The ability to use a bijuu and its chakra is a jin's power just like the sharingan is of the uchiha's. Its just too sad that uchiha faps are too triggered to acknowledge facts and have to make these stupid excuses to make themselves feel better lol.
It's not their own power if the user can't even remain conscious to retain such abilties and especially if the user isn't even in control of his or her actions. I'm well aware of a jinchuriki status but I'm also aware the bijuu itself is a living creature with their own will
Well how the bijuu's power is used may differ but it is the jin's power as long as the jin is able to force it out of the bijuu regardless of their will or control them and make them cooperate. That's the entire reason the jins were created. To contain the bijuu and use its power for their own as per the manga and here you are telling me different lol.
Jins were used as military weapons so the bijuu itself can launch attack on other nations.
@Bold There are no examples for that other than maybe Rin which again was setup by Madara to begin with. None of the villages wanted to loose their bijuus or jin as that would've left them defenseless against an invasion.
Why do you think Gaara was under orders by his sand village. The only way to get Gaara back under control was for someone to knock the shukaku control out of him: the sand village had a way of controlling Gaara and using the bijuu for their own gain but this does not equate for the person hosting the bijuu. The chunin exams is about using your own power not having a bijuu figh for you while you sleep
Does it matter why he was? The only thing that matters is that he was restricted in that fight.
Well that's definitely one way but who was around Gaara when he used the jutsu? Temari and maybe Kankuro following behind them and we already know both were scared of his normal form lol and Temari was planning to run away after he went into his released form. And we also know Gaara had no desire to die. So why do you think Gaara would use a jutsu were he had know control over its end unless he actually did have control. So doubt that that was the only way.
Lol the only reason Gaara was treated like a pariah by his dad was because he had given up on being able to control Gaara so no.
@Bold In that case Naruto would've been disqualified but he wasn't so again a no. And while the bijuu is sealed inside the jin, its their power as long as they could use it no matter the means.
From what I've been reading from your posts, its your understanding that's failing lol. Temari and Kankuro were scared of him because he was mentally unstable and killed on a whim. But when it came to controlling the bijuu's power, he controlled it quite well all throughout the chunnin arc. No one even got wind of the fact that he was sand's jin. As for controlling his bijuu's powers, your understanding is lacking again.
That's not control. Releasing the Bijjus chakra because of the mental instability caused by his bijuu is not control not at all.having the bijuu roam free while you sleep again is it control over the bijuu. No matter how you try to twist the facts Gaara is not the one pulling the strings when he transforms
Again you lack understanding. Sure he was unstable and easy to trigger, but its not his unstability that released the Bijuu but his anger over him being injured which pissed him bad. Go read the manga again before coming back with your lame ass assumptions. If there's any twisting of facts then its from your end not mine cuz its all in the manga.
Agreee to disagree? Because I don't see how giving something over your conscious is the same as self control over a bijuu. The bijuu is fighting for you and you're not controlling its power it's slowly corroding your mind and you slowly give up your free will each time you use its power. Garra takes it to another level and lets the bijuu fight for him is not what he chunin exam is about he would have been immediately disqualified if that's how he were to use his Jin powers.
That's fine by me. Anyway it is self control when you're the one initiating the technique knowing full well what it'll do. As I said just like a summoning Gaara's technique allows him to summon his bijuu out and fight for him.
Again stop making excuses. Everyone knows Gaara wouldn't be in that position were he to use his full power from the start but he was restricted and Sasuke lost much before Gaara brought out Shukaku to fight for him. Gaara wouldn't even have to bring out Shukaku had Naruto not intervened and finished off Sasuke after toying with him a bit more. Sasuke lost that fight miserably.
Except the thread is about the chunin exams and no having a bijuu fight for you is it control over the bijuu nor does it give Gaara control over his bijuu for letting it fight for him. There's no proof Gaara can stop the technique at any given moment since he goes to sleep when the bijuu controls him. Gaara isn't restricted from using his full power you just said he has control over when the bijuu can be released? :lol: Gaara couldn't use it because Sasuke stopped him before he can bring it out . Gaara was defeated in the arena and ran away it's not an excuse but a fact
@Bold The thread is about Sarada vs Shinki fight during the chunnin exams not Gaara vs Sasuke and that fight was interrupted in the middle.
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The idea of a bijuu running rampant and Gaara mind who is not only sleeping but completely unstable won't be able to stop his own jutsu is stupid for you to imagine?@Bold The thread is about Sarada vs Shinki fight during the chunnin exams not Gaara vs Sasuke and that fight was interrupted in the middle.
Bijuu fighting for you is control indeed when the bijuu just can't break free of the jin. And there's no proof that he can't stop the jutsu either but logically nobody especially someone like Gaara who wanted to live would cast a jutsu that they can't come out off. The whole idea is stupid to even imagine. My guess would be that the jutsu ends after a certain time and maybe the caster can even set how long the jutsu stays active.
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Gaara was restricted to bring it out even though he was pissed at being wounded he controlled it. Sasuke stopped nothing. And when Gaara did bring it out, it didn't take long for Sasuke to be lying down on the ground. Sasuke simply couldn't do a thing.
And Gaara didn't run away, the leaf's invasion started in the middle of their fight but if it hadn't and if Gaara was pushed then he'd have made a show of Sasuke in front of everyone. In that regard Sasuke was lucky lol.
And the same unstable person able to hide his identity of being a jin so well despite his unstablity. He was unstable not dumb. I hope you know the difference...
I get it why have to deal with this stupidity lol. Some people are simply too dumb to understand plain and simple logic...:lol
He wasn't crying the entire chapter lol. Sasuke was lucky to be not humiliated in front of everyone. That too after he learnt such a cool jutsu from Kakashi. Had Gaara not pulled back his partial transformation, it'd have been game over for Sasuke. Guess Gaara revealing his identity as a jin would've made the sand's intention clear before they actually wanted and thus he gained his composure controlled the transformation but felt its effects.
Right equating Gaara mental stability with the fact he was able to hide his gen powers through the exam means he is fully capable of containing his bijuu right?And the same unstable person able to hide his identity of being a jin so well despite his unstablity. He was unstable not dumb. I hope you know the difference...
I get it why have to deal with this stupidity lol. Some people are simply too dumb to understand plain and simple logic...:lol
He wasn't crying the entire chapter lol. Sasuke was lucky to be not humiliated in front of everyone. That too after he learnt such a cool jutsu from Kakashi. Had Gaara not pulled back his partial transformation, it'd have been game over for Sasuke. Guess Gaara revealing his identity as a jin would've made the sand's intention clear before they actually wanted and thus he gained his composure controlled the transformation but felt its effects.
I wasn't completely sure if you were a trolll before but now I see that you are.
Well didn't he? He only used it when he wanted to.
@Bold Exaclty, he unleashed it....O wait your dumbass forgot he unleashed the beast against Sasuke before the plan was even suppose to begin
Calm down no need to be triggered over facts lol but I never said or agreed to what you're trying to imply here. And I agree @Bold and concession accepted.