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*Waits in whatever area best suits this type of training.*
I've had no prior training in the element.
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Tell me what you know of Water release, it's relationship with each element, and two proficient users in the element along with how they've shown using it.
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I don't know much about the element specifically, other than, for the most part, suiton jutsu tend to focus on dealing damage through raw concussive force. I know it's one of, if not the most versatile element there is because of its ability to take on virtually any shape or form along with the fact that it exists and can be manipulated in several different forms (e.g. You can increase and conversely decrease its viscosity, increase cohesiveness, manipulate it in the form of a super-fluid with the addition of Katon chakra) and the list goes on.
Water appears to have something of an "open" relationship with the other elements. For example, fire. Although water naturally extinguishes fire, with enough water and just the right intensity/amount of heat/fire, one can heat water to scalding hot temperatures, boasting more impressive offensive power and making it all the more harder to defend against. When used in collaboration with water, the wind element has the effect of "boosting" water already impressive concussive power, making torrents all the more malevolent. It's relationship with lightning is pretty obvious - Water conducts electricity, not only augmenting offensive power and making it harder to defend, but making it easier to electrocute someone (whom upon electrocution, would be rendered paralyzed if lucky). Earth and water have more of a 'give and take' relationship - Earth is naturally strong against water because of its 'impermeable' nature. Though not often used together, water can be used together with earth - For example, you can use water to drastically increase the flow of mud to the point that it resembles a pyroclastic flow.
Kisame and Tobirama - Two superlative masters of the element. Kisame is more renowned for his rough, aggressive style of fighting, often having water take on the form of sharks to corner, attack and eventually, devour his opponents. His prowess with the element, along with his use of Samehada and chakra absorbing abilities made him a formidable opponent. Alternatively, Tobirama's use of the element demonstrates a higher level of expertise and finesse; He alone maintained the ability to conjure water without the use of handseals along with evaporating pre-existing sources at will. Half of the badass shit we've seen - in relevance to the water element - was a result of Tobirama's ingenuity in early episodes.
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Water appears to have something of an "open" relationship with the other elements. For example, fire. Although water naturally extinguishes fire, with enough water and just the right intensity/amount of heat/fire, one can heat water to scalding hot temperatures, boasting more impressive offensive power and making it all the more harder to defend against. When used in collaboration with water, the wind element has the effect of "boosting" water already impressive concussive power, making torrents all the more malevolent. It's relationship with lightning is pretty obvious - Water conducts electricity, not only augmenting offensive power and making it harder to defend, but making it easier to electrocute someone (whom upon electrocution, would be rendered paralyzed if lucky). Earth and water have more of a 'give and take' relationship - Earth is naturally strong against water because of its 'impermeable' nature. Though not often used together, water can be used together with earth - For example, you can use water to drastically increase the flow of mud to the point that it resembles a pyroclastic flow.
Kisame and Tobirama - Two superlative masters of the element. Kisame is more renowned for his rough, aggressive style of fighting, often having water take on the form of sharks to corner, attack and eventually, devour his opponents. His prowess with the element, along with his use of Samehada and chakra absorbing abilities made him a formidable opponent. Alternatively, Tobirama's use of the element demonstrates a higher level of expertise and finesse; He alone maintained the ability to conjure water without the use of handseals along with evaporating pre-existing sources at will. Half of the badass shit we've seen - in relevance to the water element - was a result of Tobirama's ingenuity in early episodes.
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Wow, I am seriously impressed. I don't even think I could pull out something like that. =D
Just a couple things I'd like to mention, Fire and Water doesn't really create heated water unless you're really good with it, but the nature of fire is generally to evaporate the water which creates steam. You could probably get away with it if the Fire is of a lower rank that the water or doesn't try to fully evaporate it, such as using a stream of fire instead, but the consensus is that when the two collide, they create steam which can be very helpful as a mist-like substance that can't be passed because it's so hot.
Water and Lightning is basically exactly as you intended it to be, but because it's a conductor, Lightning usually gets stronger thanks to the water (similar to Fire/Wind combos) and it's range grows to the length of the water. Using a mid-range lightning technique on a long-range water technique will extend it to long-range. I believe using a short-range would only extend it to mid-range though, don't count on me for that yet.
