get naruto when hes on a mission which nearly happened when kakuzu and hidan attacked him


how would zetsu know? if itachi played it right, he could ask zetsu to do something else while he kills kisame and seals son goku in totsuka. a good intelligent ninja would find a way to stop his enemies through sheer intelligence and planning. shikamaru would have dismantled akatsuki in a year. itachi did nothing. he let them start a world war and murder millions

he did a pure evil and selfish thing by wasting his time doing NOTHING except help the enemy and help them start the worst war in history. it was his best bet to destroy the world and it worked. madaras unbeatable and i bet itachi is feelig good that he singlehandeldy doomed earth to ensalvement and death and destruvtion becaus ehe didnt have the ball testicles to use KA on obito when he had the chance. oh right itahci is too selfish to actually USE his power.
he did the worst thing possble by wasting his time doing nothing and not spying on anthing or anyone.

no he didnt given hiruzen did nothing. if itachi said "hey guys madaras still alive" and hiruzen didnt beleive him then he must not be a very good or smart spy after all.

7 years of sitting on his ass doing nothing and telling no one anything useful

obito flat out stated he was only moving his speed up because of nagatos death. to which zetsu was liek "um you sure?" so itachi or not, obito was cautious and only cared about getting the jins. itachi stopped nothing even though he had the tools to do so.
also i find it funny that itachi made him not touch konoha.as if to say everywhere else is completely expendable to him

false. he did everthing he could ot make akatsuki unstoppable.
he attacked konoha citizens, stopped konoah from saving gaara, warned akatsuki when strong people showed up, helped them seal the bijuus up ten times faster, did nothing to stop his partners or kill obito, had absolutely no plan to stop nagato


no he didnt, he condemned them to the worst war in history by helping akatsuki and roochimaru become stronger. he let orochimaru go for no reason which resulted in orochimaru killing half the village.

he stopped konoah from saving naruto, and the world by impeding them whenever he could and turning sasuke into an insane monster. he almost got naruto killed whne he ordered sasuke to kill all his friends.
he stopped konoha from beuing able ot stop the war before it began and fight akatsuki effectively which got millions killed.

no he wasnt. he didnt tell anyone anything,which resulted in thousands dying and a devastating invasion by pain

no he didnt. he condemned the entire world to death destruction and being burnt to the ground when he went after kabuto for absolutely no reason. this decsion let madara off the leash as he ws able to break the ending ET, and let obito start the juubi resurrection without a hitch. a smart fighter would go after the greatest threat first and stop the world from ending. kabutos dangerous but not apocalyptic!

the army was already gone and defeated by the alliance. all itachi did was stop kimimaro and chiyo which resutled in the destruction of thousands of alliance soldiers at obito and madaras hands and possible end of the world.

Well, capturing Naruto was his main mission but probably not the only one. They still needed cash, but then again Kakazu liked to take on such missions. We'll never know exactly what missions Itachi went on. He was a double spy and did his job anyway.

The coma wasn't permanent. 8 year old Sasuke woke up in a few weeks after the Uchiha massacre, meaning that whether Tsunade showed up or not, he would still wake up. Itachi wanted Sasuke to hate him so Konoha would be spared of that hatred. It worked for a good while.

He wasn't for Akatsuki and was actually for Konoha. Whether you like this or not, it is a fact because Kishimoto wrote this in the manga. He didn't declare war on anything and he only hurt Sasuke/Kakashi after he told them to stay away from him but they faced him anyway. He's a double spy for Akatsuki, he's not going to give them a hug and blow their cover.

Itachi is the reason that Sasuke did not gain hatred for Konoha much earlier on. Itachi is the reason Obito didn't destroy Konoha earlier on. After he died, well I don't hold characters accountable for every little thing that goes wrong after they die. It's not as if they can do anything to stop it while they're dead.

