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defenitly yes, no existence is better then an existence of suffering. besides, we are allowed to choose right? free will an all? can i choose to delete my existence and not exist? or am i just going to be reborn to this world or go to heaven or hell? i ask god give me an option to delete my existence and every feeling good or bad and i will take it immediately.


god decided we are no worthy of unending happiness. what give him the right to choose for us? fine ok what you said if we take away what makes others happy then those people are bad and should suffer and be punished. but i never killed or stole or raped or beaten anyone. why should i suffer?

I think how you said you wish that you had an option not to exist is the ultimate evolution in life. The ability to commit suicide. You can choose that option but you then cannot experience heaven because there is no love in killing yourself. As long as you die trying to protect the ones you love then your life has great meaning.
 

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defenitly yes, no existence is better then an existence of suffering. besides, we are allowed to choose right? free will an all? can i choose to delete my existence and not exist? or am i just going to be reborn to this world or go to heaven or hell? i ask god give me an option to delete my existence and every feeling good or bad and i will take it immediately.



god decided we are no worthy of unending happiness. what give him the right to choose for us? fine ok what you said if we take away what makes others happy then those people are bad and should suffer and be punished. but i never killed or stole or raped or beaten anyone. why should i suffer?

If you love a girl who does not love you back is it fair to be given what you want to make you happy when she is not happy with you? This is just one example. There are ways all of your desires can take away from other peoples if you do not act on them appropriately.
 

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Yeah, yeah, I know. It's a long-shot that God will create a world just for me, but it's possible and I will always hope for it.
Haha just stop, dude. If you knew me , you would understand why that will never, and I mean never be my life. If I ever find myself living the same lifestyle as most of the United States' population, I would go insane. I'm huge on individuaity, greatness, and distingtion (incorrectly spelled, I know).
I desire achievements, achievements, and more achievements. I can never have a significant other for two reasons: there will never be room for her in my life and I plan to make money mostly to give it to people I consider to be good. I hardly give any sh*ts about my own happiness.
At least you care about other people but stopthinking about them for a second because eventually theyll stop thinking about you. Just think on how it would feel to work just for your loved ones and not for passing strangers. For what good does a man toil under the sun if his riches will be passeddown to someone else? And who knows wether that person will be wise or a fool. A man can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in his work
 

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Yeah, yeah, I know. It's a long-shot that God will create a world just for me, but it's possible and I will always hope for it.
Haha just stop, dude. If you knew me , you would understand why that will never, and I mean never be my life. If I ever find myself living the same lifestyle as most of the United States' population, I would go insane. I'm huge on individuaity, greatness, and distingtion (incorrectly spelled, I know).
I desire achievements, achievements, and more achievements. I can never have a significant other for two reasons: there will never be room for her in my life and I plan to make money mostly to give it to people I consider to be good. I hardly give any sh*ts about my own happiness.
At least you care about other people but stopthinking about them for a second because eventually theyll stop thinking about you. Just think on how it would feel to work just for your loved ones and not for passing strangers. For what good does a man toil under the sun if his riches will be passeddown to someone else? And who knows wether that person will be wise or a fool. A man can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in his work
 

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This is where our age difference shows! I have not learned enough about world religions In my 18 years although I am familiar with the wheel of samsara! I would like to believe that Both Buddhism and Catholicism could be combined somehow. Like the best of both religions.

Yes, coincidentally Rikūdo Sennin is a Boddhisatva, an enlightened being who conquered the Six Realms of Samsara, and in turn desires to free others from it which is the Wheel of Suffering. *_*
 

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I think how you said you wish that you had an option not to exist is the ultimate evolution in life. The ability to commit suicide. You can choose that option but you then cannot experience heaven because there is no love in killing yourself. As long as you die trying to protect the ones you love then your life has great meaning.

i would kill myself right now i was certain there is no existence after that. but i can't be certain, i might go to hell and i don't want that. the only reason i am not killing myself is because it might be worse somewhere else, even though i really want to i can't because god threatens me with more suffering and mroe pain.

if i really had free will i would be able to kill myself and stop existing without being afraid god will somehow punish me.

