Were the Hyuga even the strongest with the absence of the Uchiha?

[KidGamer65]

Neji is my favorite followed by Hinata.

I know why my favorite is strong . Every fodder with Hagoromo / Juubi power is going to beat 99 % of Naruto verse

Fixed. Any Uchiha of note>your fav.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Oh yeah, and btw. The latter scan does talk about Shunshin, but it refers to Minato setting his Kunai around the field for the Hokage Barrier. You are definitely correct about him entering the battlefield using Hiraishin as it so blatantly shows in the scan.

how many more hoops do u plan on jumping through today? hiruzen prasies minato's speed upon arrival and tobirama says his shushin is faster. lmao tobirama didn't even know minato had the ftg kunais ready so how the heck would his remark relate to minato placing the kunais on the field vs minato simply arriving first when the shushin comment was made upon their arrival??? tobi praises minato later for the kunais when it is, oh i dont know, ACTUALLY brought to his attention

 

[DrProof]

Lol why do people use kido as neji feats to be relevant in shippuden. Didnt kimi beat his ass and the other 3 all by himself in a flashback.

Neji vs Kidomaru isn't even credible, because Kidomaru >> Neji, and the only reason Neji won was because of his ability to insert chakra, and destroy said target. Which is BS by itself, because Neji should've been dead when that arrow hit his ass, not even including all of the shit he got hit with prior to the huge gash in his pectoral.

Kidomaru was stomping the shit out of Neji. But alas, the Hyuga had to prevail.

 

[KidGamer65]

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she punched him and no significant damage was caused. but anyone with common sense can see that it can take down an average shinobi

the Air Palm being able to blow Kisame meters away proves that it is forceful

a normal punch can cause a significant damage if it was directed at a vital spot, so why can't an air palm?

She knocked him towards the Shinju and actually caused a large impact and sent him deep into the trunk of said tree and even knocked something over. Air Palm hasn't done shit. Not a damn thing. :lol It blew Kisame back less than 5 meters and did zero damage.

This is exactly what I was talking about. Stop using bad logic and get back to Asuma vs. Neji. I didn't come here to argue Air Palm for the a millionth time.

 

[KidGamer65]

how many more hoops do u plan on jumping through today? hiruzen prasies minato's speed upon arrival and tobirama says his shushin is faster. lmao tobirama didn't even know minato had the ftg kunais ready so how the heck would his remark relate to minato placing the kunais on the field vs minato simply arriving first when the shushin comment was made upon their arrival??? tobi praises minato later for the kunais when it is, oh i dont know, ACTUALLY brought to his attention

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Not tryna hear it.

 

[Made in Heaven]

She knocked him towards the Shinju and actually caused a large impact and sent him deep into the trunk of said tree and even knocked something over. Air Palm hasn't done shit. Not a damn thing. :lol It blew Kisame back less than 5 meters and did zero damage.

This is exactly what I was talking about. Stop using bad logic and get back to Asuma vs. Neji. I didn't come here to argue Air Palm for the a millionth time.

yes please let us return to arguing whether one jonin with feats is stronger than another jonin without feats.

 

[KidGamer65]

"guyz. hiruzen>sasukeh in speed cuz hiruzen got dere first"

 

[Made in Heaven]

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Not tryna hear it.

hey no need to tell me that i am well aware u have ur head in the ground

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Fixed. Any Uchiha of note>your fav.

none of the Uchiha can be > than my favorite cause my favorite is Madara.

Just because Madara is my favorite doesn´t mean other Uchihas are too.

I like Hyugas more than Uchihas its that hard to understand.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

No, there is no reason to put him as an isolated case. :lol You credit durability yet Gentle Fist bypasses that

And no, there aren't going to be anymore feats for that jutsu so in reality what you are saying is that you won't agree because you don't want to. Lmao. Exactly what I was talking about a few pages back.

Kisame was Bijuu 0 and we never got to see a Hyuuga battling a Tailed Beast. Tailed Beast, Not jinchuuriki. That is a different level of durability.

And sure I can adjust to the potential fact that Air palms don't really have internal damage since we really didn't see it, albeit being described in the databook.

@inclined you have to know me more before you can say that.

 

[Made in Heaven]

"guyz. hiruzen>sasukeh in speed cuz hiruzen got dere first"

facts say so, so yeah he is. i love, i utterly love how u use something like, say, sasuke/itachi being able to catch bee w/ his sunglasses on to say genutsu can work on byakugan even with the eyes closed even though if anything it's nothing more than ignoring a character's design for the purpose of story telling (not that i disagree) yet here u want to cry on and on about hiruzen not possibily being faster than sasuke even though he showed up first.

lmao where is the logic here? all the hokages were shown to be faster than sasuke.

and u can keep crying about hinata's speed feat being nonsensical, which it isn't considering we never had any prior knowledge of her speed to say otherwise, but considering all the bs pulled out near the end of the manga, accept things as they come, just like how fodderkura ran away from kaguya's arm temporarily

 

[DrProof]

Kisame was Bijuu 0 and we never got to see a Hyuuga battling a Tailed Beast. Tailed Beast, Not jinchuuriki. That is a different level of durability.

And sure I can adjust to the potential fact that Air palms don't really have internal damage since we really didn't see it, albeit being described in the databook.

@inclined you have to know me more before you can say that.