Zetsu would know because he's everywhere and he is stated to be the only thing that is completely undetectable, to the point no sensor can realize he's there. He even knew that Deidara blew himself up in his fight with Sasuke when he was nowhere near the vicinity. He would know if Itachi killed Kisame and would alert the others. They would have reason to suspect Itachi and all the members would gang up on him in order to kill him. The reason they didn't do that for Kakazu is because he was a 100+ yr old man who was in it for the money and had no reason to betray Akatsuki. Itachi is someone they would be suspicious about, he was from Konoha which was the village that ruined Nagato's life and a part of Anbu in the past. Itachi was a 13 year old who randomly ruined his life and became a missing-nin, if he attempted to kill off members, they would put 2 and 2 together. The Akatsuki are not that stupid. And as for Shikamaru being able to find a way to stop Zetsu within a year...well Itachi's not Shikamaru. Itachi is far from perfect lol.

On the part about Madara, he didn't even know who the real Madara was when he was an edo. He thought Madara was Tobi and as we know, DSM Kabuto is stronger than MS Obito. So in Itachi's mind, he was going after the bigger threat. I don't really think it's right to blame a character for not stopping another character that they had no idea even existed.

Apparently he was a good spy for those 7 years, considering that Hiruzen praised him. The guy did his job.

Obito also stated that he couldn't resume his plans until after Itachi died.

Yes, but that was because he was a double spy. He warned Kakashi Asuma and Kurenai to stay away, did not harm Naruto or his crew, had the amaterasu activation in place for Obito, etc. Also, the Akatsuki usually traveled in pairs and were rarely together. They met through holographic images and sealed the tailed beasts, that was usually the only point they were together. Itachi as an edo didn't even know about edo Nagato's abilities. Once again, Itachi isn't perfect nor is he omniscient. He's just a shinobi that did his job.

He used reverse psychology on Sasuke which in turn made him decide not to kill Naruto at the VoTE.

Itachi has the tools to take on everyone in Akatsuki at once? Lol, I seriously doubt that. He was even sick with a terminal illness, that isn't happening.

You're blaming Itachi for not killing Oro, and yet Itachi was a 14 year old who knew nothing about Oro's abilities/background during their first encounter. He cannot see into the future and know that Oro is going to place a cm on his little brother, or destroy half of Konoha, etc. That's not a very good point to argue.

You're saying that the Akatsuki killed thousands and millions, but the manga states no such numbers.

Of course Itachi went after Kabuto, because at that point Itachi only knew of MS Obito being the other threat. He wasn't exactly caught up on current events. The guy had been dead for a while. -_-

To be completely honest, I respect your opinion. But no matter what, I am going to continue viewing Itachi as a well-written character by Kishimoto and an anti-hero. I suppose our opinions will just continue to differ and we can agree to disagree. U_U
 

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He captured Yonbee, he also soloed many threats for the Akatsuki and the members of the organizations were also in their limits because of their fear of Itachi.
 

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Lets play a game of spot the itachi haters.
I've already spotted 2. I'm just really curious to know why chie is even responding to ussj.
 

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He was a double spy and did his job anyway.
does whatever he did as a spy justify what he did as an akatsuki? no. he did entirely too little thats for konohas benefit

The coma wasn't permanent. 8 year old Sasuke woke up in a few weeks after the Uchiha massacre,
yes it was. it took the greatest medic in the world and her protege returning to konoha to heal him and kakashi. moreover itachi has no idea if it will be or not or if tsunade would ever come back.

Of course Itachi went after Kabuto, because at that point Itachi only knew of MS Obito being the other threat. He wasn't exactly caught up on current events. The guy had been dead for a while. -_-
it would do him well then to pump naruto and bee for informaiton as much as possible rather than going galivanting off half cocked. he thought he'd face base kabuto and thought that a mere genjutsu would be enough.
itachi should AT LEAST know the war's purpose. and not knowing it means hes not so good at obtaining information then is he?

