Was Itachi's chakra always low?

[salamander uchiha]

Some of you are confused all shinobi have natural chakra reserves which flow through the chakra network they're separate from stamina. Stamina/physical energy can be converted alongside spiritual energy and be used as chakra also but not viceversa. If it was just stamina that was being converted then dojutsu users wouldn't be able to measure it or tell your out of chakra also pointing to it being different.

 

[Jas]

Q: Was Itachi's chakra always low?

A: No.

R: He was a master mind, he knew he was going to die in the fight against Sasuke, and that's how he wanted to go.

@ You get the idea of what I'm trying to point out, just digg a bit.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Acording to Ebisu, you can't have more chakra than stamina (or viceversa actually) since he explains that using percentages (as in, if the total stamina is 100%, and someone converted 20% to chakra, the ratio would be 80 - 20. I guess what I mean is the sum cannot be more than 100) .

Also, I didn't say that Itachi had low reserves as is, I'm saying that, due to his sickness, it's probable that he has lower reserves than he would have if healthy, since that would affect his stamina and therefore his chakra.

Ebisu did not say you cannot have more stamina than chakra.

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. He had too much stamina so he was dumping unnecessary amounts of chakra into technique. That's where chakra control comes into play. Now Itachi being Uchiha naturally inherits high levels of mental energy as the databook stated. His problem was his physical energy (yes) due to health.

But here's a quick run down just to recap the difference between stamina and chakra (which i'm sure you know the difference of).

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Now it is possible to have high level of chakra without having an extraordinary amount of stamina due to having powerful chakra. Having powerful amounts of chakra (uchihas) allow you to combined little amounts of energy to produce strong amount of chakra with only a little percentage. The only thing you cannot do is have both stamina and chakra gone which would leave you dead.

So Itachi does not have low chakra, he just have low amounts of physical energy (stamina) although his mental energy being Uchiha is higher than any other clan/shinobi that is not Uchiha. If you get into the whole shadow style jutsus like genjutsu, you'll know that it requires higher amounts of mental energy and low amounts of physical energy to use like a 7(mental) to 3(physical) ratio type of deal when converting energy into chakra. <-just an example.

Plus Itachi outlasted Hebi Sasuke in chakra

 

[SenseiSama]

Some of you are confused all shinobi have natural chakra reserves which flow through the chakra network they're separate from stamina. Stamina physical energy can be converted alongside spiritual energy to raise and be used as chakra also but not viceversa. If it was just stamina that was being converted then dojutsu users wouldn't be able to measure it or tell your out of chakra also pointing to it being different.

All shinobi have natural reserves but all shinobi can't use their reserves in the same manner. stamina is the difference between two people with the same chakra pool not being able to control the same amount of chakra.

The more amount of chakra a shinobi has the more amount of stamina is required for them to use it, it's why only Ashura incarnates can use SM's full power and also why Naruto had so much trouble controlling Kurama's power in part 1, his body didn't mature enough to develop the stamina required for Juubi tier reserves.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Just and add... Kakashi spammed Kamui how many times until bleeding begun? Unlike with Amaterasu. Also about Obito's strain on the eye is completely something different, he was changing dimensions ...something more powerful then just Kamui ,its self as a technique is much more powerful and exhausting then normal Kamui technique.

that was his fifth usage that day.

Sidebar: bleeding has no correlation with how much chakra it costs to use. I was just indicating that kamui can cause bleeding

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Considering a feat including kyuubi chakra when obviously we know what the original kakashi full healthy is capable of? Meh.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

Q: Was Itachi's chakra always low?

A: No.

R: He was a master mind, he knew he was going to die in the fight against Sasuke, and that's how he wanted to go.

@ You get the idea of what I'm trying to point out, just digg a bit.

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[BenjerminGaye]

Ebisu did not say you cannot have more stamina than chakra.

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. He had too much stamina so he was dumping unnecessary amounts of chakra into technique. That's where chakra control comes into play. Now Itachi being Uchiha naturally inherits high levels of mental energy as the databook stated. His problem was his physical energy (yes) due to health.

But here's a quick run down just to recap the difference between stamina and chakra (which i'm sure you know the difference of).

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Now it is possible to have high level of chakra without having an extraordinary amount of stamina due to having powerful chakra. Having powerful amounts of chakra (uchihas) allow you to combined little amounts of energy to produce strong amount of chakra with only a little percentage. The only thing you cannot do is have both stamina and chakra gone which would leave you dead.

So Itachi does not have low chakra, he just have low amounts of physical energy (stamina) although his mental energy being Uchiha is higher than any other clan/shinobi that is not Uchiha. If you get into the whole shadow style jutsus like genjutsu, you'll know that it requires higher amounts of mental energy and low amounts of physical energy to use like a 7(mental) to 3(physical) ratio type of deal when converting energy into chakra. <-just an example.

Plus Itachi outlasted Hebi Sasuke in chakra

dont mix words here. Let's be very clear with this. Powerful chakra=/= large chakra reserves, or even average chara reserves.

