WE will never know..

[Lightbringer]

The 4th data book lists every Kage and even names them, but there's nothing on the 3rd Mizukage :l
Fun facts: the 4th Kazekage is named Rasa
The 3rd Raikage is also named A
The 2nd Mizukage is named Gengetsu Hozuki

Yeah I know

Actually all the Raikage are named A lol

I'm guessing it's a name that is passed down to the new Raikage. So Darui is probably now known as A.

 

[BasedProphet]

they were entrusted to protect the village so the senju could tell them what to do by reporting to them and waiting for orders or whatever. While they were "trusted to do a job" the fact EVERYONE didnt play a part in protection (similar to how after they were gone) was the problem

 

[Xāvî1]

We will never know the motives behind the Uchiha coup now.... unless the anime covers it through fillers. Kind of disappointed, i was hoping Kishimoto would atleast clear up the Uchiha revolution mess before ending it.


Notice that all the information we have regarding it is from people who were kids or just against the uchiha or didn't know anything inside the uchiha:

- Itachi: Never mentions why Uchiha were doing it, only states why they were killed

- Danzo: Never states that they f*cked up with the uchiha.. but states they were killed to protect the village or w.e

- Hiruzen: Had hardly any grasp on the situation

- Shisui: Notice he tried to change Danzo, and not the uchiha leaders =p


We will never know, why the great man known as Fugaku uchiha, would raise his voice against the corruption of geezers

I will explain it ~ bcos when obito attacked the village with kurama, fugaku was in charge of the police force. And i also remember itachi saying where is father and mother at this time. We all know uchiha's can control bijjus using sharigan. So the konoha higher ups started suspecting the uchihas which lead to betrayal and ultimately the genocide of the uchiha clan!

& there were filler episodes regarding this!

 

[BasedProphet]

there was distrust before that already - we can assume

1) hashirama was already dead at the point fugaku was in charge (assumed because he took over for madara) so we have to assume they were pissed off they were the police of the village and had to report to uppers....which is tobirama- a senju...
2) Fugaku was the one upset by how thy were treated by the uppers anyways- he knew they were suspected of uprising and thought the village would kill them off first. Tobirama always thought they would and the uchiha insisted they wouldn't. They thought that the village would kill them, so they planned to attack the village.
4) Naruto and sasuke are born
5) the nine tails is controlled by a Sharingan user - at this point tobirama died saving his team, and now we have hokage 3 and 4 (plot hole? 3 isnt dead yet why move on???) as far as the village is aware- ALL OF THE UCHIHA ARE IN THE VILLAGE. the uchiha are very against anyone outside the mainframe of Uchiha having eyes- (same with the hyuga who danzo said at the gokage summit would have been killed already if he knew [dont remember his name] had a byakugan)--------- This is to be assumed the uppers thought it happened from within the village.
6) tensions build over the years but things are relatively quiet- it was never explained why the uchiha weren't killed directly after, and there is a HUGE GAP OF TIME between the attacks and the uchiha massacre that wasn't even talked about
7) itachi- (who reported to danzo) told them of an uprising which confirmed it, so itachi killed all of them being the most powerful user at that time, nobody could stop him.


These may be out of order, but i tried to put them slightly in order.... it's a cycle of hatred. the uchiha actually hadn't done anything wrong but tobirama assumed they were messed up in the head already anyways, so they couldnt be trusted to begin with.....


-------side question- if the uchiha and the senju joined together, and the uchiha had a section of town, why are tobi and hashi the only "real" senju left

 

[KingHashirama]

So most of your post is just crying about majority opinion. I really couldn't care less about your opinion on how people like me ruined DBZ and that it's sickening. I know we're on a Naruto forum, but get a f*cking life, my friend.

Back to Danzō, I don't consider him a villain. He is an antagonist, but he's no villain. A subjective term in any case.
Cue the whole "OH SO MADARA blah blah DANZŌ IS MADARA blah blah AND MADARA IS A VILLAIN blah blah"
Two different characters. Both were extremists who wanted peace, that's about where their similarities end. I don't consider Madara a true villain either. Just a psychotic, sado-masochistic, much more boring version of Danzō. But you've probably never had a thought like that because you only think in black and white.

PS: That's good. And he's right. It literally isn't your own power. Too bad that doesn't stop anyone from taking other people's' powers and using them for themselves :]

Only issue, i don't give a f*ck if people think its canon or not..... Thats why you will never hear me make the excuse "oh its not canon".. because i don't care... No clue why think i actually care... I just don't like people coming with the retarded ass excuse of "ohh its not canon , because kishimoto didn't explain it". Because the whole uchiha thing, that happened in the fillers has many connections the manga also. Why tell me to get a life, when you were the one defending Danzo's actions and truning the whole around on me.. while i was just countering your point?

If you don't consider Danzo a villain, then don't consider Madara a villain. Don't consider any of them as villains. "2 different characters".. that is a bad excuse. What they did is initially the saame, however, Madara simply didn't try to sneak around like a fox..... He was more blunt. Danzo wanted to get rid of Hiruzen.. and he was going about it the "sly fox way".

"only think black and white".. no actually i just see for what it is. I don't believe in this notion of "Black and white".... no clue why people bring it up, when Danzo and Itachi, both have had redemption points in their storyline. Redemption points only exist, so they can redeem themselves for the "good".

 

[HiddenSound]

Only issue, i don't give a f*ck if people think its canon or not..... Thats why you will never hear me make the excuse "oh its not canon".. because i don't care... No clue why think i actually care... I just don't like people coming with the retarded ass excuse of "ohh its not canon , because kishimoto didn't explain it". Because the whole uchiha thing, that happened in the fillers has many connections the manga also. Why tell me to get a life, when you were the one defending Danzo's actions and truning the whole around on me.. while i was just countering your point?

If you don't consider Danzo a villain, then don't consider Madara a villain. Don't consider any of them as villains. "2 different characters".. that is a bad excuse. What they did is initially the saame, however, Madara simply didn't try to sneak around like a fox..... He was more blunt. Danzo wanted to get rid of Hiruzen.. and he was going about it the "sly fox way".

"only think black and white".. no actually i just see for what it is. I don't believe in this notion of "Black and white".... no clue why people bring it up, when Danzo and Itachi, both have had redemption points in their storyline. Redemption points only exist, so they can redeem themselves for the "good".

Kk.

@first bold, I blatantly said I didn't.
@second bold, nice fan fiction.

And the last paragraph, you think Danzō and Itachi were eeeviiiil. And I don't care.
This argument will keep repeating as it always does. Stopped caring.

 

[KingHashirama]

Kk.

@first bold, I blatantly said I didn't.
@second bold, nice fan fiction.

And the last paragraph, you think Danzō and Itachi were eeeviiiil. And I don't care.
This argument will keep repeating as it always does. Stopped caring.

Allied himself with Hanzo (enemy of the leaf) so hanzo can help him become Hokage.... Yes clearly he wasn't trying to take over Hiruzen..

Yes, they were immoral.. thats all evil is.