If you love a girl who does not love you back is it fair to be given what you want to make you happy when she is not happy with you? This is just one example. There are ways all of your desires can take away from other peoples if you do not act on them appropriately.

if it was my choice i would choose to not love the girl, i would choose to only feel love when it can be fulfilled (like with a girl who loves me back). but i can't choose that, i have to sit and suffer and be alone because god made me love the girl but he didn't made the girl love me back. where is the justice in making me feel in love and to suffer for that feeling that I DID NOT CHOOSE AND CAN'T CHANGE, because that is the will of god.
 
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defenitly yes, no existence is better then an existence of suffering. besides, we are allowed to choose right? free will an all? can i choose to delete my existence and not exist? or am i just going to be reborn to this world or go to heaven or hell? i ask god give me an option to delete my existence and every feeling good or bad and i will take it immediately.



god decided we are no worthy of unending happiness. what give him the right to choose for us? fine ok what you said if we take away what makes others happy then those people are bad and should suffer and be punished. but i never killed or stole or raped or beaten anyone. why should i suffer?

killing yourself means you are unsatisfied,and no faith,in GOD and his blessing thats why you want to kill yourself
GOD is merciful,and he blesses all GOD even blessed satan(an immortal life)
the biggest thing he blessed us in our life is Our free will
use free will for good thngs not for bad like satan

see GOD created uncountable thing,and everything is like a coin,it has bright side and dark side
its upto us,that which side we want to stay in
 

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i would kill myself right now i was certain there is no existence after that. but i can't be certain, i might go to hell and i don't want that. the only reason i am not killing myself is because it might be worse somewhere else, even though i really want to i can't because god threatens me with more suffering and mroe pain.

if i really had free will i would be able to kill myself and stop existing without being afraid god will somehow punish me.

You should never commit suicide nobody should. It is much better to find love :) Somebody loves you.
[video=youtube;RjIIVfzfD3o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjIIVfzfD3o[/video]
 

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yes i am
oh and ok i got the meaning now,but according to our faith,the whole earth will be ruled by MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS combined
it is also stated that Jesus will ask u guyz to convert to ISLAM(i dont wanna talk about converting,bcoz,it may start flame)

No its ok lets not go down that road lol

Well if Jesus Christ himself descends heaven and asks me to convert to Islam then I will kneel before him and say

"Thou will be done"
 

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You should never commit suicide nobody should. It is much better to find love :) Somebody loves you.

well i do want to commit suicide. and it's because of god. god made me suffer to the point of wishing to commit suicide.
 

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i would kill myself right now i was certain there is no existence after that. but i can't be certain, i might go to hell and i don't want that. the only reason i am not killing myself is because it might be worse somewhere else, even though i really want to i can't because god threatens me with more suffering and mroe pain.

if i really had free will i would be able to kill myself and stop existing without being afraid god will somehow punish me.



if it was my choice i would choose to not love the girl, i would choose to only feel love when it can be fulfilled (like with a girl who loves me back). but i can't choose that, i have to sit and suffer and be alone because god made me love the girl but he didn't made the girl love me back. where is the justice in making me feel in love and to suffer for that feeling that I DID NOT CHOOSE AND CAN'T CHANGE, because that is the will of god.

well thats why GOD made fear,
you wanna go androids,u wont feel fear

fear is what makes you near GOD,fear him and be a better man,and accept what GOD says

accepting fear isnt a shame,its braveness
 

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i would kill myself right now i was certain there is no existence after that. but i can't be certain, i might go to hell and i don't want that. the only reason i am not killing myself is because it might be worse somewhere else, even though i really want to i can't because god threatens me with more suffering and mroe pain.

if i really had free will i would be able to kill myself and stop existing without being afraid god will somehow punish me..

But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovered Country, from whose bourn
No Traveller returns, Puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have,
Than fly to others that we know not of.
Thus Conscience does make Cowards of us all,
And thus the Native hue of Resolution
Is sicklied o'er, with the pale cast of Thought,
And enterprises of great pitch and moment,
With this regard their Currents turn awry,
And lose the name of Action.
 

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i would kill myself right now i was certain there is no existence after that. but i can't be certain, i might go to hell and i don't want that. the only reason i am not killing myself is because it might be worse somewhere else, even though i really want to i can't because god threatens me with more suffering and mroe pain.

if i really had free will i would be able to kill myself and stop existing without being afraid god will somehow punish me.



if it was my choice i would choose to not love the girl, i would choose to only feel love when it can be fulfilled (like with a girl who loves me back). but i can't choose that, i have to sit and suffer and be alone because god made me love the girl but he didn't made the girl love me back. where is the justice in making me feel in love and to suffer for that feeling that I DID NOT CHOOSE AND CAN'T CHANGE, because that is the will of god.

