Was anyone else blown away by Tobiramas max power?

[jiraiya lives]

hashi made 6, tobirama made 2, minato made 1, and hiruzen made none


hashi>tobirama>minato>hiruzen...this is what i've been saying for months and this chapter has finally proved just how skilled tobirama is

 

[End of Days]

more like minato needs one clone to do what tobirama needs two clones to do and what hashirama needs multiple clones to do

 

[aimop95]

To be fair...I don't really know where to rank Tobirama in terms of Hokage feats...I mean, the most we know about him is that he died to a group of Anbu...and that he killed Izuna and set up the stage for the Uchiha rebellion....

 

[KingHashirama]

Madara was ressurected beyond his prime by Kabuto who even modified his body, so it's possible that Madara is only an exception. And lol at the teleportation who doesn't require a lot of chakra. Did you see how huge that TBB was? It was even bigger than Shinsuusenju lol. And yes i believe Minato can make much more clones in KCM since nothing suggest he can't in the contrary of Hashirama or Tobirama where it was clearly stated. He only needed one to get the job done since he had another plan than attacking Madara, which was attacking Obito directly, and i don't believe they can have more chakra than half Kyubi, but well you can think whatever you want. Concerning Tobirama's statement, he said he can't use more than 2 and that he was in a "sorry state", so that's a complain

-sigh-. Go remeasure the size the bijuu bomb.. . lmao. Even the juubi isn't as huge/tall as the Shinsuusenjuu

And nothing suggest that he can. I will say the same for Hiruzen, that he couldn't make clones. Making excuses for Minato as usual. Let me guess this is gonna be the same as that thread, where you were saying Minato can also break out of Edo Tensei bind. ^_^. Am I right?

And you still haven't answered my question, where does it suggest he can use more clones? and Hashirama has done 13 clones now while already restraining the juubi and keeping up the barrier.. While Minato only managed one in KCM ^_^.

more like minato needs one clone to do what tobirama needs two clones to do and what hashirama needs multiple clones to do

Fanboyism is highhhhhhhh. xD

 

[Bogard]

more like minato needs one clone to do what tobirama needs two clones to do and what hashirama needs multiple clones to do

And still fail

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[jiraiya lives]

more like minato needs one clone to do what tobirama needs two clones to do and what hashirama needs multiple clones to do

naw it's just that hashi wanted to show off with the most clones

tobirama didn't give a shit about how many hashi used to he just randomly made two

and minato tried to look badass by trying to solo with only one clone

while hiruzen was chillen like im the elder yall youngers can handle this

 

[Bogard]

-sigh-. Go remeasure the size the bijuu bomb.. . lmao. Even the juubi isn't as huge/tall as the Shinsuusenjuu

And nothing suggest that he can. I will say the same for Hiruzen, that he couldn't make clones. Making excuses for Minato as usual. Let me guess this is gonna be the same as that thread, where you were saying Minato can also break out of Edo Tensei bind. ^_^. Am I right?

And you still haven't answered my question, where does it suggest he can use more clones? and Hashirama has done 13 clones now while already restraining the juubi and keeping up the barrier.. While Minato only managed one in KCM ^_^.



So Minato was purposely not helping out the alliance?

I see no excuse when there is basically no proof in the manga at all? You're the one who should show me the proof Minato can only make one if you're so sure about it, but well i guess you simply can't find because the proof doesn't exist, or maybe just in the Senju land

 

[End of Days]

naw, just reading the manga the right way

others beat around the bush by wasting tons of chakra and still dont get the job done, minato does only the necessary and the job is done

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[Retsu]

Spoiler

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Right here Tobirama admits he's in a sorry state, due to maintaining the barrier. ***********>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mangapanda

 

[KingHashirama]

I see no excuse when there is basically no proof in the manga at all? You're the one who should show me the proof Minato can only make one if you're so sure about it, but well i guess you simply can't find because the proof doesn't exist, or maybe just in the Senju land

So So I should now give Minato the Bijuu bomb also? . Since Naruto can produce a mini one in KCM.. Minato should be able to also..

The proof isn't about him making more clones, we already know he can. The proof is about him having the power to make more clones while keeping up the barrier. First Hashirama's limit was known to be 5 clones.. now its 13. When Minato proves otherwise lets debate.

you didn't see me saying Hashirama can do more clones =]. Cause i had nothing to back it up with. I guess extreme fanboyism blinds a person.

Plus , your the one who said Minato is on level with Hashirama and Tobirama in regards to breaking the bind, while showing no proof =].

naw, just reading the manga the right way

others beat around the bush by wasting tons of chakra and still dont get the job done, minato does only the necessary and the job is done

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False actually. Others sent the clones to help out the alliance. In case Madara succeeded. Hashirama had already told Sasuke and Naruto to stop him.. and he couldn't reach them.. he also knew that =]. So fail attempt at making Minato smarter then Hashirama and Tobirama. =D

 

[Prime Rib]

Wood clone is different from shadow clone

 

[Bogard]

So So I should now give Minato the Bijuu bomb also? . Since Naruto can produce a mini one in KCM.. Minato should be able to also..

