Ways to defeat Itachi with his hype intact

[KCMNaruto]

Ok guys please no trolling or hating as this thread takes Itachi with all hype and feats he has recieved.

NO Susanoo Itachi ​

1) blitzing speed which would prevent itachi from reacting to you so no susanoo which needed for yata and totsuka to manifest. Also speed which could prevent you from making eye contact as his genjutsu especially tsukyiomi with time manipulation leaves you in devasted mind state while even if you can continue Itachi would have weapons already ready.

Susanoo Itachi ​

2) if you encounter itachi protected by susanoo(no spiritual weapons) then you need blitzing speed along with powerfull piercing attack or not charging nuke to kill him before weapons are out.

Yata & Totsuka & Susanoo Itachi ​

3) if you encounter Itachi protected by spiritual weapons susanoo then you need to force him to keep using at least v2 susanoo while you can not get in his reach. Blitzing speed and supperior reaction time is must to not get totsuka pierced. Flying speed would be very usefull but even without it in open field character could keep dodging which either requires knowlegde or having a lot of luck to not come in contact with it while throwing nuke at him from distance. All methods rely on wearing down Itachi.
Once he can not enter complete susanoo you can nuke him or strike but still avoid eye contact.


FOOD FOR THOUGHTS:

About perfect condition experienced ms itachi it would require big stamina for character and great reflex to wear down Itachi.

Ems Itachi with his hype would be virtually invincible.
Kaguya being special case using portal to shoot ashbone from behind susanoo should work unless yata work on it own even if itach didnt know what hit him.

Of course you may win by poisoning him beforehand or drugging him before battle or steal weapons but good luck with that that cheating.

Wow after rereading my post I am terrified how many conditions one has to meet to beat Lord Itachi Uchiha.
God bless that he didnt get ems or higher but then he wouldnt be Itachi anymore, right ?

Summary:​

• against no sussano Itachi: blitzing speed and kunai(sometging enough to mortally wound at least
• against susanoo itachi: blitzing speed or speedsupperior reflexes along with great stamina, nuke/powerfull attack to destroy susanoo to win
• against spiritual weapons itachi susanoo: blitzing speed, supperior reflexes, great stamina, long range very powerfull atack to force him to keep using susanoo + either huge lack or knowledge to avoid contaxt with totsuka + be yourself.
• only Itachi weakness: weak stamina and little to no mobility with susanoo

Discuss

AIM OF THIS THREAD:

CREATE/IMAGE IN YOUR MIND FANFIC CHARACTER WITHIN NARUTO universe RULES COMBINING ALL OF THESE CONDITIONS I STATED and debate whether they would would work or no

 

[6thHokage]

Itachi can't be defeated.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Interesting.

 

[-immortal-]

This is absolute nonsense.

 

[LoZelda101]

1. They would never see or sense his genjutsu coming. He still has 3T precog so can predict where they will come from and look to trap them in gen.

2. They'll still be forced to limit their vision. Ie: susanoo arm/sword sweeps.

3. Same as above. Countering gen will require to limit their focus on itachi, sensing can work but totsuka isn't chakra so it can't be sensed and FTG flanks are null to susanoo users. Sage mode and maybe CT or 8gates is needed to stand a chance against solo king

 

[Trúth]

When you make your summary as long as your thread chances are no one is going to read that either.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Itachi can't be defeated.

"The actions speak louder to me the words" - Kurama
Prove me wrong then you have point.

Interesting.

Thanks i hope it can be good debate.

This is absolute nonsense.

Dare to prove me wrong ? If not concession accepted.

1. They would never see or sense his genjutsu coming. He still has 3T precog so can predict where they will come from and look to trap them in gen.

2. They'll still be forced to limit their vision. Ie: susanoo arm/sword sweeps.

3. Same as above. Countering gen will require to limit their focus on itachi, sensing can work but totsuka isn't chakra so it can't be sensed and FTG flanks are null to susanoo users. Sage mode and maybe CT or 8gates is needed to stand a chance against solo king

Well I thought avoiding eye contact would be obcious. I guess I assumed blitzing speed would cover that factor.

Also isnt genjutsu of sharingan aware reaction of user. I doubt it is automatic so what if you can strike him before sharingan eye can register you aka Kakashi failed to see Naruto bm blitz?

Also i didnt mention any character did I ? Just conditions theoretical character has to meet to dream beating Itachi.

If we add genjutsu resistance or avoiding eye contact to each scenario then wouldnt it work ? Please no short answer or just no answer. I hope to see reasons.

 

[true enigma]

Itachi can't be defeated.

This^^

/thread

Spoiler

Deal with it:bdpf:

 

[KCMNaruto]

When you make your summary as long as your thread chances are no one is going to read that either.

Oh sorry buddy. I am phone right now so I can rearrange it bbut will do tommorow. Can you take your time and read it ? I appreciate and value your opinion. Try to be objective also no trolling. I am sure it was positive Itachi thread so hope it would be good debate

 

[6thHokage]

"The actions speak louder to me the words" - Kurama
Prove me wrong then you have point.



