[Discussion] weakness of tailed beast bomb??

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Like i said, it doesn't matter if it's strong overall, you just need to pierce it no matter how small the area of damage maybe...you need to hit the centre, and seriously if kishi follows physics then it should be a big weakness...the very fact that TBB is a stabilised ball of chakra proves that it can be destabilised simply by disrupting it's centre. Remember that rasengan had to be kept stabilised by rotating it using the pseudo force(centrifugal force) concept?? Here it's the centre that makes it stable...chidori is fast, has a very powerful pierce force and same for susanoo arrow....so that's how it works i guess....

You'll remember when Naruto couldn't hold the focused energy it burst in his face. Same logic.
 

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Possible, but I would imagine it is actually slightly different....Minato created the rasengan after the observation of the TBB.

Rasengan is a rotating mass.....and is much like a concept of Rotation.

A simple method could be to stop the rotation of the bijuudama as the condensed chakra is still rotating when the plan to fire it is being made!

Regardless, your theory is plausible ^.^...though only a supped up Susanoo arrow or similarly high level tech is breaking it in that style. Chidori isn't going to cut it lol (lol no pun intended).
 

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Just seal it how Minato did. :D
 

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to those who have doubt i can explain it again......it doesn't matter of your technique is powerful, all we need to do is pierce it. TBB advances very quickly but it is not quicker than a powerful lightning offense technique.....let's say for e.g. Kirin, TBB coming in contact with kirin, will get pierced through itself and the chakra stability will be disrupted...in case of kyuubi bijuu dama chakra portions will spread out radially. And those who say that user needs to come in close range of TBB, well....susanoo arrow can go upto a long distance and lightning techs have enough speed to travel a long distance in a short time. that is why these techs are supposed to work WITHOUT the user coming in close proximity.
 

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Stabbing it with a chidori is funny. :D Saying Sasuke hit a tbb with a chidori. (Im assuming thats who your implying could stop it) He still has the little problem of it being a BOMB. Maybe is could pierce it.. but hes not going to survive a point blank tbb explosion. U_U
 

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space time jutsu to distort the tbb.....some mini black hole type of jutsu/gravity altering jutsu ...idk im just rambling.
 

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to those who have doubt i can explain it again......it doesn't matter of your technique is powerful, all we need to do is pierce it. TBB advances very quickly but it is not quicker than a powerful lightning offense technique.....let's say for e.g. Kirin, TBB coming in contact with kirin, will get pierced through itself and the chakra stability will be disrupted...in case of kyuubi bijuu dama chakra portions will spread out radially. And those who say that user needs to come in close range of TBB, well....susanoo arrow can go upto a long distance and lightning techs have enough speed to travel a long distance in a short time. that is why these techs are supposed to work WITHOUT the user coming in close proximity.

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You're on the right path of thinking. The dense chakra gives the ball its high mass which causes it to have a centre of gravity which allows the formation of a ball like Stars and Planets but throwing in a susanoo arrow wont do anything, it will either explode thats if you are fighting a Tailed beast. When fighting a Jinchuriki it would work but in a different way. A Jinchuriki needs to apply his and the beasts chakra in a certian ratio but throw in a susanoo arrow and it would disrupt the balance of its contents and the ball wont form.
 

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That's no possible, TBB takes lots of chakra, and then can be sunk into a ball is small is the rasengan (if shot as a beam), portraying how much it was compressed, making it harder to pierce through, and the fact that is made of intense chakra (Bijuu chakra is more intense then average shinobi chakra) making it even harder to pierce through. Up to now we can see chakra being extremely durable, if it is compressed to such a degree with a bijuu's intense chakra, I don't see any jutsu piercing through it, let alone chidori (which would be nice to see blow up in Sasuke's face while he is trying to reach the middle with his chidori). (Claiming chidori was worthy of standing up to a TBB or piercing it is nonsense.)

Now for someone to actually have the skill of using the bow to pierce right through the middle of the TBB, would take previous knowledge of it, extreme accuracy with his piercing jutsu, and it actually happening is extremely unlikely.
 

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I think u have a good point there frd. , but i dont think tbb is a big deal for lightning users or amu. Users (uchiha's)
for fue reasons .
We all know that lightning armer is strong enough to withstand a bijuu dama (3rakage is a good example) , in other word if lightning is strong enough to withstand a direct hit , then making a hole on it should cause way less lightning chakara , and that goes for sasunoo ( i think a skill like kirin could be strong enough to reach its center ) ... Sasunoo is made of complete black flames and it had been proven several times strong enough to block a bijuu dama , and i dont want to talk about ps , couse it manged to stop a tbb of a full powered kyubee (madara vs 1st hokage )...another thing that proven to be good def. Agnst tbb is wpons like yata mirror and madara's wpon (naruto bd was blocked/reflected with madara wpon is a good example )...
So , if were to put all what u sayed in one line , a tbb vs some1 who can use sasunoo arrow or strong lightning atks , i dont think if the lightning atk failed , sasunoo arrow will , becouse last time i checked , there is nthing that this arrow cannot go through , and i dought that tbb will have a resistance agnst black flames last time i checked ...
It might be challenging for lightning atks , but not black flames ...
For all haters and unlogical people who will reply after this ... Stop looking at 1 side of the coin . Try to look at the big picture ....
 

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Uh? what?
That sounds crazy IMO, the tailed beast bomb is just pure chakra, making it to lose it's balance would most likely create an huge explosion so I doubt that making an biju dama explode would do any good
 

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well it is a good theory, but if it is like a rasengan, then it doesnt have much of a center mass. We do know that the tbb is much much denser than the rasengan. If it is like the rasengan, then it is constantly rotateing. Also it has a chakra shell, to contain the swirling energy. Chidori, cannot penetrate a tbb, as a tbb is much denser, and a chidori is only capable of penetrateing a rasengan.

If a sussanoo arrow can indeed penetrate the chakra shell of a tbb, then it could technically stop the tbb, but not with intended results. What would happen, would be where the arrow penetrated, all the energy, would escape. So essentially imagine a tb beam, emiting from the tbb. (think of it like youcut a hole in a ballon. All the air escapes through that hole. The difference, would be more like makeing a hole in a compressed scubba tank or something like that.)

So essentially, if the sussanoo arrow, is shot at the right angle, then the tbb, would explode, in a way, that would not damage the sussanoo arrow user.(stopping the damage the tbb would do.)




simply put, the tbb, would not just crumble and fall apart, if shot by a arrow.
 

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susanoo arrow strikes at a long distance....so i believe that even if after being pierced by it, the bijuu dama explodes there only, then the user won't be affected...as long as the user doesn't reach in close proximity......the damage effect PER UNIT AREA will be reduced because now the bomb is getting disintegrated into small parts spreading everywhere and not concentrated on a particular target...
 
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