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Just as a disclaimer, my style of training is a little different from your standard training. With other teachers you might perform techniques, maybe describe some advantages and disadvantages. My style is more informative, where it's mostly about the theory of using the techniques in battle, possible combinations and so forth. It's a bit boring to describe how you channel chakra all the time so this is done primarily to eliminate that; I wasn't good with it so I don't expect you to be good with it. It's sort of meant to emulate the style of my Sensei, Zero Kelvin so if you're good with that we can start. ^^
I totally didn't copy-paste that bit. >_>
Just a couple things I'd like to mention, Fire and Water doesn't really create heated water unless you're really good with it, but the nature of fire is generally to evaporate the water which creates steam. You could probably get away with it if the Fire is of a lower rank that the water or doesn't try to fully evaporate it, such as using a stream of fire instead, but the consensus is that when the two collide, they create steam which can be very helpful as a mist-like substance that can't be passed because it's so hot.
Water and Lightning is basically exactly as you intended it to be, but because it's a conductor, Lightning usually gets stronger thanks to the water (similar to Fire/Wind combos) and it's range grows to the length of the water. Using a mid-range lightning technique on a long-range water technique will extend it to long-range. I believe using a short-range would only extend it to mid-range though, don't count on me for that yet.
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Just as a disclaimer, my style of training is a little different from your standard training. With other teachers you might perform techniques, maybe describe some advantages and disadvantages. My style is more informative, where it's mostly about the theory of using the techniques in battle, possible combinations and so forth. It's a bit boring to describe how you channel chakra all the time so this is done primarily to eliminate that; I wasn't good with it so I don't expect you to be good with it. It's sort of meant to emulate the style of my Sensei, Zero Kelvin so if you're good with that we can start. ^^
I totally didn't copy-paste that bit. >_>
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(Suiton No Jutsu) - Water technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Damage Points:20
Description: Creates small waves of water,small blasts, and small shields of water.
Note: Doesn't require a water source but can be used to manipulate existing water.
Simple, but effective technique. You can use this in an infinite amount of ways, similar to the Earth variant of this technique. I'm sure you don't need much explanation on it, since it's rather simple but it's handy for tight situations where you can't weave hand seals or anything like that.
(Kirigakure No Jutsu) - Hidding in Mist Jutsu
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: This displacement technique creates a thick mist to spring forth by lifting up some water from either a pre-existing source or expelled from their mouth, then goes in and out of sight at will from within the pearly-white realm. The mist's thickness is controlled by the amount of chakra kneaded into it. It can't fool the Byakugan, but, due to the mist being created with the user's chakra, any Sharingan and Rinnegan-user will see the mist coloured by their opponent's chakra, which will effectively hide the user from the dōjutsu.
Note: Can be created through releasing from mouth or manipulating a nearby water source.
Mist Village's namesake technique, incredibly useful if you're either a member of that village like myself or have yourself a Byakugan. You're basically exuding a mist from all around you which hides you from almost anyone. Keep in mind that this also hinders your own senses, but people from the village can rely on their other senses such as hearing to find others. Those of the Inuzuka are also great at fighting in the Mist, due to their heightened senses of smell and hearing to rely on.
(Suiton: Mizu Kuri No Yaiba) - Water Style: Sword of Draining
Rank: D
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: A technique that utilizes water to create a sword. The sword can be wielded in the normal fashion, allowing the ninja to cut and stab like with a normal blade.
Note: Doesn't require a water source.
Pretty much you're compressing water in your hand to create a standard katana, or any other sort of sword you desire. It's makeshift, but still tangible, you're better off using the real thing.
( Suiton: Junsai no Jutsu ) - Water Release: Water Shield Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary, Defence
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user will manipulate their water chakra and releasing it from their arm which is held outwards infront of them and they then create a shield of water that can aide in defence against projectile weapons and close combat techniques.
Another simple technique, you're creating a shield from your arm which when compressed becomes thick enough to protect you from close-range techniques and projectiles. It wouldn't be too big, but it's a simple technique, works well against smallish fire techniques. Be careful with this if you know your opponent fancies using lightning.
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Damage Points:20
Description: Creates small waves of water,small blasts, and small shields of water.
Note: Doesn't require a water source but can be used to manipulate existing water.
Simple, but effective technique. You can use this in an infinite amount of ways, similar to the Earth variant of this technique. I'm sure you don't need much explanation on it, since it's rather simple but it's handy for tight situations where you can't weave hand seals or anything like that.
(Kirigakure No Jutsu) - Hidding in Mist Jutsu
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: This displacement technique creates a thick mist to spring forth by lifting up some water from either a pre-existing source or expelled from their mouth, then goes in and out of sight at will from within the pearly-white realm. The mist's thickness is controlled by the amount of chakra kneaded into it. It can't fool the Byakugan, but, due to the mist being created with the user's chakra, any Sharingan and Rinnegan-user will see the mist coloured by their opponent's chakra, which will effectively hide the user from the dōjutsu.