You're saying that the Akatsuki killed thousands and millions, but the manga states no such numbers.
1. the people who died from juubis long range bombs
2. the alliance
should total over a million casualties
Itachi has the tools to take on everyone in Akatsuki at once?
what do you mean at once? they were never all in one place at any one time. kakuzu and hidan would have killed their way through konoha if pain allowed them to. or hell simply if kakuzu got killed and left hidan all alone. few jounins could fight hidan effectively.

Yes, but that was because he was a double spy.
he was a terrorist who ensured an entire city knew nothing about its greatest enemy and ensured obito had the nukes he wanted.
a double spy wouldnt let the worst and most powerful men in the world have 7 nukes. and if he does he would LET EVERY SINGLE NINJA ON EARTH KNOW ABOUT IT AND ORDER A STRIKE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

Apparently he was a good spy for those 7 years, considering that Hiruzen praised him. The guy did his job.
so then how come all konohas high ranking ninjas like kakashi knew about akatsuki was they were hunting bijuus? and NOTHING else? isnt it his responsibility as an apparent good guy to earn the trust of akatsukis highest ranks and find out every single thing he can?
instead he was just another goon to nagato and konan.
He didn't declare war on anything and he only hurt Sasuke/Kakashi after he told them to stay away from him but they faced him anyway.
he attacked a group of konoha soldiers in cold blood which is a declaration of war on the entire fire country and an act of war in of itself. then he beat a genin into a coma while intending on kidnapping and murdering konoha's jinchuriki. i dont have to tell you this. the manga SHOWED us this. your telling me that hes loyal to konoha when he just launched a violent terrorist assault on the city with intent to grieviously harm one of its men and kidnap another? which would essentially have every single ninja there gunning for him if they werent already? only reason they werent is they didnt have the manpower to be fighting akatsuki just yet. all the more reason to warn them, not knock its men out of comission

He used reverse psychology on Sasuke which in turn made him decide not to kill Naruto at the VoTE.
he used brutal sociopathic disregard for human life at its worst. he advised an emotional grieving vengeful child that the path to getting justice involves severing off the heads of people he cares about. and your telling me he somehow knew sasuke would refuse to go through it it INCHES away from doing it?
also it failed. sasuke almost killed naruto and the ONLY reason naruto is not paste on the fukin rocks is kyuubis regneration. thats it. thats the sole reason. had sauske picked sakura or damn near anyone else as his closest companion they WOULD be dead.
and had orochimaru not arrived when he did, sasuke would ahve murdered naruto, sakura, sai and yamato.
Itachi wanted Sasuke to hate him so Konoha would be spared of that hatred. It worked for a good while.
but it wont be.
you think that konoha killing his family would be the only possible reaosn sauske would ever have to want konoha taken down?
torture someone into insanity long enough and hard enough and they will find a reason that wouldnt make sense to anyone else. like orochimaru and his " peace is boring" crap.
hate doesnt stop with one person. it seeps in, corrupts, turns you into someone you never thought you could be. ESPECIALLY if your an unstable motherfukin uchiha. is itachi so stupid that he didnt think a member of the same clan that had such a long and bloody history wouldnt embrace said destiny if he tortured him?
He warned Kakashi Asuma and Kurenai to stay away, did not harm Naruto or his crew, had the amaterasu activation in place for Obit
he warned kakashi what any villain would warn him of. "if you get in my way ill kill you". which confirmed to thjem his enemy status.
did not harm naruto? if jiraiya hadnt shown up when he did, naruto would be dead.
amaterasu didnt do dik nor would it. what happened to KA and izanami

On the part about Madara, he didn't even know who the real Madara was when he was an edo. He thought Madara was Tobi and as we know, DSM Kabuto is stronger than MS Obito. So in Itachi's mind, he was going after the bigger threat
lets look at the facts. itachi knew obito was collecting bijuus. 7 of them.
he didnt know kabuto has SM or edo madara or really any edos besides the edo he just took down with totsuka.
so base kabuto with unknown or no edos vs MS obito with 7 bijuus. yeah itachis a moron.