In Fact the potency of chakra has nothing to do with the amount of chakra you have.

So, as we've already low stamina-> low chakra. So trying to play semantics with "hurr durr his physical energy is low, but spiritual is high" won't change the fact the both constitute as stamina and you need both in to make chakra

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[Tyrance sasuke]

There's no proof other than the words itachi spout which are 99% fabricated truth or in essence, lies. Only clowns believe his words. He even said kisame to worry about guy, who was near equalized by seventh gate guy without samehada lmfao. See my point? Clowns would make futile points to change fact but it never will, itachi's words are lies, therefore he has more chakra and stamina than hebi Sasuke or at least on par.

 

[salamander uchiha]

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[Tyrance sasuke]

This is turning into a mud-pool, hebi Sasuke's stamina and chakra reserves are stupidly enormous, coming from the fact he and kimimaro inherited the strongest curse seals, we know how much stamina jirobo and kidoumaru had in thier respective fights; now estimate Sasuke with a dead itachi almost blind. Thats stupid but still itachi trumps. Proving his own fallacious statement wrong.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

This is turning into a mud-pool, hebi Sasuke's stamina and chakra reserves are stupidly enormous, coming from the fact he and kimimaro inherited the strongest curse seals, we know how much stamina jirobo and kidoumaru had in thier respective fights; now estimate Sasuke with a dead itachi almost blind. Thats stupid but still itachi trumps. Proving his own fallacious statement wrong.

youre making it seem as if sasuke was fighting itachi to outlast him... if he wanted to im sure he could. But no that wasn't his goal.

 

[MightGai]

Ebisu did not say you cannot have more stamina than chakra.

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. He had too much stamina so he was dumping unnecessary amounts of chakra into technique. That's where chakra control comes into play. Now Itachi being Uchiha naturally inherits high levels of mental energy as the databook stated. His problem was his physical energy (yes) due to health.

But here's a quick run down just to recap the difference between stamina and chakra (which i'm sure you know the difference of).

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Now it is possible to have high level of chakra without having an extraordinary amount of stamina due to having powerful chakra. Having powerful amounts of chakra (uchihas) allow you to combined little amounts of energy to produce strong amount of chakra with only a little percentage. The only thing you cannot do is have both stamina and chakra gone which would leave you dead.

So Itachi does not have low chakra, he just have low amounts of physical energy (stamina) although his mental energy being Uchiha is higher than any other clan/shinobi that is not Uchiha. If you get into the whole shadow style jutsus like genjutsu, you'll know that it requires higher amounts of mental energy and low amounts of physical energy to use like a 7(mental) to 3(physical) ratio type of deal when converting energy into chakra. <-just an example.

Plus Itachi outlasted Hebi Sasuke in chakra

Well, I did say that you cannot have more chakra than stamina in the first place (wasn't so sure about the other one) since Stamina is the source of chakra, and with the conversion it's not logical to have more chakra converted than the actual source of it.

Those are generic words that really doesn't state much. chakra "power", "high level", etc can mean a lot of things in different contexts. Also, you're saying that "having powerful amounts of chakra (uchiha)" with "little amounts of energy" produce "strong amount of chakra" ... so they use chakra to produce chakra???. Guess you meant "mental energy" in the first place, but even so, we know nothing about the ratio of energies to produce chakra. Does it have to be the same amount of mental and physical energy to produce chakra? Fukasaku kinda hints at that in his senjutsu explaination.

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He states that in order to create chakra, mental and physical energies must be balanced (even in the examples he gives with senjutsu, in both cases physical and spiritual energies are balanced). Therefore he cannot just overcompensate with mental energy (and add a tiny amount of physical energy) to produce vast amounts of chakra. In this scenario, as Fukasaku hints at, Itachi's chakra limit (and everyone's, actually) would be set by his lowest stat, in this case his physical energy.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Funny thing, itachi was senju hashirama's will, yet has the lowest physical energy, despite the father of stamina living in him lmfao. The irony :lol

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Well, I did say that you cannot have more chakra than stamina in the first place (wasn't so sure about the other one) since Stamina is the source of chakra, and with the conversion it's not logical to have more chakra converted than the actual source of it.

Those are generic words that really doesn't state much. chakra "power", "high level", etc can mean a lot of things in different contexts. Also, you're saying that "having powerful amounts of chakra (uchiha)" with "little amounts of energy" produce "strong amount of chakra" ... so they use chakra to produce chakra???. Guess you meant "mental energy" in the first place, but even so, we know nothing about the ratio of energies to produce chakra. Does it have to be the same amount of mental and physical energy to produce chakra? Fukasaku kinda hints at that in his senjutsu explaination.

I said that they need high amounts of mental energy to produce chakra but essentially you're right. There's two types of stamina but you can still have one stamina higher than the other to produce high amounts of chakra.

