[Discussion] We will ever travel to another universe?

[Fountain]

We will most likely wipe ourselves out long before we get to that kinda tech.

Pretty much this.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Another place/time in spacetime continuum: possibly
Another universe: Hell Naw!

Physics and Maths contradict that. Travel and "another universe" are mutually exclusive mathematically.

 

[HashiraMadara]

You're asking us a question based on an assumption and one where we can only extrapolate based on our understanding of physics at this time.

I thought that they were parallel as in our universe can never meet. If it refers to our universe ending and another universe being next to it, then no, it would be impossible even at the speed of light, and it's scientifically proven we can never travel that fast.

There is something called quantum entanglement in physics:
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Even if you were at the "end" of the universe with one of the paired "entangled" particles. If a disturbance happens to one's orbit, it directly affects the other meaning information speed >>>>> Light Speed.


Secondly:
since by General Theory of Relativity: Spacetime continuum is dynamic it doesn't require gigantic speeds to travel mathematically, a bent big enough to connect to coordinates and a rapture to connect the 2 can enable a travelling short cut, hence the "aspired worm hole".

 

[King Richard]

If humanity is to set sail to another universe, they might need help from someone beyond this world.

 

[Nobel]

"Another Universe",. Do you mean, travelling towards star strek universe, Dr.Who, marvel, DC and so on?

Travelling outside this galaxy is pretty questionable itself so you might consider changing the topic, if you want to make it more realistic. But everything that resides within this universe, is fit and only tasked to exist in this infinity. If a human were to take a step "outside", then consider that human to be permanently erased from history.

There is something called quantum entanglement in physics:
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Even if you were at the "end" of the universe with one of the paired "entangled" particles. If a disturbance happens to one's orbit, it directly affects the other meaning information speed >>>>> Light Speed.


Secondly:
since by General Theory of Relativity: Spacetime continuum is dynamic it doesn't require gigantic speeds to travel mathematically, a bent big enough to connect to coordinates and a rapture to connect the 2 can enable a travelling short cut, hence the "aspired worm hole".

If tachyons are ought to be proven in a far out future, then consider "speed" to be meaningless from that point forward. It's a FTL particle that get's faster depending on the occasional energy loss, can't get more acasuality than that.

 

[Jinrou]

I think it's highly impossible tbh...

However, I have read theories that the sucking of matter, light, planets and so on by a black hole causes an explosion(big bang) in itself and creating a whole universe within itself.. meaning our universe could be inside a black hole right now..
If this is true, then finding a way to avoid the extreme forces of a black hole might be one way to travel to a whole new universe..but I honestly don't see that happening anytime soon either if light itself can't escape it's forces.

 

[HashiraMadara]

"Another Universe",. Do you mean, travelling towards star strek universe, Dr.Who, marvel, DC and so on?

Travelling outside this galaxy is pretty questionable itself so you might consider changing the topic, if you want to make it more realistic. But everything that resides within this universe, is fit and only tasked to exist in this infinity. If a human were to take a step "outside", then consider that human to be permanently erased from history.



If tachyons are ought to be proven in a far out future, then consider "speed" to be meaningless from that point forward. It's a FTL particle that get's faster depending on the occasional energy loss, can't get more acasuality than that.

You don't need a tachyons' existence if you can bend the fabric of spacetime because you travel between at least(since we have no idea how many dimensions our universe has) 2 points instantaneously.

Since tachyon needs speed it's still insufficient. Yet a worm not only directs you to a different point in space it also takes you to a different time too

 

[Marin]

There is something called quantum entanglement in physics:
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Even if you were at the "end" of the universe with one of the paired "entangled" particles. If a disturbance happens to one's orbit, it directly affects the other meaning information speed >>>>> Light Speed.


Secondly:
since by General Theory of Relativity: Spacetime continuum is dynamic it doesn't require gigantic speeds to travel mathematically, a bent big enough to connect to coordinates and a rapture to connect the 2 can enable a travelling short cut, hence the "aspired worm hole".