Obito also stated that he couldn't resume his plans until after Itachi died.
yeah but his plans were advancing, itachi or not. he had 7 bijuus when itachi died, and after that all he concerned himself with was continuing to be behind the scenes apart from corrupting sasuke and sending him after bee.
it was NAGATOs death that forced obitos hand and rushed his plans
Itachi is the reason that Sasuke did not gain hatred for Konoha much earlier on.
itachi is the reason sauske has hatred period. there were ways he could have handled the post massacre scene in a way that kept sasuke as a grieving but ultimately good hearted boy. sure he might lose the will to live later on but i bet he would have far fukin less reason to live once he finds out what kind of person his beloved brother apparently is.
He's a double spy for Akatsuki, he's not going to give them a hug and blow their cover.
what cover? he spent 7 years in akatsuki doing nothing except making akatsuki stronger and warning them about how strong konoha is. the moment thye got their first bijuu, itachi should have been like "ok. im gonna tell every ninja i meet that a group of psychopaths have a nuke. bad news guys. its war time". no point staying there any longer. it was war time. let them get any stronger and what happens? oh right exactly what DID happen. thousands dying.

You're blaming Itachi for not killing Oro, and yet Itachi was a 14 year old who knew nothing about Oro's abilities/background during their first encounter.
yes i am. the manga is trying to tell me that itachi as a 7 year old was some mega wise shinobi scholar researching everything he could and wasnt attached to things like clan loyalty.
but then it tries to tell me hes a sociopathic lazy idiot who lets the worst criminal in the world go for no reason, knowing full well hes on the bingo book and is a legendary fighter
Zetsu would know because he's everywhere and he is stated to be the only thing that is completely undetectable, to the point no sensor can realize he's there. He even knew that Deidara blew himself up in his fight with Sasuke when he was nowhere near the vicinity. He would know if Itachi killed Kisame and would alert the others.
the problem with this is kakuzu. the whole inner circle knows kakuzu slaughtered his partners and they kept right on keeping kakuzu around. kakuzu did more to stop akatsukis plans than the person apparently actually wanting them taken down. moreover itachi should know full well madara knows his true loyalties. itachi TOLD HIM THIS TO HIS FACE when he amde him leave konoha and sasuke alone.and obito would have told zetsu and nagato so theres really no cover at all to blow. the jig was up before it began
Itachi is the reason Obito didn't destroy Konoha earlier on.
hes the reason he was in a position to destroy everywhere else. no one cares if one city is safe when the entire world is suffering by losing the bijus
And as for Shikamaru being able to find a way to stop Zetsu within a year...well Itachi's not Shikamaru.
i know that. im explaining that itachi was far from even competant let alone smart

The reason they didn't do that for Kakazu is because he was a 100+ yr old man who was in it for the money and had no reason to betray Akatsuki. Itachi is someone they would be suspicious about, he was from Konoha which was the village that ruined Nagato's life and a part of Anbu in the past.
they knew all that already (meaning obito and zetsu). since itachi told obito to his face hes for konoha and nothing else. not killing him then means either obito doesnt want to or cant. and if he CANT then that means itachi > him and theres no reason not to kill him then and there.
 

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does whatever he did as a spy justify what he did as an akatsuki? no. he did entirely too little thats for konohas benefit


yes it was. it took the greatest medic in the world and her protege returning to konoha to heal him and kakashi. moreover itachi has no idea if it will be or not or if tsunade would ever come back.


it would do him well then to pump naruto and bee for informaiton as much as possible rather than going galivanting off half cocked. he thought he'd face base kabuto and thought that a mere genjutsu would be enough.
itachi should AT LEAST know the war's purpose. and not knowing it means hes not so good at obtaining information then is he?


