What character had absolutely no relevance to the plot?

The Necromancer · Mar 19, 2017

AniCetuS said:
If Kishi actually did remove Sakura then he'd replaced her with someone else to do the CPR to Naruto. How hard is that to figure out lol.

Ok? You can say that about literally any other character in the manga.

Naruto wasn't there? Kiba would replace him.
Sasuke wasn't there? Neji would replace him.

Within the context of the current plot of the manga (that means outside of further hypotheticals) Sakura prevented the end of the world by saving Naruto's life when no one else could.

Mellanoma · Mar 19, 2017

AniCetuS said:
If Kishi actually did remove Sakura then he'd replaced her with someone else to do the CPR to Naruto. How hard is that to figure out lol.

In all honesty... If Sakura had Karin's traits + her chakra enhanced strength she would have been amazing.

Darth AniCetuS · Mar 19, 2017

Mellanoma said:
In all honesty... If Sakura had Karin's traits + her chakra enhanced strength she would have been amazing.

And in all honesty, everyone would've loved a well developed and balanced Sakura. But that didn't happen sadly.

Darth AniCetuS · Mar 19, 2017

The Necromancer said:
Ok? You can say that about literally any other character in the manga.

Naruto wasn't there? Kiba would replace him.
Sasuke wasn't there? Neji would replace him.

Within the context of the current plot of the manga (that means outside of further hypotheticals) Sakura prevented the end of the world by saving Naruto's life when no one else could.

All I am saying is her character is easily replaceable.

If you replace Naruto with anyone else you need to change the name of the entire manga.
If you replace Sasuke with Neji then probably you'll need to change the uchiha backstory with Hyuga
If you replace Sakura, you just need to replace her with another medic for the most part and she's rarely been useful in battle so that too can be easily managed.

Mellanoma · Mar 19, 2017

AniCetuS said:
And in all honesty, everyone would've loved a well developed and balanced Sakura. But that didn't happen sadly.

I think i made a thread about this LOOOONG ago but to be fair you couldn't expect much from Sakura based on:

1) Her team mates are So6P son reincarnates meaning they will ALWAYS outshine her
2) Her mentor was very narrow minded and didn't specialize in anything BUT medical ninjutsu stunting her development
3) She never had a true rival to push her.

I think ill make another thread on it. Sakura lives matter

Darth AniCetuS · Mar 19, 2017

Mellanoma said:
I think i made a thread about this LOOOONG ago but to be fair you couldn't expect much from Sakura based on:

1) Her team mates are So6P son reincarnates meaning they will ALWAYS outshine her
2) Her mentor was very narrow minded and didn't specialize in anything BUT medical ninjutsu stunting her development
3) She never had a true rival to push her.

I think ill make another thread on it. Sakura lives matter

I agree that she couldn't have caught up to Naruto and Sasuke but still I think she could've been better than the one we got.

Mellanoma · Mar 19, 2017

AniCetuS said:
I agree that she couldn't have caught up to Naruto and Sasuke but still I think she could've been better than the one we got.

She had no rival or motivation. Think of every person in the manga that was powerful. They all had a rival or a challenge to overcome UNLESS they were gifted geniuses or had another motive to be stronger

Sakura's rival was Ino who she out did 30 chapters in lol

lndra · Mar 19, 2017

Characters who never had their own story arc are completely useless to the plot, I don't care what they did tbh.

Darth AniCetuS · Mar 19, 2017

Mellanoma said:
She had no rival or motivation. Think of every person in the manga that was powerful. They all had a rival or a challenge to overcome UNLESS they were gifted geniuses or had another motive to be stronger

Sakura's rival was Ino who she out did 30 chapters in lol

Yep that was one of the many problems.

Donald J Trump · Mar 20, 2017

LeSauce said:
What about the Ramen guy? Also that chick from the cloud village.

The relevance to the story doesn't have to be major at all for it them to be a part. Here is how the "The Ramen" guy played a part in the story... ready?

When a shonen manga like Naruto,Black clover,One piece is made, the mangakas often draw in the MC as someone everyone can like or relate to. This involves generally "silly" or "stupid" characters who like eating food and defending the weak whilst never giving up. The underdog character. In Naruto, for him to have this feel that he was just a normal good guy who we can relate to, he needed to have hobbies and troubles like us.The Ramen shop was introduced to show off his love for CHEAP food and the Ramen guy was made to keep the shop running.The shop was later used as a place for Naruto to have deep conversations with others like Kakashi, Iruka and Jiraya.

As for the girl from the cloud village, I'm not sure who you're talking about.

MomoSaka · Mar 20, 2017

lndra said:
Characters who never had their own story arc are completely useless to the plot, I don't care what they did tbh.

So oro is useless?!huh??
Since he didn't really got his FULL backstory..

