What Casues Sasuke To Channel Black Lightning?

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Naruto's seal is already naturally white in the manga. The instance with Naruto's truthseekers is obviously an artistic error as well as completely unrelated to the point.

not good enough...sasuke's seal can also be passes off as an art error...also sasuke says nothing about using the seals for enhancing the power of chidori...he states "six paths chakra" which they both INTERNALLY possess...what you are doing is using fanfic to explain my question
 

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not good enough...sasuke's seal can also be passes off as an art error...also sasuke says nothing about using the seals for enhancing the power of chidori...he states "six paths chakra" which they both INTERNALLY possess...what you are doing is using fanfic to explain my question
Then you would have to prove that the Yin Seal being blatantly shown to turn white during the only instance that Sasuke uses a senjutsu Chidori is an inconsistency.

Naruto's truthseekers being miscolored in one panel doesn't give any credibility to your argument.

Sasuke states that he has the Six Paths power. He possessed the Yin Seal at that time, did he not? The seal itself possesses Hagoromo's chakra, therefore Sasuke has Hagoromo's chakra as long as he possesses the seal.
Nothing in the manga ever implied that they possess Hagoromo's chakra internally.
 
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Then you would have to prove that the Yin Seal being blatantly shown to turn white during the only instance that Sasuke uses a senjutsu Chidori is an inconsistency.

Naruto's truthseekers being miscolored in one panel doesn't give any credibility to your argument.

Sasuke states that he has the Six Paths power. He possessed the Yin Seal at that time, did he not? The seal itself possesses Hagoromo's chakra, therefore Sasuke has Hagoromo's chakra as long as he possesses the seal.
Nothing in the manga ever implied that they possess Hagoromo's chakra internally.

if they did not possess hagoromo's chakra internally then why did naruto still have six paths sage mode after losing the yang seal?...why did sasuke have rinnegan after losing the yin seal?...chakra is INTERNAL no matter how you try to spin it...ps sasuke's yin seal was an art error...if he acknowledged the seal when using the black chidori then you'd be right...too bad he didnt
 

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if they did not possess hagoromo's chakra internally then why did naruto still have six paths sage mode after losing the yang seal?...why did sasuke have rinnegan after losing the yin seal?...chakra is INTERNAL no matter how you try to spin it...
Because Hagoromo's chakra had nothing to do with their powers in the 1st place. The seals that possessed his chakra were extras that were meant for sealing the Ten Tails.
ps sasuke's yin seal was an art error...if he acknowledged the seal when using the black chidori then you'd be right...too bad he didnt
Still waiting for actual evidence that it's an art error.

A seal made of Six Paths Sage chakra isn't Six Paths power? Sasuke saying that he will use the Six Paths power is acknowledgment of the seal. Being stubborn because you're wrong isn't helping your argument.
 

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Because Hagoromo's chakra had nothing to do with their powers in the 1st place. The seals that possessed his chakra were extras that were meant for sealing the Ten Tails.

Still waiting for actual evidence that it's an art error.

A seal made of Six Paths Sage chakra isn't Six Paths power? Sasuke saying that he will use the Six Paths power is acknowledgment of the seal. Being stubborn because you're wrong isn't helping your argument.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...naruto and sasuke's powers after sealing kaguya is proof that the seals have nothing to do with it...and I am being stubborn?...proof is in the fact that sasuke's yin seal did not turn white ever again...not even when the sealing took place
 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...naruto and sasuke's powers after sealing kaguya is proof that the seals have nothing to do with it
Never said that the seals were the source of their power.

Naruto's Sage power is stated to come from possessing the power of all the Biju.
Sasuke's Rinnegan is stated to be directly received from Hagoromo.

Nowhere is this nonsense "Hagoromo's chakra half" ever mentioned.
...and I am being stubborn?...proof is in the fact that sasuke's yin seal did not turn white ever again...not even when the sealing took place
What you're stating isn't even evidence. You're just arbitrarily making up criteria for your argument to be true.
The seal turned white in response to Sasuke drawing chakra from it to imbue into his Chidori.
It did not turn white when Six Paths CT was used which is merely transferring of the seal. This is the only relevant information here, not your conjecture.

The differences in the situations alone would already dismiss any sort of argument that you would try to make for a connection between the two.
 

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Never said that the seals were the source of their power.

Naruto's Sage power is stated to come from possessing the power of all the Biju.
Sasuke's Rinnegan is stated to be directly received from Hagoromo.

Nowhere is this nonsense "Hagoromo's chakra half" ever mentioned.

What you're stating isn't even evidence. You're just arbitrarily making up criteria for your argument to be true.
The seal turned white in response to Sasuke drawing chakra from it to imbue into his Chidori.
It did not turn white when Six Paths CT was used which is merely transferring of the seal. This is the only relevant information here, not your conjecture.

The differences in the situations alone would already dismiss any sort of argument that you would try to make for a connection between the two.

wrong...naruto's sage power came from hagoromo as stated by kishimoto in the fourth databook:

Ninjutsu, Senjutsu - Six Paths Sage Mode
No rank, no range, offensive, defensive, supplementary
Users: Naruto Uzumaki

⬅ The floating ability used by the Sage of Six Paths is also almost mastered unconsciously by this technique's user.