@bold. What? As KG already stated, durability means nothing to the Gentle Fist, being a Hyuga fan you, and everyone else should know this. Stop arguing durability for a jutsu that bypasses it all together. It's really this simple:

Air Palm hit Kisame

Kisame took no damage

Air Palm does no damage

Simple.

 

[KidGamer65]

none of the Uchiha can be > than my favorite cause my favorite is Madara.

Just because Madara is my favorite doesn´t mean other Uchihas are too.

I like Hyugas more than Uchihas its that hard to understand.

I don't really care who like you better at the end of the day. The point is you are the butthurt one and you are the one who makes no sense.

Kisame was Bijuu 0 and we never got to see a Hyuuga battling a Tailed Beast. Tailed Beast, Not jinchuuriki. That is a different level of durability.

And sure I can adjust to the potential fact that Air palms don't really have internal damage since we really didn't see it, albeit being described in the databook.

@inclined you have to know me more before you can say that.

Quit talking about durability. Idk how many times I and Kishimoto have to say this, but Gentle Fist bypasses human durability. Kisame was considered the tailless Bijuu because of his chakra, not his durability. Now you are just making things up because you don't want to admit that your favorite's jutsu has a very large shortcoming.

And I don't need to know you to know what you are blatantly doing in this thread.

"Potential fact"

It was shown. Thus it is a fact. Not "potential". Just a fact.

 

[Made in Heaven]

@bold. What? As KG already stated, durability means nothing to the Gentle Fist, being a Hyuga fan you, and everyone else should know this. Stop arguing durability for a jutsu that bypasses it all together. It's really this simple:

Air Palm hit Kisame

Kisame took no damage

Air Palm does no damage

Simple.

i wish ur logic could be as straightforward as this when it comes to hinata instead of jumping to conclusions and assumptions and ignoring raw translations

 

[Exaar]

The bold doesn't make sense. The original Kisame not feeling pain doesn't mean that the clone can't be injured or slowed down by physical attacks when it's a living physical body. Not a puppet in any sense besides the fact it's being manipulated by someone from afar. If Itachi was controlling someone via Genjutsu would they not still be slowed down by attacks of that nature despite Itachi himself not feeling said Pain? Naturally it would.

Well that depends on the injury.

If it something like Broken bones (arms/legs and such), torn muscles or something that will massively affect the bodies ability to move/fight then yes it would slow it down.

If it's something minor like broken ribs or something that would cause major discomfort due to the pain cause via taking a heavy blow, Then i don't see it affecting it at all because them feeling pain/discomfort is irrelevant since they aren't controlling their own bodies.
In this instance we don't know what neji targeted.

and for the record i'm not part of the whole Neji > asuma thing, I'm just trying to put an unbiased view out there.

Literally every Hyuga supporter in this thread is arguing that it does insert chakra into the body, that's the ONLY way to hit the vital spots is to make contact internally.

You don't need to inject someone with chakra to hit a vital spot.

You hit someone in a area of a vital spot/organ hard enough and they will feel it. Which is what airpalm does, it's a heavy blunt force attack, hence kisame being sent flying.

 

[DrProof]

i wish ur logic could be as straightforward as this when it comes to hinata instead of jumping to conclusions and assumptions and ignoring raw translations

Already been proved wrong twice in this thread. You have no credibility. Quit responding.

 

[DrProof]

Well that depends on the injury.

If it something like Broken bones (arms/legs and such), torn muscles or something that will massively affect the bodies ability to move/fight then yes it would slow it down.

If it's something minor like broken ribs or something that would cause major discomfort due to the pain cause via taking a heavy blow, Then i don't see it affecting it at all because them feeling pain/discomfort is irrelevant since they aren't controlling their own bodies.
In this instance we don't know what neji targeted.

and for the record i'm not part of the whole Neji > asuma thing, I'm just trying to put an unbiased view out there.





You don't need to inject someone with chakra to hit a vital spot.

You hit someone in a area of a vital spot/organ hard enough and they will feel it. Which is what airpalm does, it's a heavy blunt force attack, hence kisame being sent flying.

My guy, I know, that's why I listed acupressure as an example. What these Hyuga fans are arguing is that Air Palm strikes the vitals through internal means, which isn't true. What these Hyuga fans are arguing is that Air Palm actually makes any type of internal invasion, which is not true.

All Air Palm does, is blow back the opponent. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Hakke]

She knocked him towards the Shinju and actually caused a large impact and sent him deep into the trunk of said tree and even knocked something over. Air Palm hasn't done shit. Not a damn thing. :lol It blew Kisame back less than 5 meters and did zero damage.

This is exactly what I was talking about. Stop using bad logic and get back to Asuma vs. Neji. I didn't come here to argue Air Palm for the a millionth time.

the Air Palm was stated to be a forceful strike directed at a vital spot. can you get that?

and striking a vital spot can give you an advantage in hand to hand combat.

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I am not saying that he would one-shot Asuma, No. I am saying that he has the advantage because he can strike it from a distance .

 

[Made in Heaven]

Already been proved wrong twice in this thread. You have no credibility. Quit responding.

raws say shushin :gn:

 

[Uchihauzamakibarrage]

Hyuga fans are getting rekt'd in this thread. For the love of goodness mercy... please stop making yourselves look more unintelligent than what you already are.. Come on now use some logic and not fanboyism here