To Whatever · Mar 20, 2017

The Necromancer said:
Ok? You can say that about literally any other character in the manga.

Naruto wasn't there? Kiba would replace him.
Sasuke wasn't there? Neji would replace him.

Within the context of the current plot of the manga (that means outside of further hypotheticals) Sakura prevented the end of the world by saving Naruto's life when no one else could.

Obito saved Naruto...

Sakura was making desperate attempts to keep him from dying in which case it wasn't working at all. That on top of her running out of chakra and his body failing couldn't be slowed or stopped with medical ninjutsu. That's one of the reasons she had to try to pump his heart by hand.

Without Obito, he was going to die.

wanderingcactus · Mar 20, 2017

Im Still Robin said:
Itachi, he literally had no effect on anything towards to plot which was peace.

That fool killed his entire clan, went to join the bad guys, never attempted to fight them, had AIDS, etc.

I don't think you know the definition of plot is then.

If anything, it's Shisui. Sure his death gave Itachi the means to kill his clan but I'm pretty sure he would've done so without him.
He would've gotten his MS anyways by simply killing his family.

Itachi is a huge part of the plot as without him, his entire clan would've died off killing Sasuke in the process.

Sakura in Part 1. Literally could've had a different person join their team and would make no difference. Partially relevance in Part 2 as she is a medic. Any other role she played was BS. Like suddenly becoming strong and keeping up with Naruto and Sasuke and other Kages and ultimately Kaguya. Pure asspull.

1010, Like whattt? but tbh she is the most true ninja there is though. Like she is no BS ninja powers and such. She's all about that scrolls and illusion and weapons. She's the truest ninja in the whole NV

Hinata. There was love interest in Part 1 but in Part 2, that fell apart and started becoming replaced by Sakura then they did a 180 and went back to Hinata and Sakura going back to Sasuke. WTF was that all about?

Well practically most female characters because that's how Kishi is.

Kakashi used to be relevant in Part 1 and early Part 2 then he also started fading away in the middle of Part 2. He came back during the Obito vs Shinobi Alliance arc but that should have been the end of it.

Again, Sakura and Kakashi's role in the end might as well be replaced by a stick. "well how about when...."

Those scenarios where to make those 2 seem like they have any use. Getting random buffs and such just so Kishi can tie in the whole Team 7 vibe at the end.

2-7 tails and their JJs. their whole premise was to get captured and get their beasts sealed. Although I do wanted to get more out of them but ultimately they are pretty pointless characters.

Kushina? well she falls into the category of being a woman so... yeah like we didn't need to know about her. We know that Naruto had a mom and so her character really had no relevance. We could've gone with the entire series without knowing her and it wouldn't have made an impact. I thought maybe she will because of her Uzumaki traits and techs but we never got to see them really used. "how about pinning down Kurama?" psssh unnecessary. That was just to introduce Kushina and her powers. "how about Karin...?" again, just to showcase that she is an Uzumaki.

Konno · Mar 20, 2017

Sakura's family has no relevance

lndra · Mar 20, 2017

MomoSaka said:
So oro is useless?!huh??
Since he didn't really got his FULL backstory..

IMO Oro had a arc with Tsunade/Jiraiya in terms of backstory.

It counts

Amenotejikara · Mar 20, 2017

lol hinata or tenten considering even sakura still managed to keep ninja's alive through medical nin. You could argue hinata is tied to neji's backstory but honestly the main objective of his story could've remained the same without her.

To Whatever · Mar 20, 2017

Amenotejikara said:
lol hinata or tenten considering even sakura still managed to keep ninja's alive through medical nin. You could argue hinata is tied to neji's backstory but honestly the main objective of his story could've remained the same without her.

Both of them have plot relevance. Literally every character in the NV has plot relevance except for unnamed characters.

123fire · Mar 20, 2017

Tenten and Shino

dms_kakashi · Mar 20, 2017

Im Still Robin said:
Itachi, he literally had no effect on anything towards to plot which was peace.

That fool killed his entire clan, went to join the bad guys, never attempted to fight them, had AIDS, etc.

I am no Itachi hater(I dont care at all). But your post makes sense. Itachi undid edo tensie. But everyone except Madara could be taken out by fodders and Kage. They were useless anyways. Instead it would help main fighters like Nardo,Sasuke,Kakashi,Guy,Bee ,Minato. They dont need to waste their energy with fodders.

Melanin · Mar 20, 2017

Laura Kinney said:
Obito saved Naruto...

Sakura was making desperate attempts to keep him from dying in which case it wasn't working at all. That on top of her running out of chakra and his body failing couldn't be slowed or stopped with medical ninjutsu. That's one of the reasons she had to try to pump his heart by hand.

Without Obito, he was going to die.

No facts.

Sakura kept his physical body alive long enough for a the needed chakra could be placed in his body. You can't put chakra into a dead body dawg, anyway here you go not....