The proof isn't about him making more clones, we already know he can. The proof is about him having the power to make more clones while keeping up the barrier. First Hashirama's limit was known to be 5 clones.. now its 13. When Minato proves otherwise lets debate.

you didn't see me saying Hashirama can do more clones =]. Cause i had nothing to back it up with. I guess extreme fanboyism blinds a person.

Plus , your the one who said Minato is on level with Hashirama and Tobirama in regards to breaking the bind, while showing no proof =].

Why are you mixing things? The binding or capacity to maintain a barrier has nothing to do with power level, but quantity of chakra. I was just emitting a hypothese that Minato could break the binding, but whether he could break it or not doesn't change his placement in the hokage ranking exactly like it changes nothing in Hashirama's or Tobirama's ranking even after what they did(Tobirama still failed though). If you want to talk about power level, that's a different subject and i think you already know what i think about it, so you can stay with all your Senju fanboyism, it will not change my opinion. Like i've said in the other thread, you seem excited in everything Senju do to the point that i would laugh if things don't go the way you want and that your favourite Senju get troll in the manga. Not saying it would happen though since anything can happen at this point

 

[xbreedsx]

One KCM Minato Clone will beat all Harashima and Tobirama clones. Its a complete copy of himself. While the others have no Sage mode markings. And Tobirama have yet to show any thing so his clones shouldn't be any stronger than himself.
Overall Harashima is still above Minato comparing their real self.
But since the Obito is the Juubi JIn, there won't be a barrier needed. So now all these hokage can show what they're really capable of.

 

[P3ĮÑ 🥈]

Plot no jutsu

Plot no jutsu is the answer to everything in naruto xD

 

[KingHashirama]

Why are you mixing things? The binding or capacity to maintain a barrier has nothing to do with power level, but quantity of chakra. I was just emitting a hypothese that Minato could break the binding, but whether he could break it or not doesn't change his placement in the hokage ranking exactly like it changes nothing in Hashirama's or Tobirama's ranking even after what they did(Tobirama still failed though). If you want to talk about power level, that's a different subject and i think you already know what i think about it, so you can stay with all your Senju fanboyism, it will not change my opinion. Like i've said in the other thread, you seem excited in everything Senju do to the point that i would laugh if things don't go the way you want and that your favourite Senju get troll in the manga. Not saying it would happen though since anything can happen at this point

THere is no mixing things. Breaking the bind has to do with the strength of your chakra, shown by Hashirama already.
Tobirama was still the best shinobi of konoha along is big bro =]. In hype Tobirama is still higher then Minato =]. And I see nothing that shows how Minato is superior to Tobirama as a whole, who is more well rounded.
Bro.. just so you know I have no care if Hashirama gets his ass kicked.. or w.e BUT I do care when people try to against what they have already shown. =]
Hell in Part 1 and until the Hashirama hype.. Hiruzen was the number 1 Hokage for me. . Not my fault the Senju are kinda elite compared to the others.

Well I'm out since this is redundant.

 

[S A G E]

Being able to do 2 shadow clones while maintaining the formation of the four red suns is impressive, considering how much chakra this hokage level barrier drains.
Tobirama is surprised that he only made two at this dire circumstances which infers that he was expecting more as he's probably done in the past.
Please don't be stupid and look what's beyond the surface, otherwise your just being ignorant.

 

[P3ĮÑ 🥈]

Spoiler

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Right here Tobirama admits he's in a sorry state, due to maintaining the barrier. ***********>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mangapanda

This ^^ explains a lot, I should've read the manga stream translation :|

 

[End of Days]

False actually. Others sent the clones to help out the alliance. In case Madara succeeded. Hashirama had already told Sasuke and Naruto to stop him.. and he couldn't reach them.. he also knew that =]. So fail attempt at making Minato smarter then Hashirama and Tobirama. =D

i dont really take you seriously and you arent in most people's good books and i can see why

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

1. Tobirama is the only shinobi on the battlefield without haxxed ass OP power ups.
2. The Kage are all creating KAGEbushins, which takes 50% of your power for EACH ONE created
3. The Kage are all maintaining a barrier jutsu that is said to be so chakra consuming that you need to have Kage level chakra reserves just to maintain
4. Minato isnt Normal Minato, He is KM Minato
5. Hashirama isnt Normal Hashirama, he is SM Hashirama
6. Sarutobi is the only other Kage without an insane power boost, and he was able to create ZERO Kage Bushin while trying to maintain the barrier, and he was known to have some of the highest chakra reserves of any shinobi



So, we are basically saying that all the Kage EXCEPT TOBIRAMA needed a power boost in order to create KageBushins while also maintaining the most powerful barrier known to the manga. And Tobirama created not one, but two of them. He has no Sage Mode, Kuubi Chakra, or other massive chakra source outside of his normal reserves.

Tobirama deserves MUCH more respect than what you all are giving him in this thread. SMH

 

[KingHashirama]

i dont really take you seriously and you arent in most people's good books and i can see why

. And you think I take most of the people on here serious? I mean your one of the people....