What Defines Speed?

[BlacLord™]

Time is not used when teleporting. He covers a distance in no time at all.

You can see when he appears afterwards, but not when he teleports.

It's almost basic level physics.

Read my edited post.

 

[TrueByakugan]

Lee= Speed
Minato= Teleport

 

[fastrthnwind]

Read my edited post.

The yellow flash is from his yellow hair being seen across the battlefield as he teleports around. It's not matter moving at all.

 

[Naoya Minato]

But there is physical space between Minato and his destination, as proved by the yellow flash. The flash is the matter moving at high speeds. Teleportation in FTG sense is just figurative.

But here is my point, and I'm sorry if I'm missing yours. Minato never traveled that psysical distance between point A and B. He just appeared at point B instantly.

 

[Rafeal brown]

Speed is the distance covered with time.....
Minato's S/t jutsu is highly overrated.... His fans tend to beleive he can teleport anywhere he wants at will....
The fact that he needs to place seals in locations just before he could teleport to his destination makes it less effective.
In actual sense, Minato isn't even that "fast".....

 

[BlacLord™]

The yellow flash is from his yellow hair being seen across the battlefield as he teleports around. It's not matter moving at all.

We saw in Kakashi Gaiden that time was took from when he let the bag drop, if he had teleported, the bag would not have had time to move wahtsover, but it had.

 

[Exaar]

The manga answers this question.

Minato was deemed the fastest shinobi alive. So the manga/kishi seems to think FTG counts as speed.

 

[fastrthnwind]

We saw in Kakashi Gaiden that time was took from when he let the bag drop, if he had teleported, the bag would not have had time to move wahtsover, but it had.

It didn't move between the time he teleported. We cant know because the animaters didn't actually stop time to show that happening, therefore all we know was that at one instant he was letting go of the bag and the next he was right behind the other shinobi, the bag hitting the ground a few seconds later.

 

[Sot viing hun]

The manga answers this question.

Minato was deemed the fastest shinobi alive. So the manga/kishi seems to think FTG counts as speed.

This is quite the best post in this thread, this should end it.

 

[AGoodBoy]

And that speed is:

Distance/0 seconds..? It's impossible to divide by 0.

Teleportation is the transfer of matter from one point to another without traversing the physical space between them. So there is no distance traveled either. It's simply disappearing and reappearing somewhere else. You aren't traveling any distance.

it is not impossible. It is undefined.
0 is a placeholder basically. Our understanding of science hasn't caught up yet to understand this.
If you think we've already explained everything and we understand all... well I need not respond more.

You still have a displacement. Displacement is your relative change in position. v = d/t
Since You are no longer at your starting position and your displacement isn't 0, then you have moved. Displacement is variable and you can take that into account. The fact that the person cheats time by warping through another dimension and back changes nothing.

If you stand in the same spot for 5 minutes, your speed is 0. If you move from kyoto to new york in 0s your speed is just too great to currently comprehend.

 

[Exaar]

It didn't move between the time he teleported. We cant know because the animaters didn't actually stop time to show that happening, therefore all we know was that at one instant he was letting go of the bag and the next he was right behind the other shinobi, the bag hitting the ground a few seconds later.

Rin seemed to think it was body flicker and not FTG

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[fastrthnwind]

it is not impossible. It is undefined.
0 is a placeholder basically. Our understanding of science hasn't caught up yet to understand this.
If you think we've already explained everything and we understand all... well I need not respond more.

You still have a displacement. Displacement is your relative change in position. v = d/t
Since You are no longer at your starting position and your displacement isn't 0, then you have moved. Displacement is variable and you can take that into account. The fact that the person cheats time by warping through another dimension and back changes nothing.

If you stand in the same spot for 5 minutes, your speed is 0. If you move from kyoto to new york in 0s your speed is just too great to currently comprehend.

Which is why teleportation is not classified as speed.

He wasn't displaced, but he did travel a distance in no time. The whole equation would be undefined, not just the integral equation, but all the derivatives too.

 

[fastrthnwind]

Rin seemed to think it was body flicker and not FTG

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At that time she didn't know it was a teleportation technique, and even admits that his method of transportation is very fast.

 

[LegendaryAce]

Yes teleporting is beyond speed.

minato > speed

case closed.

 

[BlacLord™]

It didn't move between the time he teleported. We cant know because the animaters didn't actually stop time to show that happening, therefore all we know was that at one instant he was letting go of the bag and the next he was right behind the other shinobi, the bag hitting the ground a few seconds later.

But the animators did do a slow-motion scene, in which the bag hadn't yet hit the ground, but still had moved.

 

[KevinPJH]

Speed is the distance covered with time.....
Minato's S/t jutsu is highly overrated.... His fans tend to beleive he can teleport anywhere he wants at will....
The fact that he needs to place seals in locations just before he could teleport to his destination makes it less effective.
In actual sense, Minato isn't even that "fast".....

But, to be able to throw a kunai, teleport to a different kunai and then back to the one he threw in the same time it took A to move a few millimeters.. That is ****ing fast, especially since it was all just a reaction..

 

[fastrthnwind]

But the animators did do a slow-motion scene, in which the bag hadn't yet hit the ground, but still had moved.

Yes, and to us it seems that he had moved instantly from one place to another while the bag was still falling. We can't actually see someone teleporting because they move faster than the light that transfers to our eyes, making it physically impossible to track a teleporting person.

 

[Rafeal brown]

it is not impossible. It is undefined.
0 is a placeholder basically. Our understanding of science hasn't caught up yet to understand this.
If you think we've already explained everything and we understand all... well I need not respond more.

You still have a displacement. Displacement is your relative change in position. v = d/t
Since You are no longer at your starting position and your displacement isn't 0, then you have moved. Displacement is variable and you can take that into account. The fact that the person cheats time by warping through another dimension and back changes nothing.

If you stand in the same spot for 5 minutes, your speed is 0. If you move from kyoto to new york in 0s your speed is just too great to currently comprehend.

At bold part: I think that defys the definition of "speed".... if there's no or 0 time of travel then there's definitely no "speed" at all.... Cause speed is the distance covered per unit Time

 

[fastrthnwind]

At bold part: I think that defys the definition of "speed".... if there's no or 0 time of travel then there's definitely no "speed" at all.... Cause speed is the distance covered per unit Time

Exactly. Because teleportation does not follow this equation, it is not classified as speed.

 

[yep]

neither because it's How fast you can move
teleport is not speed it's OP but can't be considered as speed because even if you can win a competition (if it's allowed) the guy who can kill 435431523 people in 1 second.... well he is faster than you even if you can travel faster