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The reaction is priceless.



It is obvious that North Koreans live in a cave. Their status is a real life parallel to Plato's "Allegory of the cave" and the one of the first things South Korea decides to give them is K-pop.

Smh South Korea, knowledge and real world awareness are two of the most important things we can have to be "free" and understand that propaganda, dictatorship and impositions are terrible. It is obvious that we aren't really free and it is wonderful that we have rules because mammals can be terrible to each other.

We were born to be controlled by a higher sphere, invisible hands that control our economy, politicians that make decisions for us, crazy bastards as presidents..

..and k-pop in North Korea.

Who the hell remembered this? They lost the opportunity to bring knowledge to the North Korean citizens.

What would you pick to show them? My choice is in the text. ;)
 

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They are not living in cave, they are informed about Western stuff enough. We can simply see cultural and systemic difference. Majority of North Koreans are simply morally miles above for this K-Pop cr*p, they have their own traditional and national music with pride.
As someone who was also irritated by this stuff, I am not surprised, that audience was also weird looking.
Also, North Korea has K-Pop themselves, but it is different from typical Westernized South Korean counterpart. They have more 70's-like pop.
 
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They are not living in cave, they are informed about Western stuff enough. We can simply see cultural and systemic difference. Majority of North Koreans are simply morally miles above for this K-Pop cr*p, they have their own traditional and national music with pride.
As someone who was also irritated by this stuff, I am not surprised, that audience was also weird looking.
Also, North Korea has K-Pop themselves, but it is different from typical Westernized South Korean counterpart. They have more 70's-like pop.
They have a band create by Kim with military girls that sing songs from Mickey mouse and Frank Sinatra's my way. They are under control. Morally miles away? This is not true. What you understand by being morally miles away, i understand by having an imposed line of thought.
 

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The Hidden Hand is a bit much to take in at first. A population within a house of mirrors, suddenly shown the reality outside, will simply not process what they are seeing as 'real,' as it contradicts everything they have interacted with and considered reality.

Further, people are capable of seeing more than simply what you show them. They can develop their own intrigues and begin to seek and search for answers, data, facts, opinions, etc on the subject all on their own. There are many statements that my father made to me which I took one way when I was young. I see them very differently, now, as the statements were designed to expose contradictions in thought or to highlight conflicts of goals. When I was young, I saw them as consistent with the illusionary world. As cracks began to form in the illusion - they became picks and wedges to further force my own mind beyond the confines of the maze as they took on completely opposite or multi-faceted meanings.

It is this method, this sowing of the seeds that allow one to begin to process reality as it begins to expose itself, that is far more important than the direct attempt to expose reality or truth.
 

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Jesus christ, it's like they don't know if they are allowed to like it or not. Well, korea is getting closer to each other? That's good?
I would bring them heavy metal.
I think I saw some documentary, some of them hax their tvs so they can watch some korean drama or maybe it was something from china. But they do that in secret.
I don't think they live in a cave though, it's just different there.
 
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What I find really funny, is the amount of ignorance that I saw in this single thread. I am from South Korea and what the "world" or rather the American propaganda to show a worsen relationship between North and South seemed to have work. Did you know that there are not that big of a gap between Koreans, including both "South" and "North".

Sure, there are differences, but, it isn't has bad as you people think it is. North Koreans aren't even mistreated to the point that I have seen people think it is.
 

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What I find really funny, is the amount of ignorance that I saw in this single thread. I am from South Korea and what the "world" or rather the American propaganda to show a worsen relationship between North and South seemed to have work. Did you know that there are not that big of a gap between Koreans, including both "South" and "North".

Sure, there are differences, but, it isn't has bad as you people think it is. North Koreans aren't even mistreated to the point that I have seen people think it is.
I know people who think Kim Jong Un should be killed for letting his own people starve. Or at least they wouldn't care if he died.
 

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What I find really funny, is the amount of ignorance that I saw in this single thread. I am from South Korea and what the "world" or rather the American propaganda to show a worsen relationship between North and South seemed to have work. Did you know that there are not that big of a gap between Koreans, including both "South" and "North".

Sure, there are differences, but, it isn't has bad as you people think it is. North Koreans aren't even mistreated to the point that I have seen people think it is.
I can relate.
 

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What I find really funny, is the amount of ignorance that I saw in this single thread. I am from South Korea and what the "world" or rather the American propaganda to show a worsen relationship between North and South seemed to have work. Did you know that there are not that big of a gap between Koreans, including both "South" and "North".