He states that in order to create chakra, mental and physical energies must be balanced (even in the examples he gives with senjutsu, in both cases physical and spiritual energies are balanced). Therefore he cannot just overcompensate with mental energy (and add a tiny amount of physical energy) to produce vast amounts of chakra. In this scenario, as Fukasaku hints at, Itachi's chakra limit (and everyone's, actually) would be set by his lowest stat, in this case his physical energy.

Bro that's just for Sage Mode dude. Here's an example of high amounts of mental energy and low amounts of physical energy ninjutsu that's in a high level:

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This is a B ranking technique btw despite the example being a hiden/secret art it is common for special chakra to comprise of this stamina ratio. Still, you see my point. If Itachi had "low chakra" then he would not be able to use the mangekyo sharingan. If you believe what Ben does (that stamina is chakra), then kakashi should have a lower stamina than 3 in his states because in part 1 he didn't have enough chakra to use the mangekyo sharingan until part 2 which Itachi had since part 1.

 

[Mori Jin]

Funny thing, itachi was senju hashirama's will, yet has the lowest physical energy, despite the father of stamina living in him lmfao. The irony :lol

Now tell me where you got this nonsense from? .

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I said that they need high amounts of mental energy to produce chakra but essentially you're right. There's two types of stamina but you can still have one stamina higher than the other to produce high amounts of chakra.


Bro that's just for Sage Mode dude. Here's an example of high amounts of mental energy and low amounts of physical energy ninjutsu that's in a high level:

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This is a B ranking technique btw despite the example being a hiden/secret art it is common for special chakra to comprise of this stamina ratio. Still, you see my point. If Itachi had "low chakra" then he would not be able to use the mangekyo sharingan. If you believe what Ben does (that stamina is chakra), then kakashi should have a lower stamina than 3 in his states because in part 1 he didn't have enough chakra to use the mangekyo sharingan until part 2 which Itachi had since part 1.

it says in the scan that its unstable and looks for physical energy to balance out. So youre kinda proving his point.

And again stop making false arguments with the bold. nobody here said stamina=chakra youre the only one bringing that bs to the table.

@ underline. Dude never used MS, didn't even know it existed. Nor has he ever said "i didn't have enough chakra to use it"

 

[MightGai]

I said that they need high amounts of mental energy to produce chakra but essentially you're right. There's two types of stamina but you can still have one stamina higher than the other to produce high amounts of chakra.


Bro that's just for Sage Mode dude. Here's an example of high amounts of mental energy and low amounts of physical energy ninjutsu that's in a high level:

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This is a B ranking technique btw despite the example being a hiden/secret art it is common for special chakra to comprise of this stamina ratio. Still, you see my point. If Itachi had "low chakra" then he would not be able to use the mangekyo sharingan. If you believe what Ben does (that stamina is chakra), then kakashi should have a lower stamina than 3 in his states because in part 1 he didn't have enough chakra to use the mangekyo sharingan until part 2 which Itachi had since part 1.

No, read below.

No, read what fukasaku said, "you already know how to balance mental / spirit energies to create chakra for Ninjutsu". He's clearly talking about ninjutsu, not senjutsu (which he adds later).

Regarding what shikamaru says:

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As with genjutsu, the doki Tayuya summons and their worms are based on Yin release (and Shikamaru hints that, since he says they don't have substance). Yin is only one type of chakra category, which would explain as a matter of fact why Itachi
was good with Genjutsu and why all uchihas can cast genjutsu with Sharingan, but that in turn means he cannot use the other types (katon, the dojutsus, etc) as efficiently, since the chakra ratio is not leaned towards spiritual energy (katon might be an exception, since it may be possible that it was his chakra element affinity). Basically what we know is that all nature transformations share spiritual / physical energies in balanced parts, Yin (like the Nara's clan shadow techniques) uses more spiritual and Yang (Like Akimichi's size changing techniques) uses more physical.

So basically what I mean is that Itachi's reserves, distributed as they are (and taking into account that Uchiha inhereted spiritual energy from SO6P), are geared towards a more efficient and prolonged use of Yin release, which doesn't mean he had vast reserves to use the other chakra manipulations as efficiently as this one.

Well, this got interesting all of a sudden, I've never paid too much attention to the chakra natures and stuff other than the basic 5 nature transformations.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

it says in the scan that its unstable and looks for physical energy to balance out. So youre kinda proving his point.

1. It says it's starved for physical energy to be stabilized not balanced out.
2. It proves my point because it lacks enough physical energy (stamina) but is still a ninjutsu. MightGai said that it must be balanced to create chakra/ninjutsu here is Tayuya's jutsu being unbalance. He didn't know that the scan he provided was strictly for senjutsu for both energies to be balanced to utilize natural energy.

And again stop making false arguments with the bold. nobody here said stamina=chakra youre the only one bringing that bs to the table.

You basically were

@ underline. Dude never used MS, didn't even know it existed. Nor has he ever said "i didn't have enough chakra to use it"

My god stfu. He eventually figured out that he MS in part 2 and during part 1 he was complaining that the 3 tomoe took too much chakra from him. I will pull up a scan right now to make you drop this nonsense