was it ever explained why adult naruto's spm changed?

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

his six paths sage mode during the war arc is way different compared to his adult spm. was it ever explained why his adult spm looks like bm?

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

We may never know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Maybe he is slowly losing or making his Rikudou Chakra stronger in the long term but that's just my theory

 

[Pappasaur]

I always thought it was because it’s still six paths sage mode and nothing’s changed about that, but when he was in the kaguya fight and VOTE2 and used his chakra cloak, it was a cloak with chakra from all the tailed beasts. He still has access to their chakra but as an adult he only uses kuramas chakra and that’s why his chakra cloak looks different. Kind of like in the Last when he didn’t even use six paths sage mode against Toneri, only regular tailed beast sage mode. Naruto has taken to using only what’s necessary because he never *has* to go all out, tailed beast sage mode was enough for Toneri and six paths sage mode with kuramas chakra and sasuke was enough for fused Momoshiki.

 

[EZQ]

Naruto doesn't have rikudou mode anymore. Anyone who denies it, is in denial.

-He can't fly anymore. He could've flied to save Hinata in the last, but he didn't.

-He doesn't have the black orbs anymore

-His skin doesn't glow on RSM, and every time he uses the form as an adult, his skin glows, exactly like BSM, BM and KCM.

Abscence of evidence is evidence of abscence. Kishimoto is too lazy to draw Naruto in RSM, and maybe he just forgot about it, or he doesn't like it. Does it make sense? No. But Naruto in RSM could rival Sasuke and the 9 bijuus. Sasuke loses the Bijuus.. so naruto has to lose something aswell.

Sasuke clearly says on VOTE 3 to naruto, that he has very little rikudo chakra left.

And correct me if i'm wrong, but every time Naruto lost a so6p black orb, it didn't grow back. He just went losing those powers little by little.

 

[Michael]

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[salamander uchiha]

Or maybe he's lost it? Have you ever wondered why he didn't use the greatest SM to try and locate Sakura and instead relied on a limited range Toad SM. If you have then you'll likely reach the same conclusion as many of us.

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

Or maybe he's lost it? Have you ever wondered why he didn't use the greatest SM to try and locate Sakura and instead relied on a limited range Toad SM. If you have then you'll likely reach the same conclusion as many of us.

he hasnt lost it he get that mode from the charka of all 9 tailed beast if he asked the bijuu to lend him their chakra then he would be in spsm but either he has no need of it since he has 100% kurama and sage mode or there hasnt been a crisis where he put into a osition to use it

 

[salamander uchiha]

he hasnt lost it he get that mode from the charka of all 9 tailed beast if he asked the bijuu to lend him their chakra then he would be in spsm but either he has no need of it since he has 100% kurama and sage mode or there hasnt been a crisis where he put into a osition to use it

I think your mistaken, Naruto gets access to the TSB's and tailed beasts abilities via the tailed beasts not the 6 paths SM. That's a seperate hand out, remember Naruto was in an upgraded RSM when he kicked back Madara’s TSB even without his cloak active. At this point it's quite confusing since the databook puts both states under the RSM.

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

I think your mistaken, Naruto gets access to the TSB's and tailed beasts abilities via the tailed beasts not the 6 paths SM. That's a seperate hand out, remember Naruto was in an upgraded RSM when he kicked back Madara’s TSB even without his cloak active. At this point it's quite confusing since the databook puts both states under the RSM.

all the bijuu chakra mixed together is six path sage mode the truth seeking ball is just a technique that available to those who uses senjutsu for example obito who absored the the ten tails which is all the bijuu together had senjutsu and used tsb naruto senjutsu is different he activating kuramas cloak along with with senjustu thus he can activate spsm in reg form or with kuramas cloak

 

[Styles]

Because he’s not using the other bijuu’s chakra for it and is only using Kurama’s.

 

[Pappasaur]

Or maybe he's lost it? Have you ever wondered why he didn't use the greatest SM to try and locate Sakura and instead relied on a limited range Toad SM. If you have then you'll likely reach the same conclusion as many of us.

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Naruto doesn't have rikudou mode anymore. Anyone who denies it, is in denial.

-He can't fly anymore. He could've flied to save Hinata in the last, but he didn't.

-He doesn't have the black orbs anymore

-His skin doesn't glow on RSM, and every time he uses the form as an adult, his skin glows, exactly like BSM, BM and KCM.

Abscence of evidence is evidence of abscence. Kishimoto is too lazy to draw Naruto in RSM, and maybe he just forgot about it, or he doesn't like it. Does it make sense? No. But Naruto in RSM could rival Sasuke and the 9 bijuus. Sasuke loses the Bijuus.. so naruto has to lose something aswell.

Sasuke clearly says on VOTE 3 to naruto, that he has very little rikudo chakra left.

And correct me if i'm wrong, but every time Naruto lost a so6p black orb, it didn't grow back. He just went losing those powers little by little.

Naruto hasn’t lost spsm because when he’s using sage mode there’s no pigmentation around his eyes, save for when he was looking for Sakura with toad sage mode which further proves that he still has spsm because you can visibly see the difference between the two modes when he uses them both. He even says “guess I can’t cut corners with this punk” when he sees shins mangekyou and has to protect Sarada and Chocho, so he switches from using toad sage mode to spsm

 

[neosmith500]

Naruto hasn’t lost spsm because when he’s using sage mode there’s no pigmentation around his eyes, save for when he was looking for Sakura with toad sage mode which further proves that he still has spsm because you can visibly see the difference between the two modes when he uses them both. He even says “guess I can’t cut corners with this punk” when he sees shins mangekyou and has to protect Sarada and Chocho, so he switches from using toad sage mode to spsm

Pretty much this. When was Naruto looking for Sakura in toad SM? Pretty sure he was heading to Sasuke and already knew his location from the scroll.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Maybe because of the different author

 

[salamander uchiha]

Naruto hasn’t lost spsm because when he’s using sage mode there’s no pigmentation around his eyes, save for when he was looking for Sakura with toad sage mode which further proves that he still has spsm because you can visibly see the difference between the two modes when he uses them both. He even says “guess I can’t cut corners with this punk” when he sees shins mangekyou and has to protect Sarada and Chocho, so he switches from using toad sage mode to spsm

Pretty much this. When was Naruto looking for Sakura in toad SM? Pretty sure he was heading to Sasuke and already knew his location from the scroll.