From the ancestor of shinobi, a divine state is gifted, touching the principles of all creation, commanding all things in nature

The qualities for obtaining this technique are strict studying and using a small gist in chakra kneading sensibility. An iron faith to face any hardship and the guts to never give up. Furthermore, the returning incarnation and fate's guidance ― only those who hold those are granted the Sage of Six Paths' powers. Those who activate the technique come to understand the flow of all life, gain a deep insight at the world's origins and are able to apply it on interacting allies without changing the way of things. This technique isn't something shinobi are chosen to experience. It is a technique that chooses shinobi.

➡ Kicking the "Truth-Seeking Ball"! Exceeding the Kurama Mode, a feat accomplished by a huge chakra.

⬅The reaction speed is not less than equal to Madara, who had turned into the Ten-Tails' jinchuriki. The sensing ability has also risen!!

ps is six paths chibaku tensei not a "jutsu"?...if your fanfic is correct (it's not) then why did it not turn white?
 

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Pretty sure it's an inconsistency. Sasuke won't do it anytime soon.
 

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Senjutsu from the curse seal and Rikudou Chakra after the Sage's power up is what allows him to channel black lightning. He can choose to tap into that chakra or not, as we saw him consciously use it why asking Naruto to do the same.

It has nothing to do with the seals, it's the dormant Six Path's Chakra in them which their received from the Sage. Sasuke used black lightning again in Boruto movie.
 

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Senjutsu from the curse seal and Rikudou Chakra after the Sage's power up is what allows him to channel black lightning. He can choose to tap into that chakra or not, as we saw him consciously use it why asking Naruto to do the same.

It has nothing to do with the seals, it's the dormant Six Path's Chakra in them which their received from the Sage. Sasuke used black lightning again in Boruto movie.

That was not black lightning...that was Amaterasu
 

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I'd infer that it was more of not imbuing Senjutsu into his Chidori rather than not applying Rikudou Chakra/ Cursed Seal Chakra to his Chidori.
 

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Senjutsu from the cursed seal caused his Chidori to become black in the first instance and Hagoromo's Sage chakra form the Yin Seal caused Sasuke's Chidori to become black in the second.

The cursed seal only replaces the chakra that it feeds on with Orochimaru's Sage chakra. All of Sasuke's reserves aren't senjutsu in this form. He simply decided not to imbue his Chidori with Sage power in that instance, unlike during VOTE.

The Chidori that he used against Kaguya isn't black since it possesses no senjutsu. He isn't drawing on Hagoromo's Sage chakra that is stored in the Yin seal.

This .CM2 Sasuke chidori was even initially white in vote 1 but then turned black .
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wrong...naruto's sage power came from hagoromo as stated by kishimoto in the fourth databook:

Ninjutsu, Senjutsu - Six Paths Sage Mode
No rank, no range, offensive, defensive, supplementary
Users: Naruto Uzumaki

⬅ The floating ability used by the Sage of Six Paths is also almost mastered unconsciously by this technique's user.

From the ancestor of shinobi, a divine state is gifted, touching the principles of all creation, commanding all things in nature

The qualities for obtaining this technique are strict studying and using a small gist in chakra kneading sensibility. An iron faith to face any hardship and the guts to never give up. Furthermore, the returning incarnation and fate's guidance ― only those who hold those are granted the Sage of Six Paths' powers. Those who activate the technique come to understand the flow of all life, gain a deep insight at the world's origins and are able to apply it on interacting allies without changing the way of things. This technique isn't something shinobi are chosen to experience. It is a technique that chooses shinobi.

➡ Kicking the "Truth-Seeking Ball"! Exceeding the Kurama Mode, a feat accomplished by a huge chakra.

⬅The reaction speed is not less than equal to Madara, who had turned into the Ten-Tails' jinchuriki. The sensing ability has also risen!!
Gift from Hagoromo=/=Hagoromo's chakra.

All the databook implies is that Hagoromo's intervention is the reason that Naruto obtained the form. Hagoromo made Naruto the meeting point for the Biju, so him "gifting" Naruto with the form still stands.

Shikamaru Hiden directly gives the mode a source, which would be the Biju.

Naruto's form coming from a chakra that is limited in quantity makes zero sense anyway.
ps is six paths chibaku tensei not a "jutsu"?...if your fanfic is correct (it's not) then why did it not turn white?
This doesn't even matter. The manga has shown the Yin seal turning white in response to Sasuke drawing chakra from it, so my stance is validated by panel while yours is not.
 

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It's obviously his chakra come from Hagoromo and it has Senjutsu properties..
 

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nothing proves black lightning comes from yin seal. No proof whatsoever.
 

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inconsistency, but we all like it cuz it looks kewl
 

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Gift from Hagoromo=/=Hagoromo's chakra.

All the databook implies is that Hagoromo's intervention is the reason that Naruto obtained the form. Hagoromo made Naruto the meeting point for the Biju, so him "gifting" Naruto with the form still stands.

Shikamaru Hiden directly gives the mode a source, which would be the Biju.

Naruto's form coming from a chakra that is limited in quantity makes zero sense anyway.

This doesn't even matter. The manga has shown the Yin seal turning white in response to Sasuke drawing chakra from it, so my stance is validated by panel while yours is not.

Shikamaru Hidan is not written by kishimoto...also you were proven wrong on that chibaku tensei example...anything else you got?
 
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