1. the people who died from juubis long range bombs
2. the alliance
should total over a million casualties

what do you mean at once? they were never all in one place at any one time. kakuzu and hidan would have killed their way through konoha if pain allowed them to. or hell simply if kakuzu got killed and left hidan all alone. few jounins could fight hidan effectively.


he was a terrorist who ensured an entire city knew nothing about its greatest enemy and ensured obito had the nukes he wanted.
a double spy wouldnt let the worst and most powerful men in the world have 7 nukes. and if he does he would LET EVERY SINGLE NINJA ON EARTH KNOW ABOUT IT AND ORDER A STRIKE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.


so then how come all konohas high ranking ninjas like kakashi knew about akatsuki was they were hunting bijuus? and NOTHING else? isnt it his responsibility as an apparent good guy to earn the trust of akatsukis highest ranks and find out every single thing he can?
instead he was just another goon to nagato and konan.

he attacked a group of konoha soldiers in cold blood which is a declaration of war on the entire fire country and an act of war in of itself. then he beat a genin into a coma while intending on kidnapping and murdering konoha's jinchuriki. i dont have to tell you this. the manga SHOWED us this. your telling me that hes loyal to konoha when he just launched a violent terrorist assault on the city with intent to grieviously harm one of its men and kidnap another? which would essentially have every single ninja there gunning for him if they werent already? only reason they werent is they didnt have the manpower to be fighting akatsuki just yet. all the more reason to warn them, not knock its men out of comission


he used brutal sociopathic disregard for human life at its worst. he advised an emotional grieving vengeful child that the path to getting justice involves severing off the heads of people he cares about. and your telling me he somehow knew sasuke would refuse to go through it it INCHES away from doing it?
also it failed. sasuke almost killed naruto and the ONLY reason naruto is not paste on the fukin rocks is kyuubis regneration. thats it. thats the sole reason. had sauske picked sakura or damn near anyone else as his closest companion they WOULD be dead.
and had orochimaru not arrived when he did, sasuke would ahve murdered naruto, sakura, sai and yamato.

but it wont be.
you think that konoha killing his family would be the only possible reaosn sauske would ever have to want konoha taken down?
torture someone into insanity long enough and hard enough and they will find a reason that wouldnt make sense to anyone else. like orochimaru and his " peace is boring" crap.
hate doesnt stop with one person. it seeps in, corrupts, turns you into someone you never thought you could be. ESPECIALLY if your an unstable motherfukin uchiha. is itachi so stupid that he didnt think a member of the same clan that had such a long and bloody history wouldnt embrace said destiny if he tortured him?

he warned kakashi what any villain would warn him of. "if you get in my way ill kill you". which confirmed to thjem his enemy status.
did not harm naruto? if jiraiya hadnt shown up when he did, naruto would be dead.
amaterasu didnt do dik nor would it. what happened to KA and izanami


lets look at the facts. itachi knew obito was collecting bijuus. 7 of them.
he didnt know kabuto has SM or edo madara or really any edos besides the edo he just took down with totsuka.
so base kabuto with unknown or no edos vs MS obito with 7 bijuus. yeah itachis a moron.


yeah but his plans were advancing, itachi or not. he had 7 bijuus when itachi died, and after that all he concerned himself with was continuing to be behind the scenes apart from corrupting sasuke and sending him after bee.
it was NAGATOs death that forced obitos hand and rushed his plans

itachi is the reason sauske has hatred period. there were ways he could have handled the post massacre scene in a way that kept sasuke as a grieving but ultimately good hearted boy. sure he might lose the will to live later on but i bet he would have far fukin less reason to live once he finds out what kind of person his beloved brother apparently is.

what cover? he spent 7 years in akatsuki doing nothing except making akatsuki stronger and warning them about how strong konoha is. the moment thye got their first bijuu, itachi should have been like "ok. im gonna tell every ninja i meet that a group of psychopaths have a nuke. bad news guys. its war time". no point staying there any longer. it was war time. let them get any stronger and what happens? oh right exactly what DID happen. thousands dying.