When shin took her Naruto used TSM to try and locate her then complained it had limited range. That's why I say if he still had RSM he would've used it to locate her. It's the most highest and strongest sensory ability available. I don't look at pigmentation as proof of possession of an ability as authors can get sloppy or not give af about details at times.

 

[Pappasaur]

When shin took her Naruto used TSM to try and locate her then complained it had limited range. That's why I say if he still had RSM he would've used it to locate her. It's the most highest and strongest sensory ability available. I don't look at pigmentation as proof of possession of an ability as authors can get sloppy or not give af about details at times.

When does it say rsm has better sensory skills? Obviously it is a superior sage mode, but I don’t recall it ever being stated to have any kind of sensory that’s in a different league from TSM besides when he can feel sasukes chakra, but that was because sasuke had the other half of hagoromos power.

And I agree authors definitely get sloppy lol but kishi usually catches and fixes his mistakes like with boruto and Himawari not having byakugan (although be never gives them to boruto) and when he didn’t have the tomoe in sasukes rinnegan for a chapter and put them back in the next chapter and said it was because his eyes were weakened. I think if the pigmentation was a mistake, kishi would have said something about it

 

[salamander uchiha]

When does it say rsm has better sensory skills? Obviously it is a superior sage mode, but I don’t recall it ever being stated to have any kind of sensory that’s in a different league from TSM besides when he can feel sasukes chakra, but that was because sasuke had the other half of hagoromos power.

It grants comprehension of all things it's power and range are also many fold superior to TSM. It's litterally replicating the Jyubi's jins powers in Naruto's body. Unless you're telling me Jyubi jin sensory powers are at the same level as TSM?

As for Naruto sensing Sasuke's I'm not referring to that since that's to do with the Rokudo powers.

And I agree authors definitely get sloppy lol but kishi usually catches and fixes his mistakes like with boruto and Himawari not having byakugan (although be never gives them to boruto) and when he didn’t have the tomoe in sasukes rinnegan for a chapter and put them back in the next chapter and said it was because his eyes were weakened. I think if the pigmentation was a mistake, kishi would have said something about it

Kishi intended both Hima and Borat to have the Byakugan they didn't draw it and he ended the manga on that note. Kodachi inserted dojutsu later on not Kishi. As gor Sasuke not having Tomoe that wasn't a mistake rather it was a way to explain sasuke was low on chakra and required a cool off period. That's not teally a mostake to begin with.

 

[Pappasaur]

It grants comprehension of all things it's power and range are also many fold superior to TSM. It's litterally replicating the Jyubi's jins powers in Naruto's body. Unless you're telling me Jyubi jin sensory powers are at the same level as TSM?

As for Naruto sensing Sasuke's I'm not referring to that since that's to do with the Rokudo powers.



Kishi intended both Hima and Borat to have the Byakugan they didn't draw it and he ended the manga on that note. Kodachi inserted dojutsu later on not Kishi. As gor Sasuke not having Tomoe that wasn't a mistake rather it was a way to explain sasuke was low on chakra and required a cool off period. That's not teally a mostake to begin with.

I brought up naruto sending sasuke since that was the only sensory feat I could think of for rsm. I don’t know that their sensory skills are on par with each other, I would think that naruto would be better with tsm as an adult than when he was a teenager and it’s possible he became so adept with tsm sensing that he didn’t even need rsm to search for her. Naruto and sasuke realized sakura was in another dimension when naruto was only using tsm. It’s possible that naruto had strong enough sensing to either search the planet (far fetched, I know) But as much as I remember that chapter, that’s what I remember being implied otherwise he would have switched to rsm to search.

As for hima and bort, I thought it was kishi that gave hima the byakugan in the short “the day naruto became hokage” and as for sasuke rip I legit thought that was just a mistake lol. I remembered seeing it on here somewhere but I guess it was just salt on a forum and not actually mangafact

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Well damn, if he doesn’t have it anymore, and they’re still being portrayed as equals and even have a lil gai/kakashi thing going on I guess that means bsm adult nardo = rinne adult sauce?

 

[neosmith500]

When shin took her Naruto used TSM to try and locate her then complained it had limited range. That's why I say if he still had RSM he would've used it to locate her. It's the most highest and strongest sensory ability available. I don't look at pigmentation as proof of possession of an ability as authors can get sloppy or not give af about details at times.

I agree that it would make sense if he had used even base RSM at the very least. But at the same time the scenario clearly shows that Kishi cared enough about the details to differentiate the SM w/pigments , compared to the form w/o , as Naruto used both forms in the same few chapters. BSM should've shown pigmentation same as SM but it doesn't. The only time lack of SM pigmentation becomes a thing is in RSM , which is why i look at it. But yea u already knew this and i understand the stance of the opposition , as this debate is only possible due to sloppy work but it wont lead anywhere.

 

[So6Ps]

Unless it was explicitly stated that Naruto no longer has spsm, then he definitely still does have it. He was shown flying in the Boruto anime and there's plenty of valid explanations for why he hasn't used TSBs.