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Narushima said:
No I said 'population' which, in context again, refers to the mean of a Gaussian distribution. Certainly there are intelligent Blacks - in fact, some groups do well here in Britain too. But they tend to be elite-selected (the cream of the cream of the crop):

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"Swanknasty cited page 18 of this paper to claim that in 1979, first generation African immigrants had a mean of 12.2 years of education. Swanknasty felt this showed that they are not that highly selected since they are only a little more educated than high school graduates on average, but the African born immigrants surveyed in 1979 were roughly 36 years old and would have likely attended university around 1963. Figure 1 in this document, shows that in 1970, less than 1% of college age sub-Saharan Africans were enrolled in tertiary education. Further, in 1950 South Africa, only 0.5% of Africans even qualified for university. So being a bit more educated than a high school graduate in 1963 likely put African immigrants to Britain in the top 0.5% to top 1% of sub-Saharan Africans of their cohort. Normalizing the distribution, the African immigrants to Britain are 2.43 standard deviations (+2.43 SD) more educated than the average black African.

Assuming a 0.65 correlation between IQ and education (Jensen, 1998), we would expect their IQs to be 0.65(+2.43 SD) = +1.58 SD higher than the average black African. Assuming the sub-Saharan distribution has a mean of 67 and an SD of 15, that puts them at 91 (24 points above the African mean). This is probably a conservative estimate; those who migrate to Britain are not only way more educated than the average African, but were resourceful enough to escape a poor country and adapt to an unimaginably prosperous one. In addition, many of them, despite being born in Africa, probably achieved their education in the developed world, suggesting they met even higher standards than university students educated in sub-Saharan Africa."

The distribution of Blacks in general, on the other hand, is another matter. If you have read the literature on this topic you would have been aware that social justice warriors have been calling IQ psychologists "racist" for decades for reporting the fact that an average IQ difference persists between Blacks and Whites.

No one, not even the environmentalist side of the debate like Stephen Jay Gould (whose work "The Mismeasure of Man" is a standard in those circles) defending the idea that the difference is purely environmental in origin, denies that this difference exists. The only thing that is debated is the origin of the difference in how much it is attributable to genes vs. environment.

In 2013 there was an anonymous survey done on this issue that asked 1237 IQ researchers the question "Asked: What are the sources of U.S. black-white differences in IQ?"

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Here were the results:

0% of differences due to genes: (17% of our experts)
0-40% of differences due to genes: 42% of our experts
50% of differences due to genes: 18% of our experts
60-100% of differences due to genes: 39% of our experts
100% of differences due to genes: (5% of our experts)
M=47% of differences due to genes (SD=31%)

And I'll tell you a secret, boy, this issue is being studied with genomics as we speak, and it isn't looking too good for you. Recently people have started looking at GWAS hits for 'educational attainment,' a proxy for intelligence, and comparing the frequency of those gene hits in different populations. This is only the beginning of the endeavor but here is the predictable picture that is emerging:

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"The genetic variants identified by two large GWAS of educational attainment were used to test a polygenic selection model.

Average frequencies of alleles with positive (Beta) effect on the phenotype (polygenic scores) were compared across populations and racial groups using data from 1000 Genomes and ALFRED. Strong correlations between polygenic scores and population IQ were found (r>0.8). Moreover, the polygenic score obtained from the two independent GWAS exhibited a strong correlation (r= 0.83), even after pruning for linkage disequilibrium.

Factor analysis revealed that most alleles loaded on a single factor, which in turn was strongly correlated to population IQ.

Polygenic and factor scores survived control for phylogenetic autocorrelation, although the latter’s net effect on population was stronger (Betas= 0.361 and 0.861, respectively).

Results obtained from ALFRED data were similar and revealed a peak in polygenic and factor scores among East Asians (60.8% and 1.06, respectively) and a nadir among Africans and Native Americans (44.1% and 0.493)."
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gaussian distribution ? why not just say the simple sentence : is a natural/normal phenomenon ?

and as hashi said, the samples used to have these conclusions can't be significant as the population is to huge, how many did they take ? 10000 ? come on. also, these academic studies can't be used imo as arguments as it is a highly dynamic field of research. you know what research is ? you search for something that you don't understand yet.

the only way these studies can be used is to say : this guy (dickhead 2001) found that his head had a shape of a ****, while this guy (ball's head 2005) found that dickhead's head had a shape of an ass. you assimilate and synthesise the theory but you keep yoursel objective about it and don't affirm that it is true, or that it is false.
even if you make a study and find on you own sample results that are consistent with (dickhead 2001) (his head has a shape of a ****) you say : my results are consistent with dickhead 2001 ----> you don't affirm that your results and his results are the truth
thus, how can you use them as arguments ?

also, I've read in what you've writen that only the smartest africans make it to europe ? lol that's wrong man. smartness has nothing to do with it, you just need rich papa and mama to go and study and work theire.


damn I might be wrong on this actually.
the fact is that I don't even know what you're arguing about I just found this massive post and I've read it so I might be out of subject hahahahha
 
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ANiMUS said:
There are problems no matter where you go and as time passes they will only increase. I doubt ppl will leave the country though, ppl said the same thing with Obama
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Trump might not even be close to winning the elections because the popular votes now got to Hilary Clinton. If they leave this country, it might be hard for them to get citizenship elsewhere so I don't trust their opinions.
 
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nefraiko said:
gaussian distribution ? why not just say the simple sentence : is a natural/normal phenomenon ?

and as hashi said, the samples used to have these conclusions can't be significant as the population is to huge, how many did they take ? 10000 ? come on. also, these academic studies can't be used imo as arguments as it is a highly dynamic field of research. you know what research is ? you search for something that you don't understand yet.

the only way these studies can be used is to say : this guy (dickhead 2001) found that his head had a shape of a ****, while this guy (ball's head 2005) found that dickhead's head had a shape of an ass. you assimilate and synthesise the theory but you keep yoursel objective about it and don't affirm that it is true, or that it is false.
even if you make a study and find on you own sample results that are consistent with (dickhead 2001) (his head has a shape of a ****) you say : my results are consistent with dickhead 2001 ----> you don't affirm that your results and his results are the truth
thus, how can you use them as arguments ?

also, I've read in what you've writen that only the smartest africans make it to europe ? lol that's wrong man. smartness has nothing to do with it, you just need rich papa and mama to go and study and work theire.


damn I might be wrong on this actually.
the fact is that I don't even know what you're arguing about I just found this massive post and I've read it so I might be out of subject hahahahha
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Yeah he sounded more butthurtt than convincing XD
 
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Queen Mysterious said:
Do you guys water your grass a lot? Or do you guys have water restrictions
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Most of the lawns I've seen are made up of rocks (including mine). So yeah, if you have grass, I would have to water the grass a lot. I have never heard of any water restrictions, which is odd since California has them.
 
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Xlad said:
Very extreme. The weather is usually very hot from May to July, then it gets very cold from December to February.

The worst part of the day is from noon to early afternoon.
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Most of the lawns I've seen are made up of rocks (including mine). So yeah, if you have grass, I would have to water the grass a lot. I have never heard of any water restrictions, which is odd since California has them.
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This exactly describes the place where I live as well
 
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Netherlands, and to be honest my opinions are my own.

But there are plenty I personally don't like about it, sometimes making me debate if I should move back to the Carribean.
 
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Xlad said:
Most of the lawns I've seen are made up of rocks (including mine). So yeah, if you have grass, I would have to water the grass a lot. I have never heard of any water restrictions, which is odd since California has them.
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That sucks tbh. Lol at least you guys don't have to cut the grass really
 
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