yes i am. the manga is trying to tell me that itachi as a 7 year old was some mega wise shinobi scholar researching everything he could and wasnt attached to things like clan loyalty.
but then it tries to tell me hes a sociopathic lazy idiot who lets the worst criminal in the world go for no reason, knowing full well hes on the bingo book and is a legendary fighter

the problem with this is kakuzu. the whole inner circle knows kakuzu slaughtered his partners and they kept right on keeping kakuzu around. kakuzu did more to stop akatsukis plans than the person apparently actually wanting them taken down. moreover itachi should know full well madara knows his true loyalties. itachi TOLD HIM THIS TO HIS FACE when he amde him leave konoha and sasuke alone.and obito would have told zetsu and nagato so theres really no cover at all to blow. the jig was up before it began

hes the reason he was in a position to destroy everywhere else. no one cares if one city is safe when the entire world is suffering by losing the bijus

i know that. im explaining that itachi was far from even competant let alone smart


they knew all that already (meaning obito and zetsu). since itachi told obito to his face hes for konoha and nothing else. not killing him then means either obito doesnt want to or cant. and if he CANT then that means itachi > him and theres no reason not to kill him then and there.

Yeah, it kind of does considering that it benefitted Konoha.

Sasuke at a younger age woke up from Tsukiyomi, that means he would wake up again, especially being older and stronger. Tsunade only made him wake up earlier, but either way Sasuke was waking up.

That wouldn't have helped at all, considering that Bee and Naruto knew nothing about Kabuto at the time.

In one squadron, there are 500 people. That means there are several thousand shinobi out there. Not millions lol.

Zetsu would alert the others, they'd gang up on Itachi, he'd die. Not worth it and he was better off being a double spy.

He's not a terrorist nor did he attack anyone in cold blood. In fact every battle he's been in, his opponent has made the first move.

Itachi never told Obito the truth at all. He just made that deal with him and Obito found out on his own.

Itachi's smart and a hero. Mangafact. Just deal with it. U_U
 

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Lets play a game of spot the itachi haters.
I've already spotted 2. I'm just really curious to know why chie is even responding to ussj.

Eh. Pretty much responding just because I can. U_U
 

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Wow props to chie. I can't even read a sentence of ussj post or deadpool's post before I start shaking my head.
To passionately hate on a fictional character... Just lol
 

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Wow props to chie. I can't even read a sentence of ussj post or deadpool's post before I start shaking my head.
To passionately hate on a fictional character... Just lol

1. I don't hate Itachi. What's true is true, and a lot of what's said about Itachi isn't true.

2. You're clearly bias.
 

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Did whatever they asked trying his hardest to cause minimum damage.
 

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Yeah, it kind of does considering that it benefitted Konoha.
nothing itachi ever did benefitted anyone but himself


Did whatever they asked trying his hardest to cause minimum damage.
he did the worst damage possible and gave genocidal madmen nukes to use on millions. by being there at all he did damage

Itachi never told Obito the truth at all. He just made that deal with him and Obito found out on his own.
"dont hurt my bro or my city..because that will definitely convince you im just a selfish murderous douche! and becuase only im allowed to hurt said bro"

