Was Jiraya even that useful?

ethan201222

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I love Jiraya and all but besides teaching Naruto the rasengan, was he actively useful in teaching naruto anything during the time skip. Apparently, Naruto increased his tactics against genjutsu but barely. To me the first few episodes of Naruto Part 2, we basically saw the same naruto as in part one.

Naruto's true improvement came with the wind style rasengan and later on sage mode, before this he was basically the same naruto from part one.
 

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jiraiya was more like his philosophical teacher, a parent that showed him the way, someone to protect him.
 

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ima leava this thread b4 the war begins. ..cuz we both know in the end jaraiya's gonna win!
 

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You should have specified if Jiraiya was useful involving the TRAINING.

Cuz your title implies you mean Jiraiya in general so prepare to be flamed. I'll even give you one myself: This thread is bad. You should feel bad. Jiraiya was awesome
 

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True in the time skip he didn't learn much but jiraya was like his father naruto won't be the same without him plus naruto after the time skip become smarter and better at genjutsu
 

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I agree, and that is one of the things I don't like about the beginning of part 2. Naruto was basically the same from part 1 but with more rasengan variations, I guess I was expecting too much since jiraiya was a sannin.
 

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Just leave now.
 

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Seriously? Well he trained naruto and passed down his beliefs to him
 

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Man Jiraya was one of the greatest teacher naruto ever had ........
Plus all the new jutsu's naruto has learnt were thanks to Jiraya and you can't forget SM was mastered by Jiraya only
which then helped Naruto indirectly to master it
 

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lmao people are getting so fiesty for no reason on this discussion, i don't think there's anyone that cana ctually disagree that we have the same Naruto from part one in the beginning of part two, just slight improvements
 

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failed thread :sy: , do you have to make a thread to show your stupidity? :sy:
 

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Well without Jiraiya, Naruto would be trash so...
 

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Man Jiraya was one of the greatest teacher naruto ever had ........
Plus all the new jutsu's naruto has learnt were thanks to Jiraya and you can't forget SM was mastered by Jiraya only
which then helped Naruto indirectly to master it

True but im really discussing about the beginning of part two
 

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He technically taught Naruto how to do the Tailed Beast Bomb :)
 
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