Thanks i hope it can be good debate.



Dare to prove me wrong ? If not concession accepted.



Well I thought avoiding eye contact would be obcious. I guess I assumed blitzing speed would cover that factor.

Also isnt genjutsu of sharingan aware reaction of user. I doubt it is automatic so what if you can strike him before sharingan eye can register you aka Kakashi failed to see Naruto bm blitz?

Also i didnt mention any character did I ? Just conditions theoretical character has to meet to dream beating Itachi.

If we add genjutsu resistance or avoiding eye contact to each scenario then wouldnt it work ? Please no short answer or just no answer. I hope to see reasons.

Itachi is undefeated. Show me a manga panel of him losing a fight.

 

[KCMNaruto]

This^^

/thread

Spoiler

Deal with it:bdpf:

Trolls have no voice or right to say. Sorry but only actions reach me. Words are pointless like that

 

[KCMNaruto]

Itachi is undefeated. Show me a manga panel of him losing a fight.

Did I mention character ? Nope I just created conditions If BIG IF some character meet all of them he can beat Itachi. Is that really hard to read without bias...

 

[-immortal-]

"The actions speak louder to me the words" - Kurama
Prove me wrong then you have point.



Thanks i hope it can be good debate.



Dare to prove me wrong ? If not concession accepted.



Well I thought avoiding eye contact would be obcious. I guess I assumed blitzing speed would cover that factor.

Also isnt genjutsu of sharingan aware reaction of user. I doubt it is automatic so what if you can strike him before sharingan eye can register you aka Kakashi failed to see Naruto bm blitz?

Also i didnt mention any character did I ? Just conditions theoretical character has to meet to dream beating Itachi.

If we add genjutsu resistance or avoiding eye contact to each scenario then wouldnt it work ? Please no short answer or just no answer. I hope to see reasons.

Why should i prove you wrong?
You have 0 mangafacts to begin with so idc.

 

[SenseiSama]

The only way he can be defeated is if he lets himself get defeated. The only one capable of stopping him is someone with Hagoromo's power.

 

[JStar King]

Itachi can't be defeated.

Shisui was the only one who could beat him fair and square. Plus, he had better Genjutsu range.

On the other hand, you also have Muu, who Itachi has no chance of defeating, because he can turn invisible. Only a sensor type ninja can beat him.

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[KCMNaruto]

Why should i prove you wrong?
You have 0 mangafacts to begin with so idc.

Because I wrote what conditions one has to meet to beat Itachi abd yes it comes along with manga although all these conditions were never meet by ant charactee as we have seen. Still no shown!=couldnt work

I can accept your concession.

 

[LoZelda101]

"The actions speak louder to me the words" - Kurama
Prove me wrong then you have point.



Thanks i hope it can be good debate.



Dare to prove me wrong ? If not concession accepted.



Well I thought avoiding eye contact would be obcious. I guess I assumed blitzing speed would cover that factor.

Also isnt genjutsu of sharingan aware reaction of user. I doubt it is automatic so what if you can strike him before sharingan eye can register you aka Kakashi failed to see Naruto bm blitz?

Also i didnt mention any character did I ? Just conditions theoretical character has to meet to dream beating Itachi.

If we add genjutsu resistance or avoiding eye contact to each scenario then wouldnt it work ? Please no short answer or just no answer. I hope to see reasons.

Nope. Itachi has put ninjas in genjutsu without looking at his eyes and were even aware of how to counter it. Find a way to counter gen without limiting your effectiveness in battle and only then do you stand a chance against itachi. If you limit your vision you are vulnerable to totsuka, if go all out focus on itachi you are vulnerable to genjutsu. It's a lose lose situation for majority of the NV

Sagemode perception is needed, it's the anti uchiha ability like kabuto stated

 

[KCMNaruto]

The only way he can be defeated is if he lets himself get defeated. The only one capable of stopping him is someone with Hagoromo's power.

No need to bring any character from manga just imagine character meeting these conditions I stated and debate if the would be enough to beat Itachi. Simple as that.

Shisui was the only one who could beat him fair and square. Plus, he had better Genjutsu range.

On the other hand, you also have Muu, who Itachi has no chance of defeating, because he can turn invisible. Only a sensor type ninja can beat him.

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Thanks for input but again this is not vs against Itachi just see above and act according to it

 

[Lelouch Vii Britannia]

There is no way at all to defeat the solo king .

 

[KCMNaruto]

Nope. Itachi has put ninjas in genjutsu without looking at his eyes and were even aware of how to counter it. Find a way to counter gen without limiting your effectiveness in battle and only then do you stand a chance against itachi. If you limit your vision you are vulnerable to totsuka, if go all out focus on itachi you are vulnerable to genjutsu. It's a lose lose situation for majority of the NV

Correct but if it is self aware process I mean genjutsu then in theory if you would move faster then sharingan eye would react it would do it

Also no genjutsu except tsukyiomi from Itachi is threat here just all of them would be used as distractions or to buy time getting full susanoo or am I wrong ?