Water Nature Release Is The WORST OUT OF THE 5 IN THE NARUTO UNIVERSE

[lol99]

I have to disagree with you. According to the manga when Edo-Madara's first encountered the allied forces, it took a whole row of Water-based ninjas to even neutralize his fire based jutsu. & to bring more evidence of this, look at the warm up battle with Itachi vs Kisame. How in the world did Itachi's fire neutralize Kisame's Water? I can't answer that but it did happen.

you are talking about fodders

mei single handedly countered madara's katons

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[Night Smoke]

No shit, what do you expect when Madara pulls out fire? Tobirama destroyed Hiruzen's mountain with his water, and blocked his fire technique with no problem.

You underrestimate water way to much

Lol so ive proved you wrong.

& just to remind you, Tobirama still lost and got his soul sealed. During that battle it was almost like Hashirama was doing everything while Tobirama cherry picked. So much for water. (PS: Im not a 2nd Hokage hater)

 

[-Shiro-]

Totally disagree.

Water beasts out both fire and earth, if you're an skilled water user you can form your water to an beam and basically cut everything around you (just like Sasori did).

I will say it is one of the best

true i mean sassori did it with water cut rocks and clouds in half

 

[Night Smoke]

you are talking about fodders

mei single handedly countered madara's katons

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Lol damn....totally forgot about that chapter...

 

[Drakengard]

Yeah don't get me wrong. I do agree with you that it is quite powerful when combined with other elements to make bloodline moves but either then that, a single water based ninja has no purpose. Who is he/she going to have an upper hand on? An Uchiha? I doubt he/she will win. Not many people have prime Fire based nature, only with the exception of a kekkei genkai combination.

Well that's only if you look at nature advantages by themselves. IIRC, if a water and a fire jutsu strike w/ about the same power in both of them, we are led to believe that the water jutsu will overcome the Katon. If the same happens between an earth style and a water style jutsu, the water jutsu will inevitably fail unless it's a special circumstance. So overall it's fair and balanced. The only real way I can see it being unbalanced is the idea that there aren't as many fire style users in the NU as earth style users.

In the end the nature advantage is only worth taking note on in certain fights. Do most of the Konoha Rookies even use an element when fighting? By strictly feats, water style is actually really versatile. Even w/o KG usage. Water clones, water projectiles, pressurized water prisons, and a blinding mist were all benefits that Zabuza got without a blood line! Of course I assume that water ninja are better when water is already present.

I could be getting the entire idea of your thread wrong but meh

 

[Night Smoke]

you are talking about fodders

mei single handedly countered madara's katons

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But lets not forget that no one else uses Fire besides a low number of survivors of the Uchiha clan. & THEY DON'T NEED TO USE FIRE TO WIN BATTLES. So my next question is, what is the point? Who else in the Naruto World uses fire?? I can't think of anyone. She might as well keep that jutsu inside her big bra!

 

[Night Smoke]

Well that's only if you look at nature advantages by themselves. IIRC, if a water and a fire jutsu strike w/ about the same power in both of them, we are led to believe that the water jutsu will overcome the Katon. If the same happens between an earth style and a water style jutsu, the water jutsu will inevitably fail unless it's a special circumstance. So overall it's fair and balanced. The only real way I can see it being unbalanced is the idea that there aren't as many fire style users in the NU as earth style users.

In the end the nature advantage is only worth taking note on in certain fights. Do most of the Konoha Rookies even use an element when fighting? By strictly feats, water style is actually really versatile. Even w/o KG usage. Water clones, water projectiles, pressurized water prisons, and a blinding mist were all benefits that Zabuza got without a blood line! Of course I assume that water ninja are better when water is already present.

I could be getting the entire idea of your thread wrong but meh

Very well said. This is one of the most smartest arguement that has been posted on this thread alone. & I especially agree with you that water ninjutsu is beneficial when their is a huge water source such as a lake or ocean nearby!

 

[lol99]

But lets not forget that no one else uses Fire besides a low number of survivors of the Uchiha clan. & THEY DON'T NEED TO USE FIRE TO WIN BATTLES. So my next question is, what is the point? Who else in the Naruto World uses fire?? I can't think of anyone. She might as well keep that jutsu inside her big bra!

kisame used water to win his fights
and no fire can counter that

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[slaton02]

But lets not forget that no one else uses Fire besides a low number of survivors of the Uchiha clan. & THEY DON'T NEED TO USE FIRE TO WIN BATTLES. So my next question is, what is the point? Who else in the Naruto World uses fire?? I can't think of anyone. She might as well keep that jutsu inside her big bra!