Note: Can be created through releasing from mouth or manipulating a nearby water source.
Mist Village's namesake technique, incredibly useful if you're either a member of that village like myself or have yourself a Byakugan. You're basically exuding a mist from all around you which hides you from almost anyone. Keep in mind that this also hinders your own senses, but people from the village can rely on their other senses such as hearing to find others. Those of the Inuzuka are also great at fighting in the Mist, due to their heightened senses of smell and hearing to rely on.
(Suiton: Mizu Kuri No Yaiba) - Water Style: Sword of Draining
Rank: D
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: A technique that utilizes water to create a sword. The sword can be wielded in the normal fashion, allowing the ninja to cut and stab like with a normal blade.
Note: Doesn't require a water source.
Pretty much you're compressing water in your hand to create a standard katana, or any other sort of sword you desire. It's makeshift, but still tangible, you're better off using the real thing.
( Suiton: Junsai no Jutsu ) - Water Release: Water Shield Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary, Defence
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user will manipulate their water chakra and releasing it from their arm which is held outwards infront of them and they then create a shield of water that can aide in defence against projectile weapons and close combat techniques.
Another simple technique, you're creating a shield from your arm which when compressed becomes thick enough to protect you from close-range techniques and projectiles. It wouldn't be too big, but it's a simple technique, works well against smallish fire techniques. Be careful with this if you know your opponent fancies using lightning.
So for this part, I'd like for you to take these techniques and rearrange them in order of your preference. The top should be the technique you prefer, your favourite etc, while your last technique should be the least favourite, or the least desireable technique for you to use in battle.
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This is different :heh:
Out of all of them, I'd have to say that the (Kirigakure No Jutsu) - Hidding in Mist Jutsu is my most "preferred technique," mainly because I like to make extensive use of the silent homicide technique, made most efficient when used under the cover of this mist. It suits my tastes - my style.
My second favorite would have to be (Suiton No Jutsu) - Water technique. It's as you said - the technique's very versatile.
My third favorite technique would have to be (Suiton: Mizu Kuri No Yaiba) - Water Style: Sword of Draining. Because it doesn't require a water source, I'm assuming you can just create the water "from nothing" by either compressing the water vapor in the air, or just releasing / creating the water in your hand by yourself, when you swing your arm to deliver a blow (e.g. a punch) you could create the sword in mid-swing, confusing the opponent as to your true reach, and probably stabbing them before they have time to react and compensate for your (the users) extended reach.
And lastly there's the ( Suiton: Junsai no Jutsu ) - Water Release: Water Shield Technique. It's not often that I find myself in need of a shield. Half the time, I end up using my body as a shield; The few fights I've been in have all ended in short range, so I usually just trade blows - But I always make sure to get the better end of the deal. Long story short, it's not that I 'dislike' this technique, I just don't really 'need' to use it in general.
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I swear, I'm going to feel redundant after training you. ~_~
Your list is very nice, and I'd probably use the same sort of list myself. But let's think about these little bits some more, shall we? ^^
Hidden Mist technique is versatile. Since it's comprised of chakra, you can completely shut down Uchiha and those with the Rinnegan with this technique. It makes it very useful for these people who rely on their eyes and can potentially protect you from genjutsu which requires sight as a medium as a lot of them do.
Water technique is still very good, even with other stronger, but more specific techniques. If you've got a small fire heading towards you, put it out. Use it to knock someone off their feet or to cushion a fall or something, anything works. Sometimes it's better to use this with a water source, but it's all up to the imagination.
Totally not stealing your Sword Draining idea... :scorps:
But yes, you can create the sword "from nothing" using your own chakra. Keep in mind that it has to start from your hand and move upwards, so you can't do anything silly like impaling them from forming the blade from the tip of the sword.
Next part is again, a little different. I will give you a few scenarios or situations which you might face in battle eventually, and you will have to provide me with the technique you think is the best to use in the situations. This is solely using the techniques we've just talked about as well, so you can't go off to your A-Rank Lightning and find something which works there. Also when you choose, I want you to provide reasons as to why you chose the forgiven techniques for the situations. For now we'll start with one since there's not many D-Ranks, but as we get to higher ranks *coughcrankscough* we'll need more.
