was Madara really defeated by hashirama

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this thread speaks truth+ Logic :


Was Madara really defeated by Hashirama at the valley of end?


the Obvious answer is :NOOOOOO!!.......But why??..



the goal changes the course of the fight!!


any fighter has a goal...this goal is obviously to win and avoid defeat....if you fight to win...you will do your best and use all your skills to defeat your adversary...but if you fight for a different goal...you skills in battles and strategies will change according to that goal...

thus :

Madara's true purpose behind hashirama's fight wasn't to defeat hashirama.....BUT IT WAS TO STEAL PORTION OF HIS DNA!!!...


-Madara had to fake his death so that he get forgotten by history and work secretly for his MEP....


-Madara doesn't care if he gets defeated by hashirama as long as he gets portion of his DNA....

-Madara's goal was to unlock rinnegan...wich really happned.... that is why Madara was smarter then hashirama becuz he obtained what he wanted...



read carfully what Tobidara(Madara) says then you will understand my point :

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"true winner is he who chose to focus on the future"....WHAT A BADA$$ QUOTE!!
 
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*rereads manga and see hashirama stab madara through the chest then madara falls to the ground*

*madara goes into hiding and never vs's hashirama again until the 4th shinobi war*



Ot:yea he beat madara
 

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Hashirama won Madara knew inferiority he said it multiple times Hashirama was stronger. He surpassed him when he took how DNA too improve himself. Hashirama won ALLL there Skirmishes don't let a Modified Madara fool yah
 

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The dude surpassed him when he got the following:

- 2nd life

- Rinnegan

- Hashirama's Dna

- Hashirama's SM


Though even this is a blur statement, due to the fact Hashirama claimed he had a way to bind those with his SM.
 

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Hashirama won Madara knew inferiority he said it multiple times Hashirama was stronger. He surpassed him when he took how DNA too improve himself. Hashirama won ALLL there Skirmishes don't let a Modified Madara fool yah

EMS Madara is stronger then hashi
 

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And Madara exploded into a Kaguya so I guess he lost.
 

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It's literally in the manga that he was defeated. Manga > You.

In fact, even Edo Madara with mokuton and Rinnegan lost to Hashirama without the latter using SS.

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It's literally in the manga that he was defeated. Manga > You.

In fact, even Edo Madara with mokuton and Rinnegan lost to Hashirama without the latter using SS.

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Don't bother with this guy, there's no substance there.
 

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It was a strategic movie to get the power balance in his favour. He realised the uchiha clan were running scared and needed a big move. Hashirama is a naive weakling compared to lord madara. Had his brother and woman fighting for him XD
 

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if you say the purpose of their fight was so that madara could steal hashi's dna....then it would be more grand if madara was able to beat and crush hashi to a pulp...walk up to him.....talk trash to him..take a sample of his dna and then walk away like a boss but he couldn't do this because hashi was too strong for him...he got a sword in the back instead...and somehow manage to steal a sample of dna from hashi.
 

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It was a strategic movie to get the power balance in his favour. He realised the uchiha clan were running scared and needed a big move. Hashirama is a naive weakling compared to lord madara. Had his brother and woman fighting for him XD

he had to bring his wife mito in the battle to win against madara...what a cheater..
 

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SM Hashirama is stronger and more powerful than EMS Madara.
 

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he ran and hid like a coward :p
 

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SM Hashirama is stronger and more powerful than EMS Madara.

Stabbing in the back is the ultimate symbol of weakness (cowardice). Oh well, it's not like he had another way of 'winning'. Madara played him right.
 
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