Kakashi, Hiruzen, fodder nin. also uses fire.
Water is better than fire and earth by far and tied with wind and lightning. tell me 3 jutsu's all must be the same element that is better than water prison,water dome and giant shark bullet?

 

[Night Smoke]

kisame used water to win his fights
and no fire can counter that

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(Look @ 1:30) & see how water gets neutralized. So I guess YOUR THE FOOL WHO GAVE PROOF THAT YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT

 

[lol99]

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(Look @ 1:30) & see how water gets neutralized. So I guess YOUR THE FOOL WHO GAVE PROOF THAT YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT

unleash your rage using a video game

 

[Night Smoke]

Kakashi, Hiruzen, fodder nin. also uses fire.
Water is better than fire and earth by far and tied with wind and lightning. tell me 3 jutsu's all must be the same element that is better than water prison,water dome and giant shark bullet?

Kakashi uses lightning NOT FIRE.

Its true about Hiruzen using Fire & that was one of his greatest effective methods in defeating Edo Tobirama (Who also uses water). I keep explaining that fire can dissapate water IN THE NARUTO WORLD & NOWHERE ELSE BUT THE NARUTO WORLD but however, many people are still thinking based on the real world.

 

[slaton02]

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(Look @ 1:30) & see how water gets neutralized. So I guess YOUR THE FOOL WHO GAVE PROOF THAT YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT

Lol you think that same fire jutsu can take out water dome xd. BTW that was a small water sharks itachi had to use a medium size fire tech jutsu to neutralize it. Kisame defeated Bee a lightning user, he solo'd roshi and lava(which is better than fire) release user with low diff and Tobirama was famous for his water techs. Also Zabuzu had Kakashi beat(another lightning user) with water prison just amit you underestimated water jutsu's.

EDIT:You didn't know Kakashi uses fire techs? I guess you thought the 1000 jutsu's was all lightning xd you still didn't answer my question....can't think of any can you?

 

[Night Smoke]

unleash your rage using a video game

Lol come on mr.lol 99. Nobody is mad here. Im just trying to make you feel stupider then your comment and no its not necessarily the video game but a performance based on the real Naruto series.

 

[lol99]

Lol come on mr.lol 99. Nobody is mad here. Im just trying to make you feel stupider then your comment and no its not necessarily the video game but a performance based on the real Naruto series.

if you think fireball cancels water dome then i have nothing more to say to you xd
i am out of this fail thread

 

[Lilvic92]

Kisame, nuff said.

 

[Night Smoke]

Lol you think that same fire jutsu can take out water dome xd. BTW that was a small water sharks itachi had to use a medium size fire tech jutsu to neutralize it. Kisame defeated Bee a lightning user, he solo'd roshi and lava(which is better than fire) release user with low diff and Tobirama was famous for his water techs. Also Zabuzu had Kakashi beat(another lightning user) with water prison just amit you underestimated water jutsu's. Lol we havent even seen Roshi fight. For all we know Kisame could have met Roshi while he was on a mission and exhausted or even worst, injured. Lets not forget that Roshi is a jinchuriiki so definetly Kisame will have unlimited chakra for water techniques by absorbing the beast chakra.

EDIT:You didn't know Kakashi uses fire techs? I guess you thought the 1000 jutsu's was all lightning xd

Ok, although your right about Kakashi having fire based techniques from his 1000 jutsu mimmics but however, till this manga release he has not used 1 fire technique throughout the whole series. If a ninja uses lightning while being in a water prison he will obviously shock himself. That is the reason why Kakashi did not use Raikiri inside Zabuza water prison.

 

[Night Smoke]

if you think fireball cancels water dome then i have nothing more to say to you xd
i am out of this fail thread

Now your just putting words in my mouth but its okay. Your exact words was "run away" and I completely understand since natzzz reply right under you is your birth mark =)

 

[slaton02]

Ok, although your right about Kakashi having fire based techniques from his 1000 jutsu mimmics but however, till this manga release he has not used 1 fire technique throughout the whole series. If a ninja uses lightning while being in a water prison he will obviously shock himself. That is the reason why Kakashi did not use Raikiri inside Zabuza water prison.

@bold Lol exactly, fire would do nothing also. You can barely move in water prison so you would not even be able to from a jutsu.You just amitted water jutsu's are beastly, basicly. xd I'm done here

 

[LolaxXx]

Hidden mist tech will solo most Ninja.
Giant Water wave explosion has the forec of a title wave, it will either crush you, knock you unconsious or leave you disorientated.
Shark Missles, will shred you to pieces
giant shark bullet will absorb most jutsu
Water Prison, hold you there till u drown.