Didn't think you'd subscribe to the "something faster than light" deal. I always found that a bit of a stretch, tho if it is correct it gives good support to Doyle's philosophy:

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[HashiraMadara]

I think it's highly impossible tbh...

However, I have read theories that the sucking of matter, light, planets and so on by a black hole causes an explosion(big bang) in itself and creating a whole universe within itself.. meaning our universe could be inside a black hole right now..
If this is true, then finding a way to avoid the extreme forces of a black hole might be one way to travel to a whole new universe..but I honestly don't see that happening anytime soon either if light itself can't escape it's forces.

I call that pseudo science since mathematics don't exist "inside" a black hole :|

"inside" a black hole you have equations with root(double negative numbers), division by 0 and a volume < 0 which is meaningless in normal mathematics.

So whatever happens there can never be a "theory" they are thoughts or imaginations

 

[HashiraMadara]

Didn't think you'd subscribe to the "something faster than light" deal. I always found that a bit of a stretch, tho if it is correct it gives good support to Doyle's philosophy:

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nah information is intangible at least so C remains the fastest there is in the universe.

WHY YOU ALWAYS INCLUDE PHILOSOPHY IN EVERYTHING XDXDXDXD

 

[Marin]

nah information is intangible at least so C remains the fastest there is in the universe.

But didn't you just say information travels faster?

WHY YOU ALWAYS INCLUDE PHILOSOPHY IN EVERYTHING XDXDXDXD

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[HashiraMadara]

But didn't you just say information travels faster?

Welcome to Physics.
momentum = mass*velocity
P = MV
light has a momentum but light is massless :|

basically information is gazillion times faster than light but since information is not substantial we don't regard it. You can't calculate a mass, energy or speed of information

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[Marin]

Welcome to Physics.
momentum = mass*velocity
P = MV
light has a momentum but light is massless :|

basically information is gazillion times faster than light but since information is not substantial we don't regard it. You can't calculate a mass, energy or speed of information

But if you can't calculate it how did you figure out it was a gazillion times faster? :sdo:

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[HashiraMadara]

But if you can't calculate it how did you figure out it was a gazillion times faster? :sdo:

Information:

"facts provided or learned about something or someone."

Information is like a wave, You can't say "I am holding a wave" it doesn't substantially exist. It can be transmitted at impeccable speeds but itself has no known speed as it is imaginary.


e.g "you see a coming stampede, sound is heard then, rumbling vibrations are felt". Sight was the fastest transmitter of information this example as it moved at speed of light.

In Quantum entanglement, information is always faster than speed of light(as it happens immediately) meaning something/mechanism transmits it that faster but we have no idea what it is.

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[Jinrou]

I call that pseudo science since mathematics don't exist "inside" a black hole :|

"inside" a black hole you have equations with root(double negative numbers), division by 0 and a volume < 0 which is meaningless in normal mathematics.

So whatever happens there can never be a "theory" they are thoughts or imaginations

Pseudo Science? Does this mean you consider theoretical physics Pseudo science too?
Thoughts or imaginations? How do you define a theory exactly?

 

[HashiraMadara]

Pseudo Science? Does this mean you consider theoretical physics Pseudo science too?
Thoughts or imaginations? How do you define a theory exactly?

Oh my word, pseudo science = non mathematically supportable hypothesis that people build theories upon. e.g Time travelling is a legit hypothesis, Killing your grandmas in the past etc that's pseudo science

 

[Jinrou]

Oh my word, pseudo science = non mathematically supportable hypothesis that people build theories upon. e.g Time travelling is a legit hypothesis, Killing your grandmas in the past etc that's pseudo science

lol..sorry man..but how exactly does killing a grandma fall under pseudo science if time travelling is a legit hypothesis to you?

 

[Marin]

lol..sorry man..but how exactly does killing a grandma fall under pseudo science if time travelling is a legit hypothesis to you?

Maybe he only thinks time travelling into future is possible but not the past. (If we're gonna talk nonsense, on relativity if you can go fast enough time will be slower for you while it goes faster for everyone standing still relative to you. Kinda like Interstellar when they age differently on a different part of the universe.)