If you comprende, we'll move on. :3
Your list is very nice, and I'd probably use the same sort of list myself. But let's think about these little bits some more, shall we? ^^
Hidden Mist technique is versatile. Since it's comprised of chakra, you can completely shut down Uchiha and those with the Rinnegan with this technique. It makes it very useful for these people who rely on their eyes and can potentially protect you from genjutsu which requires sight as a medium as a lot of them do.
Water technique is still very good, even with other stronger, but more specific techniques. If you've got a small fire heading towards you, put it out. Use it to knock someone off their feet or to cushion a fall or something, anything works. Sometimes it's better to use this with a water source, but it's all up to the imagination.
Totally not stealing your Sword Draining idea... :scorps:
But yes, you can create the sword "from nothing" using your own chakra. Keep in mind that it has to start from your hand and move upwards, so you can't do anything silly like impaling them from forming the blade from the tip of the sword.
Next part is again, a little different. I will give you a few scenarios or situations which you might face in battle eventually, and you will have to provide me with the technique you think is the best to use in the situations. This is solely using the techniques we've just talked about as well, so you can't go off to your A-Rank Lightning and find something which works there. Also when you choose, I want you to provide reasons as to why you chose the forgiven techniques for the situations. For now we'll start with one since there's not many D-Ranks, but as we get to higher ranks *coughcrankscough* we'll need more.
If you comprende, we'll move on. :3
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Alright so for the last part:
*A standard shinobi standing mid-range from you sends a few bolts of lightning towards you to defend against.*
Okay, so for this I'd like for you to list what you think the best technique to use against this encounter, and what you think would be the worst to use in this situation. Also I'd like for your reasoning as to why you chose these abilities.
*A standard shinobi standing mid-range from you sends a few bolts of lightning towards you to defend against.*
(Raiton no Jutsu) - Lightning Release Technique
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will manipulate their chakra to create small bolts of lightning to attack their target.
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will manipulate their chakra to create small bolts of lightning to attack their target.
Okay, so for this I'd like for you to list what you think the best technique to use against this encounter, and what you think would be the worst to use in this situation. Also I'd like for your reasoning as to why you chose these abilities.
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The first thing that comes to mind is using the (Suiton No Jutsu) - Water technique to create a small (small, but large enough to protect me) wave of water in front of myself that flows in the direction of the incoming lightning; The wave would act as a shield, conducting / absorbing the lightning shocks. Under the aforementioned circumstances, I'd imagine the wave would also continue to flow, only slightly hindered by the lightning. I could also create a small wave under myself, and ride that in order to evade.
I could also, probably, create a pillar of water somewhere beside myself and jump onto that. Under the condition that the lightning was aimed towards my body alone (and not the entire area within my general vicinity) - I would avoid the technique through my own physical effort, while technically avoiding breaking one of the RP's most basic rules (you have to avoid one jutsu with another). But I'd prefer to avoid using this method for several reasons.
In my opinion, making use of the Water Technique would probably be most effective because of the many numerous applications of the technique. There's a number of ways to avoid, or defend using it.
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The worst way to defend might very well be to use the (Suiton: Junsai no Jutsu ) - Water Release: Water Shield Technique. Despite the fact that it offers a method of defense, letting the electricity hit the water connected to your body is probably worse than having it hit your bare flesh and experiencing a few, isolated shocks. It's for that reason that I don't say that the Sword of draining, or even Hidden Mist technique's are the worst possible choice. I'm not really sure about this one, but this is my reasoning.
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Pretty much right. Though you're thinking about it too much when it comes to the defensive properties of Water Release Technique. While I like your thought process, sometimes trying to make things too complicated makes it hard to explain. Just using blasts of water to take on the Lightning would be better, as the water conducts it and because of the equal rank, they'd pretty much cancel each other out.
Least favorable could be any of the above techniques, really. Water and Lightning is a little harder to work with, though I would have chosen Hidden Mist, since it doesn't do anything in order to protect yourself from the lightning, and would eventually shock your body. Using it as a shield which comes from your arm only really spreads it over the shield and then affects your arm, and the same with Sword of Draining. While they're all dangerous, this is purely my opinion as to what's the least favorable technique to use.
So that concludes that. If you don't have any questions, we'll move onto C-Ranks.
Least favorable could be any of the above techniques, really. Water and Lightning is a little harder to work with, though I would have chosen Hidden Mist, since it doesn't do anything in order to protect yourself from the lightning, and would eventually shock your body. Using it as a shield which comes from your arm only really spreads it over the shield and then affects your arm, and the same with Sword of Draining. While they're all dangerous, this is purely my opinion as to what's the least favorable technique to use.
So that concludes that. If you don't have any questions, we'll move onto C-Ranks.