Because that person is out there! You just have to either be patient or notice them already in your life. Either way you will find them but why should God just drop them in your lap? What purpose is there in gratification you have not earned?
 

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But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovered Country, from whose bourn
No Traveller returns, Puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have,
Than fly to others that we know not of.
Thus Conscience does make Cowards of us all,
And thus the Native hue of Resolution
Is sicklied o'er, with the pale cast of Thought,
And enterprises of great pitch and moment,
With this regard their Currents turn awry,
And lose the name of Action.

Nature's first green is gold
her hardest hue to hold
her early leaf's a flower
but only so an hour
then leaf subsides to leaf
so eden sank to grief
so dawn goes down to day
nothing gold can stay
-Robert Frost

Your poem is much better then mine at providing an example for the predicament of suicide!
Being an immortal android would even take away this option
 

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No its ok lets not go down that road lol

Well if Jesus Christ himself descends heaven and asks me to convert to Islam then I will kneel before him and say

"Thou will be done"
well i wont force my faith and opinion on you that Jesus A.S will say that
but my faith makes me believe that Jesus A.S will say that and i would be more happier to see you(am also happy to see you now)
 

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I love everything you post and I feel the same way sometimes that God created this whole world so I could have fun and be happy I think that everyone is special in their own way. The only thing I urge you do to is forget about the money! Success is not measured by dollars. Enjoy writing but find time to have a wife and children so your legacy can live on :)

I agree. My mom is a huge Christian, and she tells me that God wants us to enjoy ourselves--in healthy and innocent ways. It's just that as far as I remember, I have never been a happy person. Therefore, I have no desire to ever be. Don't pity me though. My unhappiness really has no explanation. It's just how I am.
About the money, I wish to make a lot of it just so that I can award good people with it. My hatred of people I consider trash fuels my urge for success. I NEED good people to know that they're appreciated. They're getting really rare nowadays thanks to the surplus of trash. Don't get me wrong, this world has always had rotten human beings, but even more so now imo. As for myself, I will spoil myself with coffee, beer, and food.
 

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Because that person is out there! You just have to either be patient or notice them already in your life. Either way you will find them but why should God just drop them in your lap? What purpose is there in gratification you have not earned?

The example I like to use is a real life one. If God made us in God's own image then we will try to imitate God eventually. Look at video games. What is the one thing many people do "CHEAT CODES" but this ruins the game because it takes away the time you would've spent unlocking all the cool things. Drugs are the cheat codes of life.Fake love.
 

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If someone offered me the ability to not age and the ability to resist disease I would take it. :cool:

I'm not into being an android.
 

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Because that person is out there! You just have to either be patient or notice them already in your life. Either way you will find them but why should God just drop them in your lap? What purpose is there in gratification you have not earned?

what purpose is there in suffering i did not deserve? why should i be patient? because god want me to? i don't want to be patient.

besides you are all missing the point, having a girlfriend or *** is not my problem. the suffering is more real then that. god tortured me and caused me pain and you tell me i need to be strong and believe in him and in the end he will give me good stuff? when did he ever proved himself to me? all god did to me was bring pain and suffering and ask me to be patient. **** him, he doesn't deserve to be worshiped.
 

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I agree. My mom is a huge Christian, and she tells me that God wants us to enjoy ourselves--in healthy and innocent ways. It's just that as far as I remember, I have never been a happy person. Therefore, I have no desire to ever be. Don't pity me though. My unhappiness really has no explanation. It's just how I am.
About the money, I wish to make a lot of it just so that I can award good people with it. My hatred of people I consider trash fuels my urge for success. I NEED good people to know that they're appreciated. They're getting really rare nowadays thanks to the surplus of trash. Don't get me wrong, this world has always had rotten human beings, but even more so now imo. As for myself, I will spoil myself with coffee, beer, and food.

I always feel the same way! I want to become very rich so I can give back to deserving people and help others' get their careers started! I just want you to have relationships with others not only yourself even if you don't find a sexual relationship don't neglect others
 
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