Sure, there are differences, but, it isn't has bad as you people think it is. North Koreans aren't even mistreated to the point that I have seen people think it is.
I am very glad that you commented to be honest. I had no idea of this. The media shows us otherwise! I know Pyongyang is an amazing city in terms of organization and architecture, their subway galleries are excellent in terms of art and decoration but we get the idea that NK is a very closed society.

I was under the impression that they don't have internet, books are selected by the government, there is not a lot of access to knowledge and freedom of speech is almost null. Is this wrong? Isn't this alone an attack to human rights?

I also know that South Korea has a lot of strict rules. Am i wrong when i say that if you are 16 years old, you have to related with people the same age as you?
 
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I am very glad that you commented to be honest. I had no idea of this. The media shows us otherwise! I know Pyongyang is an amazing city in terms of organization and architecture, their subway galleries are excellent in terms of art and decoration but we get the idea that NK is a very closed society.

I was under the impression that they don't have internet, books are selected by the government, there is not a lot of access to knowledge and freedom of speech is almost null. Is this wrong? Isn't this alone an attack to human rights?

I also know that South Korea has a lot of strict rules. Am i wrong when i say that if you are 16 years old, you have to related with people the same age as you?
It's sure that being under a dictatorship will also have it's inconvenience, sometimes, using threats to keep the citizens from rebelling against you and all but, when I went to the North of Korea, I realized that, is there even people against the leader there? I saw people smile, eat and seemed more at peace than in the South.

It can be considered an attack to the humans rights but, doesn't the other way around the same? Controlling medias, false information and all that.

That's totally false.
 

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It's sure that being under a dictatorship will also have it's inconvenience, sometimes, using threats to keep the citizens from rebelling against you and all but, when I went to the North of Korea, I realized that, is there even people against the leader there? I saw people smile, eat and seemed more at peace than in the South.

It can be considered an attack to the humans rights but, doesn't the other way around the same? Controlling medias, false information and all that.

That's totally false.
I believe you.
I didn't understand your question. The people I spoke of has never been to North Korea, they read some book from people who have escaped there or something.

Amazing that relations seems to improve and stuff.
 
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It's sure that being under a dictatorship will also have it's inconvenience, sometimes, using threats to keep the citizens from rebelling against you and all but, when I went to the North of Korea, I realized that, is there even people against the leader there? I saw people smile, eat and seemed more at peace than in the South.

It can be considered an attack to the humans rights but, doesn't the other way around the same? Controlling medias, false information and all that.

That's totally false.
There are a number of questions about North Korea and the people there. The tail has been used to wag the dog for quite some time. Everyone becomes inexplicably concerned about the tiny hermit kingdom with a nuke when a major economic issue or vote is on the table.

That said, I am not certain I buy into the idea that it is some kind of secret paradise of eden that holds the keys to global peace and prosperity. Certainly, the CIA has been using it for some interesting things - human cloning, apparently being one of them. Iran was also being used for similar projects that it got in trouble for running in the U.S. and Canada by the name of MK Ultra.

There be fuckery afoot on all fronts, given that the CIA also owns most of the western media... or, I should say, the British Crown does - which means the CIA does. But then we have to go back a bit further to understand who owns the British Crown, why they own it, and what they think they are going to gain by owning it.
 

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What I find really funny, is the amount of ignorance that I saw in this single thread. I am from South Korea and what the "world" or rather the American propaganda to show a worsen relationship between North and South seemed to have work. Did you know that there are not that big of a gap between Koreans, including both "South" and "North".

Sure, there are differences, but, it isn't has bad as you people think it is. North Koreans aren't even mistreated to the point that I have seen people think it is.
I can agree. The countries had a summit this year and made a deal to end the war between them and even committed to a nuclear-free peninsula.



They also discussed and will be signing a Peace Treaty in the near future, although that's not in the article I provided.
It's sure that being under a dictatorship will also have it's inconvenience, sometimes, using threats to keep the citizens from rebelling against you and all but, when I went to the North of Korea, I realized that, is there even people against the leader there? I saw people smile, eat and seemed more at peace than in the South.

It can be considered an attack to the humans rights but, doesn't the other way around the same? Controlling medias, false information and all that.

That's totally false.
They could just be conditioned to it to the point of indifference and unawareness. It's analogous to US citizens who think they are completely free when they still have to show a passport before they can get out of their country. It's been said to them so many times that they're a free generation that they actually believe it.

Koreans could be subjected to a similar mind control. If they got out of their country and lived in the US for a while, they would get perspective other than what is fed to them and think differently about dictatorship.

Though at the end of the tunnel, it's subjective, a US citizen may think of Korea as a hell place or enclosed prison, while a Korean citizen would think of the United States as more of an open prison.
 
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