Sasuke at a younger age woke up from Tsukiyomi, that means he would wake up again, especially being older and stronger.
the second time was worse. he was beaten half to death first THEN mindraped
He's not a terrorist nor did he attack anyone in cold blood. In fact every battle he's been in, his opponent has made the first move.
funny. sakura has gotten by just fine as a hero despite being usually the one attacking first. shes simply smart enough to do so. itachi sat back and let terrorists ravage the world for no real reason, lied to and extorted his superiors, aided terrorists in the murder of 6 people unrepentently, attacked and tortured kakashi for no reason whatsoever other than to cause him pain, terrorised corrupted tortured and beat sauske to near death, lied to and manipulated konohas citizens into believing his lies about sasuke and the clan, tortured naruto, ordered sasuke to murder innocent people.
yeah hes a terrorist.
Zetsu would alert the others, they'd gang up on Itachi, he'd die. Not worth it and he was better off being a double spy.
you know whats not worth it? sitting in akatsuki and obeying their every order while doing nothing to stop them or spy on them. konoha was clueless. itachi told them seven licks of shit about anything. why do you think tsunade sent jiraiya? she was doing the best she could with what she had, and had no other allies capable of infiltration.
the point of being an undercover agent is balancing the crimes you do to stay in the criminal gang, with useful informaiton that leads to their downfall. what exactly did itachi do to further akatsukis fall?
 

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nothing itachi ever did benefitted anyone but himself



he did the worst damage possible and gave genocidal madmen nukes to use on millions. by being there at all he did damage


"dont hurt my bro or my city..because that will definitely convince you im just a selfish murderous douche! and becuase only im allowed to hurt said bro"


the second time was worse. he was beaten half to death first THEN mindraped

funny. sakura has gotten by just fine as a hero despite being usually the one attacking first. shes simply smart enough to do so. itachi sat back and let terrorists ravage the world for no real reason, lied to and extorted his superiors, aided terrorists in the murder of 6 people unrepentently, attacked and tortured kakashi for no reason whatsoever other than to cause him pain, terrorised corrupted tortured and beat sauske to near death, lied to and manipulated konohas citizens into believing his lies about sasuke and the clan, tortured naruto, ordered sasuke to murder innocent people.
yeah hes a terrorist.

you know whats not worth it? sitting in akatsuki and obeying their every order while doing nothing to stop them or spy on them. konoha was clueless. itachi told them seven licks of shit about anything. why do you think tsunade sent jiraiya? she was doing the best she could with what she had, and had no other allies capable of infiltration.
the point of being an undercover agent is balancing the crimes you do to stay in the criminal gang, with useful informaiton that leads to their downfall. what exactly did itachi do to further akatsukis fall?

Pretty sure it benefitted Konoha and kept Sasuke alive. He didn't have fun living in solitude for 7 years and being known as a national criminal who was waiting for his brother to kill him. Everything Itachi did was not to benefit himself, but others.

Not really. Also, there has never been a stated population of millions in the manga that were affected by Akatsuki. fanfic

Obito didn't know everything. Others would have still thought that Itachi was evil if asked to make that deal w/ him, they would have just found it odd but left it at that.

He got 3 bruised ribs and a broken wrist, then Tsukiyomi for 24 hours. The first time it was 48 hours. Not as bad as it could have been and Sasuke is the one who initiated the fight and then when Itachi attempted to stop it and said he had no interest, Sasuke insisted knowing he was no match. Sasuke's stupidity brought that upon himself.

He was a double spy and managed to stop some of Akatsuki's plans. Kakashi attacked first, Itachi warned him. Kakashi's fault there, Itachi is a double spy who needs to keep his cover, he certainly isn't going to give him a hug.
Also, he never did any of this "terrorised corrupted tortured and beat sauske to near death, lied to and manipulated konohas citizens into believing his lies about sasuke and the clan, tortured naruto, ordered sasuke to murder innocent people.
yeah hes a terrorist. "

Hiruzen said that Itachi was a good spy and carried out his lifetime mission without complaints. Apparently he told them something. Also, after hiruzen died considering that no one in Konoha knew the truth bar the elders who were against Tsunade...there was no one he could give intel to. It's not as if Tsunade or anyone else who didn't know the truth would trust Itachi or anything he said.
 
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Lets play a game of spot the itachi haters.
I've already spotted 2. I'm just really curious to know why chie is even responding to ussj.

I wonder who you think those ppl are? ;)
 
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