Was Juubito immortal

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After absorbing the Shinju, Madara claimed he had become immortal/undying. Juubito had the tree within him during a portion of his existence as a Juubi Jin. During that time was Juubito "immortal", or was Madara getting full of himself after absorbing the shinju and briefly speaking to Kaguya.
if Juubito is immortal then Sasuke's pathetic Kanseitai Susanoo can't defeat Juubito. U_U Only Solo Emperor Kakashi Kanseitai Susanoo can manage it due to the insanely powerful kamui shuriken
Just kidding. Don't crucify me.
Hashirama had the juubi inside him & still aged and died, so no.
 

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Incorrect. We were already told why he did it by he himself and that is because of Ashura.
No, Ashura inspired him to make the 9 bijuu but he still intended on sealing away the Juubi before that

Madara wasn't fearing for his life in that moment as he had regenerated enough from the attack to jump up and absorb the tree. The fact he specifically stated he was immortal after confirms what the Holy Tree grants.
There's limits to his healing he's not Majin Buu after all, he made it clear that Gai's attacks were fatal to him
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And if he was immortal he wouldn't have resorted to absorbing the Shinju in order to fight two 16 year olds that just recently awakened their powers.

It has nothing to do with chakra but sheer life force itself. Besides, I never once stated that the Demonic Statue grants immortality.
Nope, life force is a product of physical energy which is what chakra constitutes of, Madara said he was feeding off the Gedo's chakra not life force
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No, Ashura inspired him to make the 9 bijuu but he still intended on sealing away the Juubi before that
Hagoromo being afraid of the ten-tails escaping after his death is your complete assumption thus it does not help your argument. All that is certain is that he separated the ten-tails after accepting Ashura's ideals and lived off of the life force of the Demonic Statue before having it sealed.

There's limits to his healing he's not Majin Buu after all, he made it clear that Gai's attacks were fatal to him
And if he was immortal he wouldn't have resorted to absorbing the Shinju in order to fight two 16 year olds that just recently awakened their powers.
All of this is irrelevant since I'm aware he wasn't immortal during his fight with Guy and initial encounter with Naruto.

Nope, life force is a product of physical energy which is what chakra constitutes of, Madara said he was feeding off the Gedo's chakra not life force
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Obviously he was getting chakra as well or else he'd die. It's already been stated however that the Demonic Statue itself carries a strong life force. It has nothing to do with chakra only or else you'd be suggesting Madara could have survived if Obito just transferred chakra to him, which is laughable at best. Your chakra doesn't determine how long you live.
 

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He probably was. Juubi jin Madara without the Shinju inside of him was obviously in pain, whereas Juubito got his body drilled with a rasengan, Half of his body blasted off with a TSO and his stomach sliced open with a Susanoo blade and didn't really seem to feel endangered or care much about the damage itself, much like how it was with Madara after he absorbed the Shinju.

Although it is also possible that you need to absorb the Juubi in its "final form" (bloomed Shinju) to gain immortality seeing how Hagoromo wasn't immortal from just being a Juubi jin.
 

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He probably was. Juubi jin Madara without the Shinju inside of him was obviously in pain, whereas Juubito got his body drilled with a rasengan, Half of his body blasted off with a TSO and his stomach sliced open with a Susanoo blade and didn't really seem to feel endangered or care much about the damage itself, much like how it was with Madara after he absorbed the Shinju.

Although it is also possible that you need to absorb the Juubi in its "final form" (bloomed Shinju) to gain immortality seeing how Hagoromo wasn't immortal from just being a Juubi jin.
A Rasengan with normal SM is nothing compared to a Lava RS powered by RSM, in fact none of the jutsu Obito tanked can be compared to RSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke's feats.
 

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Your all wrong. Madara and obi to had one major difference, madara had both rinnegan. That's why kaguya could appear. Madara reached kaguyas level that's why kaguya could appear. Obits never reached that level due to only having one rinnegan.
 

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Here's how it goes.
Madara needed ashura and indra Chakra to awaken hagaromo Chakra.
Hagaromo Chakra awakened the rinnegan.
Then he needed to absorb kaguya to reach her level.
Kaguya was the God tree, the juubi, and the 9 bijuu. Once madara absorbed the God tree, he was complete and reached kaguyas level and hence she appeared. At that point if no one killed him aka guy then he could be immortal. If left alone
 

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I dont believe they are immortal. They just live a really long time. Infinite Tsukoyomi has the potential to provide lifetime support and the millenia fruit grants nigh immortality when it comes round. Thats my take on it.
 

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A Rasengan with normal SM is nothing compared to a Lava RS powered by RSM, in fact none of the jutsu Obito tanked can be compared to RSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke's feats.
That isn't the point. We are not talking about durability here but immortality.
What matter is the kind of damage his body can recover from, not what it takes to damage him. To put it simply, take the example of Alucard from hellsing or Deadpool from marvel comics, they can get their bodies shredded to pieces by normal bullets but will just laugh it off and regenerate because of their immortality. Whereas someone like, say Goku, wouldn't even take any damage from bullets but would be dead on the spot if he ever were to get his body shredded by anything.

So basically, even though it takes much more power to actually hurt someone with high durability, the instant they take fatal damage they are dead, unlike an immortal for whom the amount of damage taken does not matter because whether their bodies are durable enough to tank it or get blasted to pieces by it, they'll still survive anyway.
 
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I think Kaguya was the only immortal because she had to be sealed. Juubidara & Juubito both died so immortality was not in the cards for them as long as they wanted IT to be activated. Kaguya would've broken through them both as long as they reached a certain point in power.
It's the entire plot....
 

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I thought it over and changed my opinion kinda. Juubito is immortal but in the sense that he won't die from age,diseases,etc. He could still likely be killed if a vital organ is destroyed(Brain,heart,etc). There's different types of immortality, Shinju JJ madara and kaguya seemed to be completely immortal. That's possibly why the six path seals are the only way to defeat them.
 

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I thought it over and changed my opinion kinda. Juubito is immortal but in the sense that he won't die from age,diseases,etc. He could still likely be killed if a vital organ is destroyed(Brain,heart,etc). There's different types of immortality, Shinju JJ madara and kaguya seemed to be completely immortal. That's possibly why the six path seals are the only way to defeat them.
Half of his brain was destroyed and he was still able to function. That was before he released the Shinju. Whether he was in control or not shouldnt matter since itn still involves his body.
 

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Half of his brain was destroyed and he was still able to function. That was before he released the Shinju. Whether he was in control or not shouldnt matter since itn still involves his body.
Was that when the juubi tried to possess him? Iirc that only erased a big part of his bloated body, not his head.
 
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