Was Haku Really Stronger Than Zabuza?

[Naruto9001]

Zabuza stated that Haku was stronger than him and he even told kakashi that he wouldn't stand a chance aganist haku and kakashi had a fully developed 3 toome sharington but sasuke was able to see haku's movements with a partial undevloped sharington.

So i dont know give me all your thoughts about this.

 

[Cfighter]

Haku did have a KG and a damn good one at that. Sasuke was just barely able to see Haku's movements, and yes while a three tomoe sharingan would most likely been able to keep up, Haku was still strong. Perhaps not AS strong as Zabuza made him out to be, but he did only die because he was protecting Zabuza with suicide.

 

[mezuki]

Maybe Zabuza underestimated the sharigan
Thats all i can say on the topic since im confused as well

 

[KoolKat]

Zabuza was high when he said it XD

 

[SSW Imp]

Well to me Haku was toying around with them but if "was one on one Haku could've killed sasuke but naruto saved him and made distractions while sasuke watched how Baku moved. A tag team effort by naruto and sasuke but yes haku was much stronger then zabuza given he had a bloodline trait and amazing speed

 

[naruman]

u have already seen it sasuke breaking out of itachi's tsukyomi (sorry for spelling ) n zetsu stating that its depend on user how they uses there sharingan ...... sasuke can use it better then Kakashi at that time also..!! thats the reason he won

 

[Takeo]

Well, I believe it's safe to say that Haku was stronger than Zabuza. (If Zabuza stated it himself, who are we to say otherwise?)

However, him being stronger than Kakashi is doubtful. As you said, Sasuke was able to see Haku moving from mirror to mirror with just a 2 tomoe Sharingan; while Kakashi had a fully developed 3 tomoe Sharingan, and was much faster than Sasuke at the time.

So, in theory: Kakashi > Naruto(Kyuubi rage) > Haku > Zabuza > Sasuke > Naruto(normal) At the time.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Kakashi's stamina was pathetic in the Zabuza arc. After 1 raikiri and a bit of sharingan use he was pretty much drained. I dunno why he toyed around with Zabuza as much as he did..logic would say he would have killed him quickly, as he was more than capable of doing(I feel Zabuza is completely overrated and was quite a bit below even that weak of a version of Kakashi). Letting him get his blood to be able to smell him was needed, but he should have ended it directly after that and gotten to Naruto and Sasuke.

But now that my "should have used logic" argument is over, was Haku really stronger than Zabuza? If he got him in to mirrors I think he would be. But outside of that? I don't think so.

 

[Flyest of the fly]

Haku>Zabuza

 

[9jakakashi]

Characters tend to overate their surbodinates e.g zabuza overating haku, orochimaru overatin kabuto, danzo overatin sai (that he cud kill sasuke) and oda root members, somtimes tsunade overates kakashi, so
kakashi>haku>zabuza

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

Haku might be stronger of the 2 but I think sasuke could only follow his movements with 2 tomoe because haku starts slowing down after a while when using his mirror jutsu

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

I am not 100% convinced that it is true, it could have been a bluff.

For instance, we see here that Kakashi states that Haku is stronger than him ONLY because he one-shotted Zabuza, but we find out later that Zabuza had Haku wait nearby and that Haku was intended to save Zabuza who was about to die anyway.

We know that Kakashi was superior to Zabuza. Before you say this let me remind you that the only reason that Kakashi got caught in the water prison was because Zabuza orginally used a Naruto, Sasuke, Tazuna, and Sakura, who were ALL useless at the time and actually HINDERING Kakashi. With the exception of Tazuna (and probably Sakura), we know that Naruto and Sasuke could solo Zabuza while eating ramen using only their feet in the current time.

Now Haku, at the same point, lost to an initial jinchuuriki form Naruto. Let's say Kakashi back then was able to at least suppress the chakra of Naruto in his two-tailed form. Zabuza should be on par when it comes to that despite obvious differences in Kakashi and Zabuza's strength.

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Based on Ninjutsu, I see it like this...

Haku uses Ice Mirrors and Zabuza uses the Hidden Mist jutsu.

Haku can't attack what he can't see, since he isn't a master of silent killing like Zabuza, meaning that Zabuza can escape the ice mirrors undetected. Haku isn't a sensor either, so he relies on his eyes whereas Zabuza has hearing so sensitive that he can pretty much hear your heartbeat.

 

[Nerei]

Zabuza was high when he said it XD

That would explain the heavy mist. Hidden Mist jutsu my ass xd

 

[Killahkels]

I think he was underestimating team seven and at the same time speaking potential wise. I have a feeling if Haku lived then he would definitely surpassed Zabuza and perfected his jutsus

 

[Zabuza Sensei]

although im a zabuza fan-boy, i cant really see how haku is stronger than zabuza. i mean yeah the ice mirrors thing is a very solid jutsu and all. but from the manga and anime showing the fights, haku really didnt do anything else to prove that he's a great ninja. while on the other hand, zabuza was feared for his silent killing, his powerful techniques, and of course he was in the 7 ninja swordsmen of the mist.

 

[Naruto9001]

although im a zabuza fan-boy, i cant really see how haku is stronger than zabuza. i mean yeah the ice mirrors thing is a very solid jutsu and all. but from the manga and anime showing the fights, haku really didnt do anything else to prove that he's a great ninja. while on the other hand, zabuza was feared for his silent killing, his powerful techniques, and of course he was in the 7 ninja swordsmen of the mist.

exactly, haku is overrated sasuke who just unlocked the sharington was able to see his movements and zabuza is much faster than sasuke was back then.