[Spoilers] What are people's thoughts on this?

[WhistleBlower]

[h=2][not mine][/h][h=2]Rayleigh roaming alive and unending and unpredictable story of "One Piece"[/h]

The topic seems very unobvious and weird at the same time but there's this thing in my mind.

1) If Rayleigh has knowledge of One Piece and history of Voids isn't he a bigger threat than Dragon, Luffy and Robin at the same time who are just trying to find it?

2) Normally people who chase after One Piece or Void century are in blacklist of Government and are killed. The case of Ohara.

3) Rayleigh knows about One Piece/Void history and was smiling when he was just about to tell Robin and Luffy about it. Is it such normal thing? And if so if it is something really obvious then why would world government not let anyone search it or search about Void Century?

4) Rayleigh said Straw Hats will be in position to do nothing about the history (possibly because they were too weak). He said conclusion that straw hats will reach to could be different from their's. Maybe roger pirates gave up against Government because the Captain was weak and going to die? But I don't buy a D running away from loss specially Roger. Roger surrendered because he knew he was going to die but couldn't back then his comrades and Whitebeard pirates have declare war combined against Government?

5) Rayleigh's location once found wasn't unknown. If buster call can be initiated on Ohara who knew just portion of it why not Sabody? Or try to capture Rayleigh or kill him? I know Garp didn't want two legends to be forced in battle at once but Kizaru is above Garp in Marine ranks and sure doesn't seem someone with Moral Justice.

If One Piece treasure is breaking red line and combining world and all blue then didn't Roger fail? If it's just knowing about history then and do nothing about it also a fail. And D are superior to Celestial Dragon and World Government so far it is hinted. But was it only the hatred and jealousy that the world government wants to hide?

I believe One Piece is some sort of message of friendship, trust and loyalty in comrades but the void century secret was something so big that Roger wasn't capable or strong enough to either heal it or had very littlle remaining time on his clock. Luffy will be able to heal and change history something which will keep his name above Roger.

Hats off to Oda he has only made me confuse all this way on this ride xD​

 

[HENI]

so Straw Hats are too weak..

 

[Pirate King]

roger was strongest man alive, so i doubt he wasnt strong enough to do something

and if rayleigh knows then why wouldnt shanks and buggy

 

[ultraChalk]

roger was strongest man alive, so i doubt he wasnt strong enough to do something

and if rayleigh knows then why wouldnt shanks and buggy

Who says Shanks didn't know? And Buggy definitely wouldn't know, he was still a cabin boy in training.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Oda already said OP wouldn't be something cliche like a message of friendship and the journey. He said after such a journey, it'd be wrong for the Strawhats not to be rewarded, which was pretty much him guaranteeing One Piece will be a material thing or things of value. Good points in there, but it was already confirmed not to be destroying the Red Line or an abstract moral lesson in that interview.

 

[-ahhimane-]

We don't know what happened after Luffy, Sanji and Zoro ran away from the marines (after time skip and their meeting at Sabaody and farewell to Rayleigh).
The marines identified Rayleigh as the vice captain of Roger's ship and what happened after that? No one knows yet.

By the way, I'm having a BIG doubt here, if the whole crew reached Raftel and knew about One Piece then doesn't that mean they all are "Pirate King"? Lol

IMO, One Piece isn't treasure, otherwise the members of Roger's crew, who turned EVIL in current story must have aimed for it but Shanks, Rayleigh aren't. Whitebeard who was Roger's rival also aimed for becoming the Pirate King but we never saw him sailing towards Raftel OR say what was Whitebeard doing on the ocean for the past 20 years?

 

[Punk Hazard]

We don't know what happened after Luffy, Sanji and Zoro ran away from the marines (after time skip and their meeting at Sabaody and farewell to Rayleigh).
The marines identified Rayleigh as the vice captain of Roger's ship and what happened after that? No one knows yet.

By the way, I'm having a BIG doubt here, if the whole crew reached Raftel and knew about One Piece then doesn't that mean they all are "Pirate King"? Lol

IMO, One Piece isn't treasure, otherwise the members of Roger's crew, who turned EVIL in current story must have aimed for it but Shanks, Rayleigh aren't. Whitebeard who was Roger's rival also aimed for becoming the Pirate King but we never saw him sailing towards Raftel OR say what was Whitebeard doing on the ocean for the past 20 years?

Whitebeard never wanted to be Pirate King, at least, not after Roger became the Pirate King. Ace wanted to make Whitebeard the Pirate King, but Whitebeard just wanted a family. Oda said One Piece will be a reward to the Strawhats, so it's most likely something they'll place great value in.

 

[Anduril]

Hmm apparently roger and co. after learning the history arriived at a conclusion that was not a good one. We cannot really say anything at this point because we know so little. But apparently they must have arrived at a conclusion like "The world is not worth saving or something like that"

About the marines not taking out rayleigh Kizaru made it clear. Rayleigh was more than something the marnies could afford to try and capture. Beacause for starters, rayleigh will not make a stand like WB but most likely just try to run away and to let him run is more benefecial for the marines than make 2 admirals take him out. Considering ray can swim across an entire calm belt without breaking a sweat.

 

[Zeta42]

The reason why Sabaody can't be Buster Called is because the Marine HQ is also there. At least that's how it was before the timeskip. Now that they relocated, I don't know what's stopping them from destroying Sabaody. Maybe because Rayleigh isn't helpless and has a good chance of escaping?

 

[WhistleBlower]

The reason why Sabaody can't be Buster Called is because the Marine HQ is also there. At least that's how it was before the timeskip. Now that they relocated, I don't know what's stopping them from destroying Sabaody. Maybe because Rayleigh isn't helpless and has a good chance of escaping?

Erness lobby was a government island. One out of three important government islands. They bombarded it, they wouldnt care about a marine HQ. they could just evacuate the island but yeah ultimately i doubt they would call a buster call. Too many innocent civilans will be caught in the crossfire.

The last thing the wg wants is a bad public image.

Whitebeard never wanted to be Pirate King, at least, not after Roger became the Pirate King. Ace wanted to make Whitebeard the Pirate King, but Whitebeard just wanted a family. Oda said One Piece will be a reward to the Strawhats, so it's most likely something they'll place great value in.

Lol, similar to the room of requirement from the Harry potter movies?

 

[MugiwaraBoy]

I believe it's because he's not a D. Maybe Roger got sick trying to do whatever it was while there, but wasn't the chosen one to do so, thus leaving him to die. Luffy on the other hand, will most likely be able to do whatever it is. And I bet his Gomu-Gomu fruit helps him. I don't think it was coincidence that Shanks took it to East Blue.

 

[Pirate King]

I believe it's because he's not a D. Maybe Roger got sick trying to do whatever it was while there, but wasn't the chosen one to do so, thus leaving him to die. Luffy on the other hand, will most likely be able to do whatever it is. And I bet his Gomu-Gomu fruit helps him. I don't think it was coincidence that Shanks took it to East Blue.

gol d. roger............................

 

[MugiwaraBoy]

gol d. roger............................

I obviously meant Rayleigh, since that's what the thread is on about.