[Discussion] What are the top 5 strongest gotein 13 captains?

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After kenpachi and byakuya I pretty much consider anyone that gets negged by wonderweis fodder. Ichibei still solos, speed of darkness gg, name changed gg, solo darkness gg. Only those of Soloywhech tier or higher can stand up to trollobei. Even if he is part of the royal guard.
 

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Kenpachi
Kyoraku
Byakuya
Mayuri
Rose (If he uses mask and doesn't friggin explain ability)

Not sure why people bother to put Ukitake on their lists as all we've seen him is shit. He failed Kaien and Rukia by being weak and got beat by Wonderweis. What he did against Starrk wasn't really impressive either since Starrk quickly deduced his ability and found a way to counter it. So all he really has is hype but nothing to show for it yet, so hopefully Kubo decides to show something soon.
 

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Byakuya
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Rose (If he uses mask and doesn't friggin explain ability)

Not sure why people bother to put Ukitake on their lists as all we've seen him is shit. He failed Kaien and Rukia by being weak and got beat by Wonderweis. What he did against Starrk wasn't really impressive either since Starrk quickly deduced his ability and found a way to counter it. So all he really has is hype but nothing to show for it yet, so hopefully Kubo decides to show something soon.
He failed against kaien cuz he caughed up blood.

He's equal to kyoraku,Yama praised his zanpacto as one of the strongest an said that him an kyoraku together are stronger than anyone who's come before an ever sense...even stark stated he has a pretty scary ability...he also survived the battle against Yama.

He was tooken out by wonderwiess cuz he did not know what to expect from him an he was not ukitake primary target.
 
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He failed against kaien cuz he caughed up blood.

He's equal to kyoraku,Yama praised his zanpacto as one of the strongest an said that him an kyoraku together are stronger than anyone who's come before an ever sense...even stark stated he has a pretty scary ability...he also survived the battle against Yama.

He was tooken out by wonderwiess cuz he did not know what to expect from him an he was not ukitake primary target.

Yama said alot of things that wern't true, and just cus someone says it doesn't make it a fact either. Surviving a battle against Yama not even trying to properly kill them.. big deal. He coughed up blood so what? Killing that hollow should've been easy for a captain yet he failed.

Also someone like Ukitake should know better than to just casually drop his guard and get taken out by Wonderweiss so again not impressive.

So really your arguments havn't proven anything.
 

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Yama said alot of things that wern't true, and just cus someone says it doesn't make it a fact either. Surviving a battle against Yama not even trying to properly kill them.. big deal. He coughed up blood so what? Killing that hollow should've been easy for a captain yet he failed.

Also someone like Ukitake should know better than to just casually drop his guard and get taken out by Wonderweiss so again not impressive.

So really your arguments havn't proven anything.
What did Yama say that was not true?

I don't believe he ever wanted to kill kaien in the first place an him caughing up blood completely stopped his movements so how's he supposed to fight?

Nobody really had they guard for ww when he first arrived an he just happend to attack ukitake,he can't have his guard up for stark an ww at the same time.

You said that stark found a way to counter his ability? When did he ever show us him countering ukitake ability?
 

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What did Yama say that was not true?

I don't believe he ever wanted to kill kaien in the first place an him caughing up blood completely stopped his movements so how's he supposed to fight?

Nobody really had they guard for ww when he first arrived an he just happend to attack ukitake,he can't have his guard up for stark an ww at the same time.

You said that stark found a way to counter his ability? When did he ever show us him countering ukitake ability?

Yama said alot of shit that wasn't true, not gonna name it all but once again - just because someone says something DOESN'T make it a fact by default.

I'm not talking about Ukitake killing Kaien, I'm talking about when the hollow was not in Kaien's body yet and he was droning on about the honor thing which was ridiculous. And even while the hollow was in Kaien he still should've been easy even for a weakend captain. Coughing up blood shouldn't render him completely useless or else why is he even a captain to begin with.

I'm not saying anyone can have his or her guard up against two people at the same time but someone with alot of combat experience like we're led to believe Ukitake has SHOULD know to atleast be prepared and not stand around like a baffoon in the midst of a battle.

After some toying around Starrk said something along the lines of there's a limit of how much you can shoot back I believe - it was never put in practice since WW arrived.
 
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